I had 2 weeks off before the release of IW for my sons birth. Me and my wife spent the last week binge watching the movies while we took care of my son and just chilled. Cap 1 and Thor 1 were still a choir to get through such bad movies.
I like Cap 1 feels hokey in a good way mostly becusse I enjoyed Stanley Tucci, Hayley Atwell and Tommy Lee Jones. Hugo Weaving looks bored as fuck though .
Thor makes you appreciate how good the Chemistry Hopkins and Hiddleston had , Hiddleston tried to elevate his performance opposite Hopkins, Hemsworth looks really green and the movie doesn't take advantage of his general likability and comedic timing . The Effects are really bad in this too.
1. This isn't logical at all. Your asking them to just give up and let their friend kill himself. On top of that the team really didn't understand how powerful Thanos was so they aren't going to give up so easily.
2. Thor just arrived on field I don't think he was getting up to date information on where he was needed most.
3. She didn't want to see her sister tortured to death. It's that simple. Maybe she will die anyways but it wont be with her watching\hearing it happen.
1. It's logical. It's pure logic, actually, which is why they didn't do it. Wanting to save the life of their friend is an emotional response. At that point, everyone in the group on Earth knew that Thanos had smacked around Thor and Hulk like they were his bitches, and they're the two most physically powerful Avengers by far. Logic would dictate that in order to keep him from becoming even more powerful, which they know he's slowly becoming by getting his hands on all of the stones, they might have to take extreme measures in order to prevent that. I understand why they didn't want to do it that way, but it's still tactically unsound.
2. Someone couldn't have told him???? Communication is the single most useful resource in war.
3. Just like #1, I understand why she did it, but it's still tactically unsound.
When Ebony Maw blasts the fire hydrant and the water blast shoots Wong out of the way
A fire hydrant is like a foreign alien thing to Maw just like any foreign alien thing to us is confusing, fucking Bruce Banner had difficulty with a space ship that dumb Thor could pilot
How did Maw quickly understand what a fire hydrant not only was but know which way to break it with his powers to blow wong?
When Ebony Maw blasts the fire hydrant and the water blast shoots Wong out of the way
A fire hydrant is like a foreign alien thing to Maw just like any foreign alien thing to us is confusing, fucking Bruce Banner had difficulty with a space ship that dumb Thor could pilot
How did Maw quickly understand what a fire hydrant not only was but know which way to break it with his powers to blow wong?
Seemed to me like he has elemental type powers. He could probably feel or sense the water. Also who knows if he's been to earth before. One last option is maybe is home planet also has fire hydrants lol.
When Ebony Maw blasts the fire hydrant and the water blast shoots Wong out of the way
A fire hydrant is like a foreign alien thing to Maw just like any foreign alien thing to us is confusing, fucking Bruce Banner had difficulty with a space ship that dumb Thor could pilot
How did Maw quickly understand what a fire hydrant not only was but know which way to break it with his powers to blow wong?
Seemed to me like he has elemental type powers. He could probably feel or sense the water. Also who knows if he's been to earth before. One last option is maybe is home planet also has fire hydrants lol.
Was a little flimsy but basically with the death of German Doctor the only way to replicate the formula lied in Steve Rogers. Didn’t want to expose him in fear of losing the ability to create more soldiers. Not the best reasoning, but necessary to have him overcome the obstacle.
Also since he was the first of his kind of superhero; I’m sure no one really knew what he was capable of.
This goes along US doctrine of WWIi (and later) preserving assets for future study and exploitation.
Good pilots, for example, were sent back to the US after a few kills so that they could train new pilots. They had real, useful experience and where too valuable to be lost in an accident or to the enemy.
Germans or Japanese, on the contrary, kept their aces flying until they got killed. They in general didn't get to train anyone, and they were so important that their deaths demoralized the whole air force or whatever.
Japan, at one point, after the losses of Midway and Coral Sea, didn't have any pilots capable of landing on an aircraft carrier, because they didn't send any of the experienced guys back to teach green pilots. So at Leyte Gulf they sent carriers as decoys, with no planes. The US, instead, was churning our new pilots with the best training.
So it makes sense from an historical point of view on US doctrine.
However, I'm pretty sure filmmakers don't know this and just did it to move the script.
