Bow Down To The NFL GOAT

[MusterX]

You're right, 208 is much more than 456

Holy fuck, really?

Jerry Rice has 22,895 yards receiving, a record that will probably never be broken. #2 all time is Terrell Owens with a distant 15,934. The 2nd most of all time isn't even close. Rice didn't just beat his peers he destroyed his peers.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Holy fuck, really?

Jerry Rice has 22,895 yards receiving, a record that will probably never be broken. #2 all time is Terrell Owens with a distant 15,934. The 2nd most of all time isn't even close. Rice didn't just beat his peers he destroyed his peers.

lol


I know, let's count who's won more Super Bowls and who has more SB MVP's next.

 

[MusterX]

So why cite it as evidence of his GOATness?

My only argument with Montana is that he is just as talented if not more so than Brady when it comes to winning the big game. He's as clutch as they come. Brady has 5 rings so its hard to argue against but Montana never lost a SB and he threw 0 interceptions in his 4 bowl wins. If we are on the playground picking teams and you take Brady and I take Montana, I'm totally alright with that head to head match up.

 

[MusterX]

lol


I know, let's count who's won more Super Bowls and who has more SB MVP's next.

So your arguments rest on what exactly? You don't make any. Jerry Rice was next level when he played, he is still next level compared to the athletes playing now. He wrecked his peers by HUGE amounts.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

My only argument with Montana is that he is just as talented if not more so than Brady when it comes to winning the big game. He's as clutch as they come. Brady has 5 rings so its hard to argue against but Montana never lost a SB and he threw 0 interceptions in his 4 bowl wins. If we are on the playground picking teams and you take Brady and I take Montana, I'm totally alright with that head to head match up.

Hey Muster bud, I have a question for you: who was more important to the 49ers in those days, Montana, or Rice?

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

So your arguments rest on what exactly? You don't make any. Jerry Rice was next level when he played, he is still next level compared to the athletes playing now. He wrecked his peers by HUGE amounts.

Brady and Montana play/played the most important position in sports: QB


Rice played a position that guys like Brady make a revolving door of players look like Jerry Rice every year.


Montana got rings and gets rings without Rice. Brady gets rings without any HoFers around him at all.


Rice has jack shit aside from meaningless accumulated numbers without a great QB deciding he gets that ball.


I'm not arguing anything here, I don't need to.

 

[MusterX]

Hey Muster bud, I have a question for you: who was more important to the 49ers in those days, Montana, or Rice?

They only played together for 7 seasons but Montana/Rice is the greatest QB/Receiver duo of all time. I think it can be argued that Brady is better than Montana, even if I don't think so, but there is no comparable athlete to Jerry Rice. He is in a class of his own which is why ESPN ranked him as the #1 football player of all time.

The Hall of Famer owns the record for most receptions and touchdown catches in NFL history, but it is his incredible mark of 22,895 career receiving yards that topped this list.
Consider that Terrell Owens, second on the all-time receiving list, finished his career with 15,934 yards and you'll have no problem understanding why Rice's record seems so out of reach.

The active leader is longtime Indianapolis Colts wideout Reggie Wayne with 14,343 yards, but he is 36 years old and nearing the end of his career. The player with the most yards who is still in his prime is Detroit Lions star Calvin Johnson. Still, Johnson, at 29 years old and 10,405 career yards, is nowhere near the record.

That's because in 20 NFL seasons, Rice averaged 1,090 receiving yards. How that's for production and longevity?


"Nobody in the first 95 seasons of the NFL is even close to Rice in this category," Harrison wrote. "And no one will touch him in the next 95. He is the Babe Ruth of the sport, plain and simple."

 

[MusterX]

Brady and Montana play/played the most important position in sports: QB


Rice played a position that guys like Brady make a revolving door of players look like Jerry Rice every year.


Montana got rings and gets rings without Rice. Brady gets rings without any HoFers around him at all.


Rice has jack shit aside from meaningless accumulated numbers without a great QB deciding he gets that ball.


I'm not arguing anything here, I don't need to.

To the red text above, that tells me you are not plugged in to the truth. Nobody.....nobody......has ever looked like Jerry Mother Fucking Rice.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Brady is best all-time QB and that's fine with me. Fuck Joe Montana. Lot's of other positions in the league though and defense wins championships.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

They only played together for 7 seasons but Montana/Rice is the greatest QB/Receiver duo of all time. I think it can be argued that Brady is better than Montana, even if I don't think so, but there is no comparable athlete to Jerry Rice. He is in a class of his own which is why ESPN ranked him as the #1 football player of all time.

The Hall of Famer owns the record for most receptions and touchdown catches in NFL history, but it is his incredible mark of 22,895 career receiving yards that topped this list.
Consider that Terrell Owens, second on the all-time receiving list, finished his career with 15,934 yards and you'll have no problem understanding why Rice's record seems so out of reach.

