International Britain begins housing illegal migrants in 16th century castles

[Starman]

How likely are they to vote, though?

I can imagine certain charities would urge them to do it, but would they actually go to a voting booth and vote?

Even if they did, do they have the intellectual capacity to fill out the form?

Genuine questions btw.

I agree, but the more immediate problems are the ones we see right now. Crime is up 40% in the U.S., (according to the limited data we have. The number is actually much higher but the most crime ridden blue cities refuse to hand over their data), FEMA can't help American citizens with disaster relief because they spent everything they had putting illegal aliens in five-star hotels, public resources overtaxed, demographics of entire cities turned upside down, etc...

Their direct political power is limited because they can't legally vote, which is why you see the evil, satanic Left pushing so hard to legalize them. They view these people as nothing more than a vehicle to power in perpetuity.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Thoughts?

In b4 „conservatives are obsessed with migrants“

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

You do realize that a sovereign state can just do what it wants, right? Stopping illegal aliens from entering your border is not a grave violation of international law or even morals.

This is one of the most common left progressist talking points. We see it in Germany. „It‘s actually impossible to stop it“.

 

[650lb Sumo]

This is one of the most common left progressist talking points. We see it in Germany. „It‘s actually impossible to stop it“.

Try stopping mass brown immigration, lawful or not, and intervention from other countries will be coming your way in short order. Political meddling, a colour revolution, funding and arming terrorists, I don't doubt the US regime would nuke a European country if that was what was necessary to stop it from removing these people.

 

[Croo67]

Remove the incentives and they will stop coming.

 

[Cole train]

Try stopping it and intervention from other countries will be coming your way in short order. Political meddling, a colour revolution, funding and arming terrorists, I don't doubt the US regime would nuke a European country if that was what was necessary to stop it from removing these people.

Poland has been stopping it for like 4 years

Of course removal from inside is another matter

 

[650lb Sumo]

Poland has been stopping it for like 4 years

Eastern Europe is a bit behind the West in terms of mass immigration, but I don't think you're right here.

 

[Cole train]

Eastern Europe is a bit behind the West in terms of mass immigration, but I don't think you're right here.

Poland fighting off migrants at border is a fairly known thing since 2021 to my knowledge



They recently allowed use of deadly force due to border guard gettimg killed via spear through fence

 

[Streeter]

When a country goes left a country gets wrecked

 

[650lb Sumo]

Poland fighting off migrants at border is a fairly known thing since 2021 to my knowledge



They recently allowed use of deadly force due to border guard gettimg killed via spear through fence

Most immigration is lawful though. I made a thread about the border guard getting speared.

Edit: looking back through the posts I see the original one was referring to unlawful immigration, while I was referring to all. So that is an error by me, I'll edit my post above.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

What's your theory on the reason behind mass immigration policies? Not arguing either way just never actually heard your side even try to explain it.

It all comes down to labor. The cheap labor that capitalism inherently needs and the extra labor that rich countries need because of their rapidly aging populations.

I know you guys are convinced that immigration only exists in white countries but if you actually look this up, it's not true. It exists in Latin America, Asia, the Middle East. AND it's existed for 150+ years ago. It didn't start 20 years ago when The New World Order took place or whatever.

And it always follows the same general pattern: people in poor countries looking for better economic opportunities and richer countries having cheap labor opportunities.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

It all comes down to labor. The cheap labor that capitalism inherently needs and the extra labor that rich countries need because of their rapidly aging populations.

I know you guys are convinced that immigration only exists in white countries but if you actually look this up, it's not true. It exists in Latin America, Asia, the Middle East. AND it's existed for 150+ years ago. It didn't start 20 years ago when The New World Order took place or whatever.

And it always follows the same general pattern: people in poor countries looking for better economic opportunities and richer countries having cheap labor opportunities.

So the people who control the capital (the elites) are bringing in foreign workers to fill positions former held by the locals (replacement).

So literally the exact thing great replacement theorists are saying?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

So the people who control the capital (the elites) are bringing in foreign workers to fill positions former held by the locals (replacement).