When Ebony Maw blasts the fire hydrant and the water blast shoots Wong out of the way
A fire hydrant is like a foreign alien thing to Maw just like any foreign alien thing to us is confusing, fucking Bruce Banner had difficulty with a space ship that dumb Thor could pilot
How did Maw quickly understand what a fire hydrant not only was but know which way to break it with his powers to blow wong?
Okay, so I have a theory about where the sequel is headed, but I don't read anything online anymore, because there is too much crowd-sourced sharing, which takes the fun out of it, so I have no idea if this is familiar to the point of contempt:
Nothing we see in the movie after Thanos threw Gamora off the ledge is real.
He wakes up the lake outside the mountain with the soul stone in his right hand after the sky opens up following Gamora's apparent death. It's a deliberately disorienting cut. That's because he isn't out. He hasn't passed the test. He is still in the test.
"The Soul Stone holds a special place among all the Infinity Stones," Red Skull tells him, after telling him, "We all believe that at first...we are all wrong" in response to Thanos's reply that he is prepared to pay the price the stone asks. It's the MCU way of saying, "Be careful what you wish for," because wisdom teaches us that we often don't truly want what we believe we want, or at least getting what we want doesn't necessarily conform to our expectations, as in a Faustian deal, where we might have overlooked some of the terms of those unspoken expectations.
My friend pointed out to me the other night when we were viewing Infinity War for the first time since watching it in the theaters that when The Guardians first arrive at Nowhere, where the Collector lives, you can see the glow of the red cloud of mist in the foreground. We missed this in the movie theaters because we didn't yet know Thanos already had the Reality Stone, Aether, which takes the form of a red cloud, and that what they were seeing was an illusion (Nowhere was conquered and burning). The red mist is the tell.
At the end of the film, when it cuts to the final scene, where Thanos looks out on the sky and smiles in contentment, the first thing we see are these red clouds, and then it pans down to the hut he walks out of. It's easy to miss them in the film because we assume it's an effect of the sunset, but it appears distinctively Aether. He is in an illusion.
I think he still only has the three stones. The sequel picks up the fight where it stands, with him in possession of half of the stones, and that's the fight.
Thanos was clearly prepared to pay the price of Gamora's life towards his campaign, so I'm left wondering how he is wrong, as Red Skull warned, and also how the Soul Stone has a special place among the stones. I have two three answers, and they come together nicely even though they stand apart from the above speculation:
The Soul Stone is the one stone that cannot be taken; it must be given. Like life for the universe, or the life in a child, it is a gift, not a conquest.
The Soul Stone is special among the stones because it binds and can manipulate the other stones. That is how it manipulates Aether to test Thanos despite his possession of it. For this reason, the Soul Stone is sort of the natural Infinity Gauntlet
"A soul for a soul" doesn't describe an exchange of the one you love most for command of the stone, but an exchange of keeper for keeper. Red Skull is the Stonekeeper, and now that Thanos has sacrificed Gamora, he is free, and she becomes the Stonekeeper. However, unlike him, she did not seek the stone, or power over it. So unlike Red Skull, she has not incurred a price she isn't willing to pay, and will enjoy the luxury of being more than a servant to the Soul Stone. Or, at least, she will command that power with a different agenda. The Keeper determines who does and does not have it. Red Skull only wanted to deceive Thanos to free himself. Gamora will not be so selfish.
It fits together with a more general insight I had into the movie. Thanos has two foils: Iron Man and Starlord.
That wasn't clear until this movie. It occurred to me that Gamora loves Starlord for the same reason she weeps over Thanos, and that they are mirror images. Thanos is willing to kill what he loves most to kill half the universe (even if he ultimately wants to preserve life). Starlord is willing to kill what he loves most to save half the universe. This is why Thanos said, "I like him". Starlord may only be doing it because she demands it, but he and Gamora share the same vision for what is right. Thanos has no patience for idealists who are so pure they lack the will to effect their goals. He despises everyone like this...except for Gamora.
Distance is created between all three in this one capacity. Gamora, unlike Starlord, is unwilling to do this. She'll kill Thanos, but she will not let her sister die to deprive him of the Soul Stone. She knows Starlord and the rest of the Guardians would be next, but still...if she was willing to practice what she preaches, she would let them die to save half the universe.
