Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.12

[SheetsMMAfan]

Quite a few of you need to understand that Dr. Strange saw all this shit coming when he was meditating. From then on, he knew where he needed to be and what needed to happen to give them that ONE SINGLE chance they had at actually defeating Thanos. He knew the sacrifices that needed to be made, and he knew what his part in those sacrifices had to be and played them.

He allowed Tony and Quill to come up with their strategy of letting Thanos come to them, and what to do when he did. He knew Quill would fly off the handle, yet he knew he had to let him do it. He sat and watched that entire scenario unfold, and waited until the exact moment to relinquish the time stone. He knew that if he waited until Tony was inches away from death, that Tony would see his true intentions by giving Thanos the stone to save his life, especially after telling Stark that he wouldn't let the time stone go no matter what, insinuating that if lives were on the line, the stone would come first. He knew that would alter Tony's thought process in a way that when Tony was a survivor, he would be able to assist in rallying the troops and putting an end to Thanos even after he seemed to have been victorious in his plot.

Strange could have created a portal back to Wakanda after giving away the time stone and warned Thor that Thanos was coming, and to jump him at so and so moment to defeat him for good, but that was no doubt one of the scenarios that didn't work in the end. Strange saw it all. Everything. He watched it play out 14 million times. The battles went how they needed to go to ultimately get the good guys the win, so even though dumb decisions were made, they were expected and needed to get the outcome that's best for everyone.

This is a movie that I will no doubt be watching 1-2 times a month just because of how good it was, from start to finish. I don't think their is a single second of this movie that I didn't enjoy. I am hoping that in the next one, we can see plans that Strange set in motion more clearly, and perhaps some communications that he had with others to ensure his plan went off without a hitch and how the plan comes to fruition. After this one ending the way it did, the next movie will no doubt shatter the fuck out of the record books, and I am excited as fuck to see it all play out.

 

[Tiny]

I know everyone keeps harping on about Quill's dumbass move when trying to get off Thanos' gauntlet, but since I've now seen this with the family 3x, and I saw it like twice in theaters, I've noticed a couple more moments of bad decision making...

1. Cap's whole "we don't trade lives" is fucking RETARDED!!! Vision was ready, willing, and able to trade his life for the universe, but let's instead go with the more complicated, time consuming, and stupid plan of somehow removing the Mind Stone without killing him. One life to save the universe is more than fair. He fucking died anyway! (and yes, I'm fully aware that it would go against the tone of the Avengers movies to allow Vision to commit suicide via Wanda, but I'm talking pure logic here)

2. Why the fuck was Thor fucking around with Thanos' fodder and the random space ships, when the most important person in Wakanda at the time, Vision and his Mind Stone, needed guarding? Aside from Scarlet Witch, who along with Doc Strange is hilariously depowered in the movies, Thor was easily the most powerful Avenger on that field. He could have kept Thanos from getting the stone.

3. Where was Gamorra's resolve? What's the point of taking him to the Soul Stone to save your sister's life, when he mind end up killing her anyway with his engame, and there was far from a guarantee he would even live up to his bargain? He's shown nothing but contempt for Nebula.

Most of this can be summed up that the avenger's failed because they were not willing to make the ultimate sacrifice and were arrogant in believing they could just stop Thanos.

Cap didn't want to kill Vision.
Gamora couldn't watch her sister die from torture to protect the location of the soul stone. Loki couldn't do the same with Thor at the beginning of the movie.
Scarlett Witch could, but by then it was too late.
Dr Strange chose not to destroy the time stone at the start of the movie because he was arrogant in thinking he and Iron Man could simply stop Thanos.

All bad choices with great intentions.

As for Thor fucking around with fodder? Maybe he didn't know.? He wouldn't have had a headset on to communicate with the rest of the team.

 

[Kraysla]

then again, i do have a 40 year old bladder

My 44 year old bladder did not make it, unfortunately. Tried to time it during a lull in the action, missed the part where Thanos almost lost the gauntlet. So much action i was bound to miss something good.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Lol he's throwing an axe from like 200 ft in the sky, he would have a better chance of hitting the target going for the chest than head. And it's not like he knew that Thanos snapping his fingers would cause that mass extinction

These were people being people
They have powers, but they are still just people at their core. Heroes aren't perfect , it would have been a boring movie if they were

This. Unless you are a highly trained sniper with a rifle specifically designed for extreme accuracy, centre mass is always the go-to target for a ranged attack.

Also, Thor was pissed, and wanted to make Thanos suffer before he killed him. He didn't realise that even mortally wounding Thanos would still leave him enough time to complete his plan.

 

[TrueBias]

After the 6th time watching, even though Vision is dead, he did not fade away.