So literally the exact thing great replacement theorists are saying?

I'm sure you're far more familiar with Great Replacement doctrine than I am but I think the biggest part of their thesis is: "mass migration was invented in 1970 and foreigners are brought in in order to destroy Western Civilization/white people and in order to gain more power."

Foreigners being brought in to do cheap labor was "invented" in the 1800s. Oh, and it was largely white people doing the migrating:

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

I'm sure you're far more familiar with Great Replacement doctrine than I am but I think the biggest part of their thesis is: "mass migration was invented in 1970 and foreigners are brought in in order to destroy Western Civilization/white people and in order to gain more power."

Foreigners being brought in to do cheap labor was "invented" in the 1800s. Oh, and it was largely white people doing the migrating:

Nice pivot but we already got to the bottom of this.

I already agree with you. The elites want to replace the people who currently live in the west with cheap foreign workers.

The racial aspect of it is irrelevant.

 

[Starman]

Nice pivot but we already got to the bottom of this.

I already agree with you. The elites want to replace the people who currently live in the west with cheap foreign workers.

The racial aspect of it is irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant because race is a motivating factor. Why doesn't Israel accept huge numbers of African or Arab refugees? Why doesn't China, Japan, or South Korea? Why doesn't Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, or Jordan? Why don't they accept them, and why are they not shamed and called racists because they refuse?

Israel (rightly) wants Israel to remain a Jewish state. Ditto for every single one of those brown or black-majority countries I mentioned. The only time the accusations of racism, nationalism, xenophobia, bigotry, or White supremacy are used is when someone in a White majority country dares speak out against having their communities destroyed by illegal alien invaders. Then they're literal Nazis who need to be canceled, deplatformed, and silenced.

Cheap labor is a red herring, because a huge chunk of these illegal aliens don't work. They just sponge off the system. The reason they're being imported into the West has zero to do with evil greedy capitalists looking to exploit poor, dumb brown people.

 

[Croo67]

It all comes down to labor. The cheap labor that capitalism inherently needs and the extra labor that rich countries need because of their rapidly aging populations.

I know you guys are convinced that immigration only exists in white countries but if you actually look this up, it's not true. It exists in Latin America, Asia, the Middle East. AND it's existed for 150+ years ago. It didn't start 20 years ago when The New World Order took place or whatever.

And it always follows the same general pattern: people in poor countries looking for better economic opportunities and richer countries having cheap labor opportunities.

Very few seem to be working, though.

You never see them on building sites or in supermarkets.

Deliveroo etc, yes. But that’s not a necessity.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Very few seem to be working, though.

You never see them on building sites or in supermarkets.

Deliveroo etc, yes. But that’s not a necessity.

I noticed that when I lived in Calgary. Monday-Thursday you never see any Eritrean immigrants, then all of a sudden on Friday night, they're everywhere.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Nice pivot but we already got to the bottom of this.

I already agree with you. The elites want to replace the people who currently live in the west with cheap foreign workers.

The racial aspect of it is irrelevant.

No pivot. We're talking immigration and I brought up historical immigration facts.

But yeah, we mostly agree. The racial aspect is indeed irrelevant because it's an economic issue. But it's not exactly that "the elites want to replace domestic workers," it's more like "the economic system constantly looks for cheaper labor and this is provided by immigrants."

So "the elites" aren't the problem because that suggests that if we get other elites that think differently, it'll change. It's the economic system that's causing this. Capitalism requires this constant seeking of cheap labor in order to increase profits. The Soviet Union was the second industrial superpower in the world for decades without foreign workers. Cuba never brought in migrant workers when it was one of the most developed Latin American countries.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I noticed that when I lived in Calgary. Monday-Thursday you never see any Eritrean immigrants, then all of a sudden on Friday night, they're everywhere.

So you want them working Mon-Thur and into Friday night? Damn, even slaves got some time off to relax.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

So you want them working Mon-Thur and into Friday night? Damn, even slaves got some time off to relax.

I'd like the working at least one day a week ideally.