Bouncers acting like hard-asses

[Sentient]

Bingo. The bouncers' behavior isn't really my preoccupation when I go out. This was on the news a few nights ago. This guy sure wasn't intimidated. He might be an asshole, but he's legit. Johnny's is one of the more successful bars in Redding, though they don't tend to hire the most physically impressive bouncers:
Assault in Redding leaves two men unconscious and one in critical condition
Still waiting on his mugshot.

Double bingo. This goes especially for all the inebriated Napoleons who incessantly talk about how they could beat your ass from the curb because they know your job is to maintain order in the bar, and only to engage when attacked, or if someone resists being thrown out. That gets super irritating.

Sounds like someone has worked as a bouncer, or has buddies that are bouncers. You can be an apologist all day long MM, but the fact remains, many bouncers are egotistical cavemen at best. Sure, there are professionals out there that do the job well, but its questionable as to whether these guys are in the majority. The bad ones are so bad and the consequences of this often so dire that to be flippant about the bad eggs is socially irresponsible. I just typed 'bouncer kills customer' into google. Over 5 million responses.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Just about all the bouncers I have seen in action act just like any security guard. When there is a situation, they just act as cogs, a go between, delaying the inevitable, stalling everyone. While their teammate calls for the police, goes outside and waits for them, then escorts them inside and let them handle everything.

 

[Maletherin]

do you even lift bro

Thread winner! :icon_lol:

 

[chaosclown17]

Sounds like someone has worked as a bouncer, or has buddies that are bouncers. You can be an apologist all day long MM, but the fact remains, many bouncers are egotistical cavemen at best. Sure, there are professionals out there that do the job well, but its questionable as to whether these guys are in the majority. The bad ones are so bad and the consequences of this often so dire that to be flippant about the bad eggs is socially irresponsible. I just typed 'bouncer kills customer' into google. Over 5 million responses.

Typing in something in a search engine, then using the number of responses as an indicator of occurrence, is wildly inaccurate.

Many of them would be duplicates of one story or another.

Many of them would be unrelated. Just of the words you used (such as bouncer or kills) would be used in a different context. Completely unrelated to your initial question.

Others would be only loosely related. Bouncer nearly kills customer - bouncer kills customer in a rap battle - bouncer kills customer in fight (when really he only knocked him out or soundly defeated him) - etc.

I just typed in controllable asshole, got about 3,500,000 results. None of them (on the first page) related to a controllable ass hole. In fact the first result was an Urban Dictionary entry titled Control Freak.

I don't agree or disagree with your opinion. I haven't had enough interaction with bouncers to know. I just wanted to say that number of results means absolutely nothing.

 

[Sentient]

Typing in something in a search engine, then using the number of responses as an indicator or concurrence, is wildly inaccurate.

No shit Sherlock. Not trying to say there have been over 5 million instances of bouncers killing customers. But it does illustrate that yes indeed, it is a phenomenon that occurs, and in countries all over the world. I watched a bouncer brutalize someone a third of his own body weight... for dropping a drink. The victim ended up with severe brain damage and hasn't been able to speak since. He was 19 years old. There have been worse cases in the hometown that I grew up in, and a myriad of even worse cases in the city I live in now, including - yes - deaths... er, murders.

While I've never been overtly 'bashed' by a bouncer, I have been violently ejected by one... for talking to a girl he must have liked. Lucky for me I got payback though. Doesn't pay to victimize someone who is good friends with owner of the establishment. Fucktard got fired the very next day, along with the wanker who recommended him for the position.

 

[Naramie]

One time I was a bar/nightclub there was a large group that had bought table service and a few bottles. I think it was someone's birthday, they had cake and shit. The birthday boy drank too much and fell asleep so the bouncers came and told them that they were kicking him out. The friends pleaded with them and said they would be leaving with him soon, bouncers weren't having it and just carried the drunk guy towards the exit. Then they just heaved him onto the sidewalk. He landed like face first and there was blood all over the sidewalk. I was like WTF?!?! This guy just spent like $2-3K at your establishment and you just throw them out like trash?

 

[mixmastermo]

There is a very good chance that the club did, in fact, own the sidewalk.

Nope. Public sidewalk on a public street in Manhattan. The bank and grocery stores on the street shared the same sidewalk, the club didn't own shit.

 

[Diamond Jim]

I once got dropped by a short stocky bouncer who had a long ass pony tail.

