Batman vs. Daredevil - Who wins?

Batman vs. Daredevil - Who wins?

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VanteMMA said:
Well Bats had one in Batman begins. I'm not sure about the comics.

When I said blind him (DD), I was talking about his Sonar senses. The sudden influx of a 100 flying rodents should mess up his sonar a fair bit to give Bats an opening.
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Oh, I've never seen him use anything like that in the comics.
 
Mike90 said:
I tend to go with both characters meet in a random location with no foreknowledge, seems like the most fair way to go.


I agree with prep and knowledge of Matt's weaknesses, Bats could really fuck him over with sonics.
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Punisher did that in Marvel Knights. DD kicks his ass - Frank freely admits he doesn't stand a chance against him hand to hand - before Castle sets off the sonics. Matt is in agony, which prompts Frank to punch him out as quickly as possible to spare him any more pain.
 
mushishi said:
White noise generator or sonic blast to make daredevil "blind".
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Pretty much this.

It wouldn't take long for Batman to realize DD is blind, and he would find a way to make as much noise as possible to disorient DD. Then it's all over.

DD can't win, even if we take away the "prep time" aspect.
 
Mike90 said:
DD has fought to a draw with Black Panther and Captain America, and has beaten Wolverine before. Daredevil has been gotten to by stuff like the Kingpin or Bullseye killing people he loves, not random trash talk.


Daredevil is stronger than a regular human just like Batman is, he's also much faster than Batman. Within the marvel universe DD is acknowledged by all the heroes as being one of the best fighters around.


Batman figuring out DDs lack of vision immediately would be more stupid writing, which happens all the time in comics, but is still stupid. Like Deathstroke beating up the JLA including the flash and green lantern, just because he's a badass. People have fought DD or alongside DD for long periods of time without realizing he's blind. There's nothing in his fighting style that gives that away. Same way many characters on't know about Spideys spider sense


Batman has done so much dumb stuff with zero explanation except "I'm batman", like beating up lobo or making a metal suit and fighting Darkseid with it. Fighting Superman even though supes is literally thousands of times faster than he is.
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You don't think wearing a mask with no eye holes might be something of a give away?:rolleyes:
 
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@Mike90 all heroes/villains are subject to the whims of the writers. That's not something you build a case on.

Batman wins by virtue of having no perceived weaknesses vs. DD. While DD can be done in if his sensory powers are countered.
 
Kingpin has straight up merced DD multiple times. And not just by fucking with his radar sense/hearing either. Just straight stone-cold you're my prison-bitch beat downs.

Batman would absolutely wreck DD and then go have a threesome with Karen Page and Elektra.

I love DD. For a time, his comic was one of the best secrets of the comic book world. It wasn't a big seller so the Marvel editors gave the artists and writers a lot more freedom. The result was a consistently quality book. Something changed though along the way. Starting around the late 90s-early 2000s, kids who had grown up huge fanboys of DD (especially the Frank Miller era) began working on the DD book. And honestly, they ruined it. A lot of abilities that DD never had before suddenly showed up and got retconned into the book. Someone mentioned that DD was faster than a peak human. From 1964-1990 (yep, I've read them all; yay torrents!), that was never the case. DD was just a badass fighter and acrobat whose "superpowers" merely compensated for the fact that he was blind. What was great about him was that he was acutely aware of his own limitations as well. Fighting Black Panther, Cap, etc to standstill? Never would've happened back in the day. These days? Fucking Brian Michael Bendis would have Daredevil beating Superman if he thought he could get away with it.

BTW, all Daredevil fans should check out the Zatoichi series of films and tv series because A) there's a lot of great stuff in there, and B) Daredevil is "inspired" by Zatoichi -- did you think Frank Miller had DD fighting ninjas in NYC for no good reason?
 
cedented said:
Who wins in a fight between these two badasses?

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What a silly argument. Batman has the ability to take out any member of the Justice League. He can kill Superman if necessary. He's going to wreck that "blind" man like he's beating on a real handicap. It wouldn't even be a challenge. He would set off some device that overloads Daredevil's senses and capture him. Then he wins.
 
Mike90 said:
Yeah he's great at research, but he doesn't just automatically know everything about everyone. And it's impossible for him to know the strengths and weaknesses of people from different realities that he's never met..



Despite all that knowledge and training, he DOES get his ass kicked. Many of his victories come from getting beat up, and THEN studying someone.
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So basically Batman is undefeated in rematches.
 