The active leader is longtime Indianapolis Colts wideout Reggie Wayne with 14,343 yards, but he is 36 years old and nearing the end of his career. The player with the most yards who is still in his prime is Detroit Lions star Calvin Johnson. Still, Johnson, at 29 years old and 10,405 career yards, is nowhere near the record.

That's because in 20 NFL seasons, Rice averaged 1,090 receiving yards. How that's for production and longevity?


"Nobody in the first 95 seasons of the NFL is even close to Rice in this category," Harrison wrote. "And no one will touch him in the next 95. He is the Babe Ruth of the sport, plain and simple."

That's nice. He does none of this without the most important position in football deciding to give him the ball. No amount of stats, ESPN commentary or quotes from other people you can dig up change that.


Brady>>>>>Rice


I'm beside myself that someone is arguing that a WR is above the greatest QB of all time. This is hilarious.

To the red text above, that tells me you are not plugged in to the truth. Nobody.....nobody......has ever looked like Jerry Mother Fucking Rice.

You're missing the point of the exercise here. Point being, WR is not as important a position as you seem to think it is. Ask Calvin Johnson, ask T.O., ask Randy, hell, ask Julio Jones lol

 

[RedCansLoom16]

My only argument with Montana is that he is just as talented if not more so than Brady when it comes to winning the big game. He's as clutch as they come. Brady has 5 rings so its hard to argue against but Montana never lost a SB and he threw 0 interceptions in his 4 bowl wins. If we are on the playground picking teams and you take Brady and I take Montana, I'm totally alright with that head to head match up.

Never losing a Superbowl is a cool little thing, but what it really means is he lost in lesser games. Like what if he went to the SB in 85, 86 and 87 and lost all 3 instead of being 1 & done in those years? I mean 3 SB losses in a row would be bad, but its a hundred times better then losing in the first playoff game as far as legacies go.

 

[bmasters1993]

My only argument with Montana is that he is just as talented if not more so than Brady when it comes to winning the big game. He's as clutch as they come. Brady has 5 rings so its hard to argue against but Montana never lost a SB and he threw 0 interceptions in his 4 bowl wins. If we are on the playground picking teams and you take Brady and I take Montana, I'm totally alright with that head to head match up.

Define "big game". Montana is 12-7 in other playoff games, Brady is 20-7.

 

[MusterX]

Define "big game". Montana is 12-7 in other playoff games, Brady is 20-7.

I've said multiple times, I don't really have a problem with Brady being considered GOAT QB, personally I think Montana was just as good but whatever. Brady is a force of nature.

 

[PEB]

I concede that Brady is a freak of nature. I believe Montana was just as clutch as Brady but with less physical tools. Overall though, I can't deny Brady has this in his pocket.

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Tom not really a freak of nature he is not really that mobile. What makes Tom great is how he sees the field. When he has 5 healthy receivers he works the field better then anyone.

It's hard for a team to prepare for who he will use or swap out each down. There was a season where the Pat's played poorly and everyone was like see they do cheat.

The reality 3 receivers where injured he only had two healthy receivers and teams were double teaming West Walker every play.

Patriots with healthy receivers are a nightmare for everyone. This is what works for Pats. Tom almost never makes high risk plays but using the whole field works great for him

 

[PEB]

 

[Loiseau]

Lol didn't know he had to play corner too

This is rich though coming from a professional Cutler apologist

Jay Cutler isn't half the QB Rodgers is, but I know one thing, he doesn't bury his teammates in the media like he's LeBron James.

Rodgers is an egomaniac and you can see players quit on him. Every time somebody leaves they do nothing but talk about how much of a D bag he is.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Well, Marino was another rare talent. He got those numbers during a 14 game season, Brady has 16 game seasons. So yea Brady is almost 40 years old and has played 16 seasons? He could break all the numbers but we have to take into account how many games it takes him to do it too. As I said before though, I don't deny Brady's legendary status, he absolutely is. The guy is a freaking winning machine.

Sorry, but this is factually incorrect. Marino always had 16-game seasons, same as Brady. The NFL switched to 16-game seasons in 1978. Marino's rookie year was 1983. It might also be worth noting that Marino won the starting role in week 6 of his rookie season, whereas Brady had to wait until week 3 of his second season. As of today, Marino and Brady have the same number of seasons (17), but Marino has slightly more games played (242 to 237) and games started (240 to 235) than Brady.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

That's a great video btw. Insane when they talk about Montana doing 400 pound squats and benching 315. I have a hard time believing them but they seemed to be serious.

They were actually talking about John Elway at that point, but I can see where the confusion comes from. Romo played with and against so many great quarterbacks. Basically he started out with Montana, then Young, then eventually Elway (he also played with Rich Gannon after that). Elway was/is a big guy, so you can understand how he could lift so much. Elway was also very athletic, he was a dual threat QB like Young.

 

[PEB]

Tom Brady made an atheist believe in god or at least Jesus.

 

[PEB]