Batman vs. Daredevil - Who wins?

[Mike]

The only real advantage Shiva has is that she fights to kill, while Batman only fights to win. Batman also besmirched Cain. Dragon held back against Shiva because he loved her; when he went full out, he beat her fairly easily.

No, she's also simply a better fighter than he is. Batman has said it, she has said it, other high level fighters have said it, and she's proven it by whupping his ass on more than one occasion.


Batman has beaten Cain down and they have foguht to a draw before.


Dragons beaten her before, but Dragon is also better than batman so that doesn't tell us much.

 

[Mike]

Yeah, but not against Daredevil. Daredevil jobs more than he wins. Especially if pussy on the table. Against pussy, monica Daredevil is Reverse Crying Freeman.

Wat? Daredevil is on a James bond, Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark level of getting pussy. Daredevils game is so strong those hoes keep coming back trying to get back with him too, and he's all sorry Black Widow I've moved on to smashing other chicks now. Matt is a heartbreaker.


Chances are they start fighting and end up at a bar picking up chicks tbh.

 

[gatchaman]

Deathstroke possess Enhanced Strength, Speed/Reflexs and Durability. He beat Batman one on one, but was so badly rocked he could barely stagger away after the fight. He admitted that without his Superhuman powers, he would have lost.

I've fought the best. Batman was better.

Shiva is good, but Batman knocked her on her ass and cracked her ribs with a single punch when she was helping him to recover his fighting skills. Shiva also lost to Richard Dragon, who helped train a young Bruce Wayne.

DD beating Taskmaster (bullet timer) > Batman losing to Deathstroke (almost bullet timer).
DD sometimes beating Captain America (enhanced human and at least almost bullet timer) > Batman losing to Deathstroke (enhanced human and almost bullet timer).
DD sometimes beating Spider-Man (enhanced human and bullet timer) > Batman losing to Deathstroke (enhanced human and almost bullet timer).

Batman could get lucky against DD like Batman got lucky against Shiva, but Shiva beats Batman nine times out of ten.

Shiva, Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Shang-Chi, and Daredevil are in the category of bullet timers. Batman is a level below with guys like Bronze Tiger. He could win but should lose most times.

 

[raty tat tat]

Daredevil with ease. Batman is overrated Heck
I think even Spiderman can take him.

 

[FyrFytr998]

He's not stronger, and for like the millionth time, Daredevil is way, way faster.

This is from Marvel's official web site. Other than the aforementioned super senses. This is what they have to say about his strength and speed.

"Daredevil possesses the strength, speed, agility, and endurance, not to mention acrobatic and gymnastic skills, of an Olympic-level athlete."

So it would appear DD is just as guilty of bad power creep writers as Batman is.

 

[gatchaman]

This is from Marvel's official web site. Other than the aforementioned super senses. This is what they have to say about his strength and speed.

"Daredevil possesses the strength, speed, agility, and endurance, not to mention acrobatic and gymnastic skills, of an Olympic-level athlete."

So it would appear DD is just as guilty of bad power creep writers as Batman is.

The writer, who wrote the official stats, is guilty of power nerfing. DD's consistent on panel feats support my verdict. Mike90 is correct about DD's abilities.

 

[BoxingFan123]

Can we just all agree Batfleck would make minced meat out of that balding Netflix DD?

Also lol at that guy underrating SpiderMan, Spider would probably whoop both their asses combined.

 

[Mike]

This is from Marvel's official web site. Other than the aforementioned super senses. This is what they have to say about his strength and speed.

"Daredevil possesses the strength, speed, agility, and endurance, not to mention acrobatic and gymnastic skills, of an Olympic-level athlete."

So it would appear DD is just as guilty of bad power creep writers as Batman is.

The websites and official handbooks are notoriously inaccurate.


That's why most forums that do versus battles focus on consistent feats. And yes there is inherent power creep among all comics characters.


Like I was saying earlier with dc its so bad they have to reboot every 15 years or so.

 

[Orgasmo]

Batman always wins. Always. He could beat lung cancer with a pack of cigarettes.

 

[Mike]

Can we just all agree Batfleck would make minced meat out of that balding Netflix DD?

Also lol at that guy underrating SpiderMan, Spider would probably whoop both their asses combined.

He sure would. Spider-Man is ridiculous

 

[FyrFytr998]

I consider myself a fairly informed comic reader. As much as I want to say DD wins a fight against Batman, I can't, and many many other people agree with me both in the industry and out.