In my personal opinion, this more of less perfectly distills the difference between masculinity and femininity, and more importantly, how they complement and balance one another. Without Gamora, Starlord would just be Thanos. Without Starlord, Gamora would just be Thanos's daughter. You cannot be whole alone. You can only be half an equation.
That is what Thanos himself is. His campaign is to spare half the universe, but his solution is to cull it. We accept that for fauna, but this isn't about fauna. Planets and nature aren't threatened by what are merely alternative versions of themselves. This is "basic calculus"; this is about those who exist outside of nature, and bend it to their will: intelligent beings. He justifies his culling of Gamora's world with "full bellies" and creature comfort. He values the quality of life, or at least the preservation of it, over the sanctity of life itself. Still, there are echoes of Peter when he says, "You can't be the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man if there's no neighborhood." But that isn't guaranteed, and that's where Thanos goes wrong.
Merely because his home planet Titan fell to ruin, and failed to self-correct, doesn't mean that other planets will also fail. He has deprived them of that chance. Furthermore, while I noticed the press drew a lot of analogies between Thanos and Trump, it's impossible not to notice his blind toll collects from rich and poor, young and old, powerful and weak, good and evil...it's quite socialist. Nothing you do distinguishes or spares you. Thanos has adopted the role of God, which I think Loki intended to warn him he would never be, but this is inherently contradictory. After all, if you thought the natural model of intelligent life was flawed, then why would you "reset" it rather than work to correct the imbalance? Perfect systems don't require correction-- only participation. All you have done is moved more murder down the road.
While in the movie the following line is interpreted as a matter of logistics, I think it is intended to have a dual, metaphorical meaning when Thanos tells Thor, who just drove an axe into his chest, "You should have gone for the head." The reason is that his heart is gone, figuratively. Gamora is dead. If you are willing to kill what you love most, then you are willing to kill anything. For what? Quality of life? Herd insurance against the unknown?
You are not God, sir. You don't determine what quality of life an individual is willing to endure, what value that has, nor do you don't know what the future holds. When "God works in mysterious ways" we must accept it because we cannot change it. God is God. Call it nature. Call it physical law. Call it good, or evil. Doesn't matter what you believe. You aren't at those controls, and you don't understand how they work. Thanos, on the other hand, is known/knowable to us, and so are his motives, so he must justify them.
The solution to Death cannot be Death. You need Life to have Death. Thanos is so obsessed and alone that he does not think to create. He forgets what he serves in believing he could be the Master of Death. The end becomes the means. All head, no heart. Half an equation: like a husband without a wife, or a wife without a husband. Perhaps that is why he calls his minions "children".
This is where Tony comes in. Tony is the smartest man alive. Tony is Thanos's foil because he, too, is "cursed with knowledge", and this isn't just a reference to their mind-bond, but to the fact that Tony has tried to warn his own planet to not be so self-involved, and to prepare for threats of the unknown. Yet he has mostly gone unheeded. His own efforts to prepare have been received with hostility, or proven Faustian in their own right. Remember Ultron? He shared Thanos's same solution to the virus-like spread of intelligent organic life, but his was no half-measure. Tony's own security measures proved too authoritarian for some, and drove The Avengers to civil war. It's this very end that Thanos sought to avoid. Some say the world will end in fire.
Tony also doesn't have children. He frets deeply about this to Pepper at the beginning of the movie, and that sets the tone. He does have something of a surrogate son, though, doesn't he?
Part of me wonders if this is where Thanos cheated, and wasn't random with his glove. Starlord is immortal. Death could be construed as "mercy". He also killed all of her crewmates, except Rocket, who abandoned them, and obviously needs the group the most despite that he pretends he needs it the least. Meanwhile, he dislikes Tony, but I don't think that's for a lack of will. I noticed he killed Spider-Man, and he took his sweet time doing it. Didn't feel so random that time.
Ms. Marvel better not fuck up the incredible mythology we have going here with some fempower bullshit. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Okay, so I have a theory about where the sequel is headed, but I don't read anything online anymore, because there is too much crowd-sourced sharing, which takes the fun out of it, so I have no idea if this is familiar to the point of contempt:
Nothing we see in the movie after Thanos threw Gamora off the ledge is real.