 

[NJKid45]

There's definitely a serious wanna-be hardguy element going on with bouncers.

Some are cool, but for the most part you're dealing with people too dimwitted to get a mall security gig somewhere.

 

[windkick]

Seems like a preemptive measure to me. Someone like Jose Aldo would be a shit bouncer because everybody would have to find out how to behave themselves the hard way. The bigger and meaner looking the guy, the better.

Would suck ass if you fucked up in a club Aldo was working.

 

[Merlotte's]

They hesitate to kick out a client that is spending money. I'm a damn fool while drunk and as long as the drinks were being ordered I'd usually be left alone.

So bouncers don't like poor people, just like the rest of us.

 

[Madmick]

Sounds like someone has worked as a bouncer, or has buddies that are bouncers. You can be an apologist all day long MM, but the fact remains, many bouncers are egotistical cavemen at best. Sure, there are professionals out there that do the job well, but its questionable as to whether these guys are in the majority. The bad ones are so bad and the consequences of this often so dire that to be flippant about the bad eggs is socially irresponsible. I just typed 'bouncer kills customer' into google. Over 5 million responses.

Yes, I was a bouncer, and I have openly talked about that many times. I have nothing to hide. I know what it's like being a bouncer, and bouncers aren't the problem.

Drunk ass Napoleonic dickwads who:

• harass (usually sexually harass) women
• harass guys who are better at getting the women they want
• harass and threaten bartenders for perceived slights (like not serving them on their "turn", not pouring enough booze, overcharging, trying to get with "their" women, or simply giving them "attitude")
• harass and threaten DJs for not playing their song
• harass bouncers for enforcing the bar rules (like...don't take your drink outside, dipshit; don't smoke inside, dipshit; don't stand on the tables, dipshit; don't go behind the bar, dipshit; don't ask to come in if you can't fucking walk with greater coordination than an infant with an ear infection, dipshit)
• or simply harass everybody because they're inebriated and retarded

...those people are the problem. Not bouncers.

Stop pretending like this has anything other to do than with the fact that your drunk ass got out of line at some point in your life, and you got put in your place, and rather than putting your big boy pants on when you sobered up you stayed bitter.

Being a bouncer sucks balls. Most guys who do it just do it as a night job because it pays $10/hr for standing around, and they're tired from their day job. They'd much rather be bartending. They don't want confrontations. They don't want incidents. They just want to collect an easy paycheck and go home. But douchebags make sure some nights it isn't easy. I have zero sympathy for douchebags.

 

[Sentient]

Yes, I was a bouncer, and I have openly talked about that many times. I have nothing to hide. I know what it's like being a bouncer, and bouncers aren't the problem.

Drunk ass Napoleonic dickwads who:

• harass (usually sexually harass) women
• harass guys who are better at getting the women they want
• harass and threaten bartenders for perceived slights (like not serving them on their "turn", not pouring enough booze, overcharging, trying to get with "their" women, or simply giving them "attitude")
• harass and threaten DJs for not playing their song
• harass bouncers for enforcing the bar rules (like...don't take your drink outside, dipshit; don't smoke inside, dipshit; don't stand on the tables, dipshit; don't go behind the bar, dipshit; don't ask to come in if you can't fucking walk with greater coordination than an infant with an ear infection, dipshit)
• or simply harass everybody because they're inebriated and retarded

...those people are the problem. Not bouncers.

Stop pretending like this has anything other to do than with the fact that your drunk ass got out of line at some point in your life, and you got put in your place, and rather than putting your big boy pants on when you sobered up you stayed bitter.

Being a bouncer sucks balls. Most guys who do it just do it as a night job because it pays $10/hr for standing around, and they're tired from their day job. They'd much rather be bartending. They don't want confrontations. They don't want incidents. They just want to collect an easy paycheck and go home. But douchebags make sure some nights it isn't easy. I have zero sympathy for douchebags.

Haha, called it (and no, I haven't seen you mention it before... I'm kind of new here, and don't obsess over the commentary of anyone, not even mods). And I'm not pretending about anything. You know what they say about assumption, right?

But yes, I can empathize to some degree. It must suck being a bouncer because yes, you'd have to deal with a lot of drunken tards. A couple of mates of mine were bouncers and they use to relay some stories to me, so I can catch your drift. They weren't of the bad variety. Heck, they didn't even lift bro. Neither of them could fight worth a damn either... they were more the calming variety of bouncers, putting fires out rather than throwing fuel on them.

