Law Birthright Citizenship fight begins with Trump EO on Day 1

[Jacket time]

If we have Birthright citizenship, why the need to pass the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924?

 

[Jacket time]

 

[HockeyBjj]

The EO is guaranteed to reach the Supreme Court

Why is it guaranteed to reach the supreme court? A lower court knocking it down as clearly unconstitutional and no higher court taking it up because there doesn't seem to be an argument in favor of the EO would end it before the SC right?

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Why is it guaranteed to reach the supreme court? A lower court knocking it down as clearly unconstitutional and no higher court taking it up because there doesn't seem to be an argument in favor of the EO would end it before the SC right?

I think given the popularity the discussion on immigration has been lately, I think this is the new or next Roe vs. Wade issue to divide the country.

 

[avenue94]

If we have Birthright citizenship, why the need to pass the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924?

Because native Americans are effectively members of foreign nations in the eyes of the constitution. Something orignalists always forgot for some reason.

 

[Natural Order]

How many are from "vacationers"? Is there an actual # on them?

That's just your country getting played.

 

[Jacket time]

Because native Americans are effectively members of foreign nations in the eyes of the constitution. Something orignalists always forgot for some reason.

What other country has Birthright citizenship?

 

[avenue94]

What other country has Birthright citizenship?

You can just admit you don't understand the Constitution instead of flailing around.

 

[avenue94]

How many are from "vacationers"? Is there an actual # on them?

That's just your country getting played.

That's how most Americans gained citizenship through history. Land in America, have kids, be Americans.

 

[Jacket time]

You can just admit you don't understand the Constitution instead of flailing around.

A child born in this country has no allegiance to the US just like their parents.

 

[Natural Order]

That's how most Americans gained citizenship through history. Land in America, have kids, be Americans.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[avenue94]

A child born in this country has no allegiance to the US just like their parents

Good thing we have public schools for socializing children then. Cuz everyone knows fetuses magically know what country to be loyal to.

 

[avenue94]

Sorry to hear that.

Ya, it really sucks being only the most powerful and prosperous country the world has seen. Really a bummer.

 

[Lead]

Why is it guaranteed to reach the supreme court? A lower court knocking it down as clearly unconstitutional and no higher court taking it up because there doesn't seem to be an argument in favor of the EO would end it before the SC right?

can’t you appeal each level? They might just shoot down the case but that would still be some announcement they won’t hear the case on the last appeal.

Edit: looks like normally it would just die. I assume with presidents, they generally take it up due to the significance at the lower levels but that would be something if they just stopped it early.

 

[Jacket time]

The children of illegal aliens born in the United States are citizens of their parent's home country. The parents were never permanent legal residents. The parents are under jurisdiction of their home country

 

[Natural Order]

Ya, it really sucks being only the most powerful and prosperous country the world has seen. Really a bummer.

You must be new to history. All the best.

 

[avenue94]

You must be new to history. All the best.

I'm speaking absolutely, not relatively. If you wanna argue that the Roman empire was more powerful during its time, knock yourself put.

 

[Natural Order]

I'm speaking absolutely, not relatively. If you wanna argue that the Roman empire was more powerful during its time, knock yourself put.

No I was more concerned with the idea that you thought it would last.

 

[avenue94]

No I was more concerned with the idea that you thought it would last.

They never do. Is what it is.

 

[irish_thug]

I recommend going the Starship Troopers route with citizenship.