He wakes up the lake outside the mountain with the soul stone in his right hand after the sky opens up following Gamora's apparent death. It's a deliberately disorienting cut. That's because he isn't out. He hasn't passed the test. He is still in the test.
"The Soul Stone holds a special place among all the Infinity Stones," Red Skull tells him, after telling him, "We all believe that at first...we are all wrong" in response to Thanos's reply that he is prepared to pay the price the stone asks. It's the MCU way of saying, "Be careful what you wish for," because wisdom teaches us that we often don't truly want what we believe we want, or at least getting what we want doesn't necessarily conform to our expectations, as in a Faustian deal, where we might have overlooked some of the terms of those unspoken expectations.
My friend pointed out to me the other night when we were viewing Infinity War for the first time since watching it in the theaters that when The Guardians first arrive at Nowhere, where the Collector lives, you can see the glow of the red cloud of mist in the foreground. We missed this in the movie theaters because we didn't yet know Thanos already had the Reality Stone, Aether, which takes the form of a red cloud, and that what they were seeing was an illusion (Nowhere was conquered and burning). The red mist is the tell.
At the end of the film, when it cuts to the final scene, where Thanos looks out on the sky and smiles in contentment, the first thing we see are these red clouds, and then it pans down to the hut he walks out of. It's easy to miss them in the film because we assume it's an effect of the sunset, but it appears distinctively Aether. He is in an illusion.
I think he still only has the three stones. The sequel picks up the fight where it stands, with him in possession of half of the stones, and that's the fight.
Thanos was clearly prepared to pay the price of Gamora's life towards his campaign, so I'm left wondering how he is wrong, as Red Skull warned, and also how the Soul Stone has a special place among the stones. I have two three answers, and they come together nicely even though they stand apart from the above speculation:
The Soul Stone is the one stone that cannot be taken; it must be given. Like life for the universe, or the life in a child, it is a gift, not a conquest.
The Soul Stone is special among the stones because it binds and can manipulate the other stones. That is how it manipulates Aether to test Thanos despite his possession of it. For this reason, the Soul Stone is sort of the natural Infinity Gauntlet
"A soul for a soul" doesn't describe an exchange of the one you love most for command of the stone, but an exchange of keeper for keeper. Red Skull is the Stonekeeper, and now that Thanos has sacrificed Gamora, he is free, and she becomes the Stonekeeper. However, unlike him, she did not seek the stone, or power over it. So unlike Red Skull, she has not incurred a price she isn't willing to pay, and will enjoy the luxury of being more than a servant to the Soul Stone. Or, at least, she will command that power with a different agenda. The Keeper determines who does and does not have it. Red Skull only wanted to deceive Thanos to free himself. Gamora will not be so selfish.
It fits together with a more general insight I had into the movie. Thanos has two foils: Iron Man and Starlord.
That wasn't clear until this movie. It occurred to me that Gamora loves Starlord for the same reason she weeps over Thanos, and that they are mirror images. Thanos is willing to kill what he loves most to kill half the universe (even if he ultimately wants to preserve life). Starlord is willing to kill what he loves most to save half the universe. This is why Thanos said, "I like him". Starlord may only be doing it because she demands it, but he and Gamora share the same vision for what is right. Thanos has no patience for idealists who are so pure they lack the will to effect their goals. He despises everyone like this...except for Gamora.
Distance is created between all three in this one capacity. Gamora, unlike Starlord, is unwilling to do this. She'll kill Thanos, but she will not let her sister die to deprive him of the Soul Stone. She knows Starlord and the rest of the Guardians would be next, but still...if she was willing to practice what she preaches, she would let them die to save half the universe.
In my personal opinion, this more of less perfectly distills the difference between masculinity and femininity, and more importantly, how they complement and balance one another. Without Gamora, Starlord would just be Thanos. Without Starlord, Gamora would just be Thanos's daughter. You cannot be whole alone. You can only be half an equation.