But don't for a minute try and sell us on the fact that all bouncers are golden because they are not. Thats a fact. Refer to my account of the guy who got brain damaged for life. As for my own personal experience, well, yeah, I was a little drunk... like anyone in a club. But not causing trouble. Not even slurring words or walking in zig-zag lines. Just minding my own biz and chatting up a chick, who the bouncer clearly had eyes for (this was confirmed for me later). As I said, that guy got sacked. He was in the wrong, pure and simple. Apologize for him all you like but you're wrong if you do. Hell, you don't even know the guy. Relax man, sheesh!

What is with people who feel a need to defend everyone who has shared the same career as themselves? Been noticing that a lot around here lately. I work in web design and sales (2 separate jobs) and at least I can admit there are schmucks aplenty in both fields. Why can't you?

By the way, I emphasized your phrase Napoleonic for a reason. I guess you've had to deal with your fair share of people who fit that description, but the attitude suggests that maybe you just look down on people smaller than you (your wording in your sig suggests the same by the way), and this seems typical of the 'buff' 'alpha' bouncers that are being called out in this thread.

 

[Madmick]

Haha, called it (and no, I haven't seen you mention it before... I'm kind of new here, and don't obsess over the commentary of anyone, not even mods).

Yep.

As for my own personal experience, well, yeah, I was a little drunk... like anyone in a club. But not causing trouble. Not even slurring words or walking in zig-zag lines. Just minding my own biz and chatting up a chick, who the bouncer clearly had eyes for (this was confirmed for me later). As I said, that guy got sacked. He was in the wrong, pure and simple. Apologize for him all you like but you're wrong if you do. Hell, you don't even know the guy. Relax man, sheesh!

Looks like I called it, too.

 

[Sentient]

No you didn't. Just because you're a moderator doesn't automatically make you right. A little drunk is different from very drunk, or 'pissed' as we'd call it here in Aus. If it was a club crime to get a little drunk, then why the hell do clubs serve drinks?

As I said, not slurring words, and no not harassing anyone. Just talking to a chick at the bar. By the way, she left the venue immediately when I was booted out and took me back to her place. Maybe she felt sorry for me. Sympathy fucks are awesome, no? Either way, I figure she wasn't feeling terribly harassed. And that was the first sliver of payback that was coming for said bouncer.

And how do you justify the other account I mentioned? A guy accidently drops a drink. gets smashed to the face, lands on his head, gets brain damage. Justice in your world? Or was he just a douche that you'd have zero sympathy for? Bouncer went to jail by the way, so even if you do try and justify it, his lawyers could not.

 

[Cherdawg]

Theres good and bad in every occupation you cant generalise.
Ive seen good bouncers and bad.

Respect the gentlemen when you walk in and 90 percent of the time
they will respect you right back.
Dont be a mental midget or a big douchebag wherever you
are and you should be cool.

 

[Sentient]

Theres good and bad in every occupation you cant generalise.
Ive seen good bouncers and bad.

Respect the gentlemen when you walk in and 90 percent of the time
they will respect you right back.
Dont be a mental midget or a big douchebag wherever you
are and you should be cool.

Yup, that's what I'm saying and any reasonable person would agree

 

[Camus123]

I wouldn't even go to popular busy bars or clubs if there weren't bouncers.

 

[Sentient]

I wouldn't even go to popular busy bars or clubs if there weren't bouncers.

I've grown out of the club scene, but I feel the same way. Only ever had one bad experience (I rarely get/got drunk enough to fuck up) but have observed some scary shit go down as mentioned. I've seen the flip side to that to, ie: bouncers being good at their jobs, which is how it should be 100% of the time. Unfortunate that the fucktard bouncers have tainted the rep of the industry.

 

[Camus123]

I've grown out of the club scene, but I feel the same way. Only ever had one bad experience (I rarely get/got drunk enough to fuck up) but have observed some scary shit go down as mentioned. I've seen the flip side to that to, ie: bouncers being good at their jobs, which is how it should be 100% of the time. Unfortunate that the fucktard bouncers have tainted the rep of the industry.

They haven't tainted it for me. I've only had one negative experience with a bouncer and it wasn't even that bad. I was saying that without bouncers I wouldn't go to busy drinking establishments because there are always a few jackass patrons who try their best to ruin my night and it is the bouncers who tell them to leave.

Being sober around drunk people sucks, especially when it is your job to deal with those drunk people.