So good luck with the DD white knight crusade.

 

[Mike]

I consider myself a fairly informed comic reader. As much as I want to say DD wins a fight against Batman, I can't, and many many other people agree with me both in the industry and out.

So good luck with the DD white knight crusade.

Lol it's not really about that. I'm not some Daredevil superfan. I like DD and Batman, Batman probably a bit more because I've read way more of his books.


It's just that Batman has no business beating high level h2h fighters that also have metahuman level stats, when he is not a metahuman himself. Him getting beat up by such characters in his own books, while Daredevil frequently beats such characters, seems to confirm this.


Daredevil fights superpowered ninjas for a living, the same type of people Batman usually needs an assist to beat.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Can we just all agree Batfleck would make minced meat out of that balding Netflix DD?

Also lol at that guy underrating SpiderMan, Spider would probably whoop both their asses combined.

And then put Shiva over his knee, give her a spanking and tell her to go make him a sandwich.

 

[Mike]

And then put Shiva over his knee, give her a spanking and tell her to go make him a sandwich.

He hates hitting girls so he'd probably jump around her a bit making jokes, before koing her with that stupid finger flick thing he does when he wants to show off.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Lol it's not really about that. I'm not some Daredevil superfan. I like DD and Batman, Batman probably a bit more because I've read way more of his books.


It's just that Batman has no business beating high level h2h fighters that also have metahuman level stats, when he is not a metahuman himself. Him getting beat up by such characters in his own books, while Daredevil frequently beats such characters, seems to confirm this.


Daredevil fights superpowered ninjas for a living, the same type of people Batman usually needs an assist to beat.

As I already pointed out, Batman is Metahuman in all but name. No human, even the strongest, most dedicated, juiced up Powerlifters, could Bench 1,000 raw. Batman does it at a bodyweight of 210 while also maintaining world class levels of stamina, agility and fighting ability. In addition to all the other fields he has mastered.

At the end of the day, DD and Batman are similar characters. In fact, I've heard it said that DD is Marvel's blue collar version of Batman. While that's not entirely true, they are both essentially peak human fighters who's martial art's skills combined with an almost pyschotic level of dedication and ability to take punishment allows them to defeat opponents who, on paper, should walk through them.

Also, lol at using the Hand as an example of DD's fighting ability. They are as big a bunch of cans as the League of Assassins.

 

[Protectandserve]

Bats wins via being mean as fuck and fighting dirty.

 

[Mike]

I see @Anung Un Rama also voted Daredevil. I know you're super knowledgeable about comics, back up my logic here.

 

[Mike]

As I already pointed out, Batman is Metahuman in all but name. No human, even the strongest, most dedicated, juiced up Powerlifters, could Bench 1,000 raw. Batman does it at a bodyweight of 210 while also maintaining world class levels of stamina, agility and fighting ability. In addition to all the other fields he has mastered.

At the end of the day, DD and Batman are similar characters. In fact, I've heard it said that DD is Marvel's blue collar version of Batman. While that's not entirely true, they are both essentially peak human fighters who's martial art's skills combined with an almost pyschotic level of dedication and ability to take punishment allows them to defeat opponents who, on paper, should walk through them.

Also, lol at using the Hand as an example of DD's fighting ability. They are as big a bunch of cans as the League of Assassins.

I agree with most of that, except Batman doesn't have Daredevils absurd speed feats. And we're not talking one offs either, DD has tons and tons of them across multiple generations of comics.


And not just the Hand. DD has fought all kinds of super powered ninja types, just like Iron Fist. They're in that same genre. And yes the rank and file suck, but the top hand guys are legit, the same as the top LOA guys are some of the best fighters in the DCU.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I see @Anung Un Rama also voted Daredevil. I know you're super knowledgeable about comics, back up my logic here.

My bad, bro. I meant to vote for Batman. Murdock wouldn't go out like a chump, but he would eventually get beaten.

 

[Mike]

Bats wins via being mean as fuck and fighting dirty.

You must've missed when DD beat Bullseye half to death, carving symbols into his head with a knife at the end. OR when he beat Kingpin severely in a prison yard to establish dominance.


OR the times he's tied dudes up and tortured them for information. DD is a grimy, grimy dude. He's got mental toughness for days and won't hesitate to cripple or seriously injure someone to win a fight.