That is what Thanos himself is. His campaign is to spare half the universe, but his solution is to cull it. We accept that for fauna, but this isn't about fauna. Planets and nature aren't threatened by what are merely alternative versions of themselves. This is "basic calculus"; this is about those who exist outside of nature, and bend it to their will: intelligent beings. He justifies his culling of Gamora's world with "full bellies" and creature comfort. He values the quality of life, or at least the preservation of it, over the sanctity of life itself. Still, there are echoes of Peter when he says, "You can't be the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man if there's no neighborhood." But that isn't guaranteed, and that's where Thanos goes wrong.
Merely because his home planet Titan fell to ruin, and failed to self-correct, doesn't mean that other planets will also fail. He has deprived them of that chance. Furthermore, while I noticed the press drew a lot of analogies between Thanos and Trump, it's impossible not to notice his blind toll collects from rich and poor, young and old, powerful and weak, good and evil...it's quite socialist. Nothing you do distinguishes or spares you. Thanos has adopted the role of God, which I think Loki intended to warn him he would never be, but this is inherently contradictory. After all, if you thought the natural model of intelligent life was flawed, then why would you "reset" it rather than work to correct the imbalance? Perfect systems don't require correction-- only participation. All you have done is moved more murder down the road.
While in the movie the following line is interpreted as a matter of logistics, I think it is intended to have a dual, metaphorical meaning when Thanos tells Thor, who just drove an axe into his chest, "You should have gone for the head." The reason is that his heart is gone, figuratively. Gamora is dead. If you are willing to kill what you love most, then you are willing to kill anything. For what? Quality of life? Herd insurance against the unknown?
You are not God, sir. You don't determine what quality of life an individual is willing to endure, what value that has, nor do you don't know what the future holds. When "God works in mysterious ways" we must accept it because we cannot change it. God is God. Call it nature. Call it physical law. Call it good, or evil. Doesn't matter what you believe. You aren't at those controls, and you don't understand how they work. Thanos, on the other hand, is known/knowable to us, and so are his motives, so he must justify them.
The solution to Death cannot be Death. You need Life to have Death. Thanos is so obsessed and alone that he does not think to create. He forgets what he serves in believing he could be the Master of Death. The end becomes the means. All head, no heart. Half an equation: like a husband without a wife, or a wife without a husband. Perhaps that is why he calls his minions "children".
This is where Tony comes in. Tony is the smartest man alive. Tony is Thanos's foil because he, too, is "cursed with knowledge", and this isn't just a reference to their mind-bond, but to the fact that Tony has tried to warn his own planet to not be so self-involved, and to prepare for threats of the unknown. Yet he has mostly gone unheeded. His own efforts to prepare have been received with hostility, or proven Faustian in their own right. Remember Ultron? He shared Thanos's same solution to the virus-like spread of intelligent organic life, but his was no half-measure. Tony's own security measures proved too authoritarian for some, and drove The Avengers to civil war. It's this very end that Thanos sought to avoid. Some say the world will end in fire.
Tony also doesn't have children. He frets deeply about this to Pepper at the beginning of the movie, and that sets the tone. He does have something of a surrogate son, though, doesn't he?
Part of me wonders if this is where Thanos cheated, and wasn't random with his glove. Starlord is immortal. Death could be construed as "mercy". He also killed all of her crewmates, except Rocket, who abandoned them, and obviously needs the group the most despite that he pretends he needs it the least. Meanwhile, he dislikes Tony, but I don't think that's for a lack of will. I noticed he killed Spider-Man, and he took his sweet time doing it. Didn't feel so random that time.
Ms. Marvel better not fuck up the incredible mythology we have going here with some fempower bullshit. That's all I'm going to say about that.
I agree, but that's comics. Retcons, altered timelines, fake deaths, you didn't see what you saw, etc.
Don't worry. The cutscene after the credits almost certainly precludes it. Otherwise, what's the point of needing useless Nick Fury to hit a button on his cellphone before disappearing? I feel like we all know that time is going to be rewound with the Time Stone at a minimum. They aren't going to let that reality settle. Otherwise, what's the point of the second movie? Thanos never wanted to kill the second half of the universe. He's done. Furthermore, I don't think he could. The Infinity Gauntlet looked destroyed by the act, and this is a weapon that only the giant Dwarves could forge. Thanos himself appeared severely burned on that side of his body, and especially the arm with the gauntlet. I don't see him waiting around to repeat the cycle like he was in the Mass Effect universe.
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