Lonesome Crow said:
Kingpin has straight up merced DD multiple times. And not just by fucking with his radar sense/hearing either. Just straight stone-cold you're my prison-bitch beat downs.

Batman would absolutely wreck DD and then go have a threesome with Karen Page and Elektra.

I love DD. For a time, his comic was one of the best secrets of the comic book world. It wasn't a big seller so the Marvel editors gave the artists and writers a lot more freedom. The result was a consistently quality book. Something changed though along the way. Starting around the late 90s-early 2000s, kids who had grown up huge fanboys of DD (especially the Frank Miller era) began working on the DD book. And honestly, they ruined it. A lot of abilities that DD never had before suddenly showed up and got retconned into the book. Someone mentioned that DD was faster than a peak human. From 1964-1990 (yep, I've read them all; yay torrents!), that was never the case. DD was just a badass fighter and acrobat whose "superpowers" merely compensated for the fact that he was blind. What was great about him was that he was acutely aware of his own limitations as well. Fighting Black Panther, Cap, etc to standstill? Never would've happened back in the day. These days? Fucking Brian Michael Bendis would have Daredevil beating Superman if he thought he could get away with it.

BTW, all Daredevil fans should check out the Zatoichi series of films and tv series because A) there's a lot of great stuff in there, and B) Daredevil is "inspired" by Zatoichi -- did you think Frank Miller had DD fighting ninjas in NYC for no good reason?
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That's not a big deal. Prime Kingpin wrecked DD, Captain America, Punisher, even freaking Spider-man. That guy was the final boss of street level characters.


It was revealed at some point that he ISN'T fat, it's pure muscle and he essentially has super strength.
 
All joking aside. Batman with prep time takes it. No prep time? I'll go with DD.
 
FyrFytr998 said:
@Mike90 all heroes/villains are subject to the whims of the writers. That's not something you build a case on.

Batman wins by virtue of having no perceived weaknesses vs. DD. While DD can be done in if his sensory powers are countered.
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IT is important to note, because EVERY character with some history has absurd showings doing things they can't do 99% of the time. Any forum where these kind of battles are discussed semi seriously ( yes, I know it's not exactly a serious topic) there are rules about what kind of stuff is admissible.


Otherwise you get stuff like Captain America knocking out the hulk with tekken combo, Spider-man koing high level cosmic beings and beating up quicksilver, Batman beating up Lobo and the Hulk, Thor stalemating Galactus, etc.

jgarner said:
What a silly argument. Batman has the ability to take out any member of the Justice League. He can kill Superman if necessary. He's going to wreck that "blind" man like he's beating on a real handicap. It wouldn't even be a challenge. He would set off some device that overloads Daredevil's senses and capture him. Then he wins.
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No, no he does not. Every Superman vs Batman encounter starts with Batman utilizing kryptonite based traps and taking everything super serial, while Superman is basically just playing around with him, and inexplicably forgetting that he's literally thousands of times faster than humans.

silus_2000 said:
So basically Batman is undefeated in rematches.
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Not undefeated but a pretty damn good record. It's odd that the default is Super Stalker Mode Batman though ,as in the comics he DOES run into people without any prior prep, and he DOES get his ass kicked.
 
Daredevil = Connor McGregor

Reflexes. Toiming. Eye-ba-proffin.

Batman, tho, he's the balance beam.

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FyrFytr998 said:
This is a fairly logical break down IMO.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/does-batman-always-win-batman-vs-daredevil/1100-146251/
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That breakdown is pretty good, but I disagree with their assertion that Daredevil has only a minor speed advantage and batman is better everywhere else. Daredevil has had draws or outright beaten some of the best h2h fighters in marvel, Batman isn't really stronger or more durable, and Daredevil is much faster, he actually has superhuman speed feats and lots of them.
 
Mike90 said:
That breakdown is pretty good, but I disagree with their assertion that Daredevil has only a minor speed advantage and batman is better everywhere else. Daredevil has had draws or outright beaten some of the best h2h fighters in marvel, Batman isn't really stronger or more durable, and Daredevil is much faster, he actually has superhuman speed feats and lots of them.
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Also, that whole master of 127 fighting styles bullshit.
 
I can understand folks being up in arms with rampant fan boys of Batman, but this isn't a case where it's justified.

Point blank. Batman has equal physical skills and more toys to take out DD.
 
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