Better grappler: Khabib or Khamzat?

[TerraRayzing]

Oh boy, this will get nasty lmao but now that we've seen Khamzat against top level competition, and with him being able to ragdoll Usman and Whittaker, do you think he has better grappling than Khabib?
Both are some of the best grapplers in UFC history. I feel Khamzat is more dangerous while Khabib can sustain it longer.
Who do you think is the better grappler overall?

 

[Luthien]

I think you nailed it. Khamzat is much more dangerous over a shorter amount of time before his cardio goes out. Khabib never stops being dangerous, but a bit less so.

 

[Luthien]

Machine Gun Khabib o.o
Nuclear Bomb Khamzat?

 

[Megatronlee]

Khamzat. He’s beating up better guys

 

[Red Lantern]

Problem with Khabib is he didn't fight any other high level wrestler. Khamzat did with Usman. But Khabib also wouldn't be scared going to ground with a high level bjj fighter like how Khamzat didn't want to get to the ground with Burns.

Hard to say really who is better.

 

[TerraRayzing]

I think you nailed it. Khamzat is much more dangerous over a shorter amount of time before his cardio goes out. Khabib never stops being dangerous, but a bit less so.

It's an interesting contrast, tbh. Khamzat exerts a lot into his first takedown and doesn't care about pacing himself and you have to wonder; if he doesn't exert as much and paced himself, would his ground game be as dangerous? Opposite to wonder for Khabib. Would he be as dangerous as Khamzat early if he put just as much effort?
Two sides of the same coin imo and its fascinating.

 

[TerraRayzing]

Problem with Khabib is he didn't fight any other high level wrestler. Khamzat did with Usman. But Khabib also wouldn't be scared going to ground with a high level bjj fighter like how Khamzat didn't want to get to the ground with Burns.

Hard to say really who is better.

Imo, I feel Dustin's ground game is underrated. He was able to reverse and get up against Islam, submitted Chandler and has only been submitted by three of the absolute best grapplers in history. The fact that he couldn't keep Khabib off of him says a lot.
But I agree. Ragdolling Usman might just be the bigger feat.

 

[Dionysian]

Khabib vs Dustin and Justin probably the best/most complete MMA grappling I've ever seen in my lifetime.

But man Khamzat's grappling is a pleasure to watch as well. I think as soon as he got the TDs on Kamaru and Robert I actually yelled "WOW!" out loud. Those shots were insane.

 

[FriskyRandy]

Imo, I feel Dustin's ground game is underrated. He was able to reverse and get up against Islam, submitted Chandler and has only been submitted by three of the absolute best grapplers in history. The fact that he couldn't keep Khabib off of him says a lot.
But I agree. Ragdolling Usman might just be the bigger feat.

Korean zombie is one of the best grapplers in history now eh.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Oh boy, this will get nasty lmao but now that we've seen Khamzat against top level competition, and with him being able to ragdoll Usman and Whittaker, do you think he has better grappling than Khabib?
Both are some of the best grapplers in UFC history. I feel Khamzat is more dangerous while Khabib can sustain it longer.
Who do you think is the better grappler overall?

Pure wrestler I think Khamzat is a wizard. I think Khabib has an unbeatable game for mma though

 

[TerrorTimmy]

Khabib cut through Gaethje's guard like nothing. Literally like a hot knife through butter. There's very few performances like that in UFC history as far as wrestling/grappling goes.

Khamzat is a beast as well. He's so quick and strong and has power in his strikes as well as his grappling. But I think in terms of pure skill, Khabib has the edge

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Khamzat rag dolling Usman was more impressive than anything Khabib ever did. I remember being baffled that so many people were hyping Khabib for setting the UFC record for number of takedowns landed against Abel Trujillio... you mean he took a guy down 21 times in a 15 minute fight and couldn't keep him there??

Khabib's record is rightfully being criticized now that his delusional fan base has waned. The ridiculous Conor hype transferred to Khabib but really, is blanketing a one dimensional-striker with bad cardio some amazing feat? Khabib missed out on many top guys from 2 different eras because he was either sitting out injured or retired early. He obviously had the potential to do bigger things but coming back from a 2 year layoff to fight Darrell Horcher and Michael Johnson when you're already ranked top 5 doesn't exactly scream "best of all time".

Khamzat has a lot to prove still but his 1 win over a proven wrestler > Khabib who was on a "Strikers Only" diet to pad his resume for his entire brief run at the top

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Khabib cut through Gaethje's guard like nothing. Literally like a hot knife through butter. There's very few performances like that in UFC history as far as wrestling/grappling goes.

Khamzat is a beast as well. He's so quick and strong and has power in his strikes as well as his grappling. But I think in terms of pure skill, Khabib has the edge

Yes and Gaethje is widely known to have an amazing guard

Demetrius Johnson got Ray Borg in an armbar in mid air. It's amazing how good you can look when your opponent is unskilled.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Khabib is more technical and skilled. Khamzat is more aggressive, athletic, and explosive. After the first round Khamzat becomes less dangerous but he's still a crazy good grappler

 

[TerraRayzing]

Khamzat rag dolling Usman was more impressive than anything Khabib ever did. I remember being baffled that so many people were hyping Khabib for setting the UFC record for number of takedowns landed against Abel Trujillio... you mean he took a guy down 21 times in a 15 minute fight and couldn't keep him there??

Khabib's record is rightfully being criticized now that his delusional fan base has waned. The ridiculous Conor hype transferred to Khabib but really, is blanketing a one dimensional-striker with bad cardio some amazing feat? Khabib missed out on many top guys from 2 different eras because he was either sitting out injured or retired early. He obviously had the potential to do bigger things but coming back from a 2 year layoff to fight Darrell Horcher and Michael Johnson when you're already ranked top 5 doesn't exactly scream "best of all time".

Khamzat has a lot to prove still but his 1 win over a proven wrestler > Khabib who was on a "Strikers Only" diet to pad his resume for his entire brief run at the top

Who do you think is a better overall MMA grappler. Usman or Prime RDA?

 

[ThePimblettEra]

Who is the most elite grappler each guy has beaten?

We could use that to form our comparison.

 

[wisdom blows]

Khamzat is a better wrestler, Khabib prob has better submissions.

 

[wisdom blows]

Problem with Khabib is he didn't fight any other high level wrestler. Khamzat did with Usman. But Khabib also wouldn't be scared going to ground with a high level bjj fighter like how Khamzat didn't want to get to the ground with Burns.

Hard to say really who is better.

Khabib never fought anyone as good on the mat as Burns, let alone in his 9th fight. Khabib was still in the minors then. Khamzat strength of opposition is far superior given experience.

 

[HHJ]

They are both great but have different approaches based on their physical attributes.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Oh boy, this will get nasty lmao but now that we've seen Khamzat against top level competition, and with him being able to ragdoll Usman and Whittaker, do you think he has better grappling than Khabib?
Both are some of the best grapplers in UFC history. I feel Khamzat is more dangerous while Khabib can sustain it longer.
Who do you think is the better grappler overall?

Back when Khabib was active, Khamzat himself said Khabib was the best grappler in the UFC.

What else needs to be said?

Yes, Khamzat is more dynamic, explosive, and reckless — but TECHNIQUE-wise, and SUSTAINED-ENERGY-wise, no one is a better MMA grappler than Khabib.

No one.