Food for thought..

 

[MMouse]

It's unfortunate, but i think a lot of people are more praising the MCU for not being crappy, instead of for being as good as it is. People keep trying to label them as simple "comic book movies" with obvious plots, and simple good vs evil storylines. The MCU has been nothing like that at all. 18 movies in, I don't know what it will take to get people to get that.
I just rewatched Civil War last night, and the stuff between Tony and Cap, and that betrayal was excellent. The lesson of vengeance and what it does to your soul. There was a lot more going on in that movie besides the cool airport fight scene.

Thor was cast down to Earth and stripped of his power for his arrogance in Thor 1, Tony is a narcissist that has trouble following rules and working as a team, Captain America has a very rigid thinking of right and wrong, you could do this with pretty much any MCU character, they've always been portrayed as human, completely capable of making mistakes. They aren't infallible gods

It is no different in the real world. Take your best cops, marines, FBI, CIA, etc, and then give them super powers. You think they're not going to fuck up sometimes? Will their personal morals and feelings never effect their job?
It happens everyday in real life with no super powers.
So this argument that "wull, Dr Strange shoulda....Quill shoulda...." is silly. They're not perfect. They're flawed people with great power. That is a big part of what makes them interesting. That at their core, they aren't that different from any other man.

Well said

 

[SheetsMMAfan]

After the 6th time watching, even though Vision is dead, he did not fade away.

Food for thought..

Yep, after my last viewing it got me thinking. She remapped alot of his genomes or whatever you wanna call them, so he could quite possibly be kickstarted back to life by something, perhaps some Ms. Marvel energy, and aid them in their ventures to thwart Thanos in the sequel.

 

[MMouse]

This. Unless you are a highly trained sniper with a rifle specifically designed for extreme accuracy, centre mass is always the go-to target for a ranged attack.

Also, Thor was pissed, and wanted to make Thanos suffer before he killed him. He didn't realise that even mortally wounding Thanos would still leave him enough time to complete his plan.

Its funny how the little mistakes cost these guys...from being an emotional hot head (Quill), to chasing down the threat yourself (Stark) to having abit of ego instead of finishing it (Thor) ect

Ive said it, against Thanos there is no room for error

 

[method115]

I know everyone keeps harping on about Quill's dumbass move when trying to get off Thanos' gauntlet, but since I've now seen this with the family 3x, and I saw it like twice in theaters, I've noticed a couple more moments of bad decision making...

1. Cap's whole "we don't trade lives" is fucking RETARDED!!! Vision was ready, willing, and able to trade his life for the universe, but let's instead go with the more complicated, time consuming, and stupid plan of somehow removing the Mind Stone without killing him. One life to save the universe is more than fair. He fucking died anyway! (and yes, I'm fully aware that it would go against the tone of the Avengers movies to allow Vision to commit suicide via Wanda, but I'm talking pure logic here)

2. Why the fuck was Thor fucking around with Thanos' fodder and the random space ships, when the most important person in Wakanda at the time, Vision and his Mind Stone, needed guarding? Aside from Scarlet Witch, who along with Doc Strange is hilariously depowered in the movies, Thor was easily the most powerful Avenger on that field. He could have kept Thanos from getting the stone.

3. Where was Gamorra's resolve? What's the point of taking him to the Soul Stone to save your sister's life, when he mind end up killing her anyway with his engame, and there was far from a guarantee he would even live up to his bargain? He's shown nothing but contempt for Nebula.

1. This isn't logical at all. Your asking them to just give up and let their friend kill himself. On top of that the team really didn't understand how powerful Thanos was so they aren't going to give up so easily.

2. Thor just arrived on field I don't think he was getting up to date information on where he was needed most.

3. She didn't want to see her sister tortured to death. It's that simple. Maybe she will die anyways but it wont be with her watching\hearing it happen.

 

[heavyarms21]

Thor Ragnarok back to back with This along with GOTG back to Back with GOTG2 is my favorite combo to watch.

 

[method115]

Thor Ragnarok back to back with This along with GOTG back to Back with GOTG2 is my favorite combo to watch.

I had 2 weeks off before the release of IW for my sons birth. Me and my wife spent the last week binge watching the movies while we took care of my son and just chilled. Cap 1 and Thor 1 were still a choir to get through such bad movies.

 

[KnightTemplar]

After the 6th time watching, even though Vision is dead, he did not fade away.

Food for thought..

Only living beings where effected by the Finger Snap of Doom; half the corpses in the universe didn't fade away.

That said, since Vision is an artificial life form, it's very likely he will come back. An easy way to bring it about would be Shuri essentially making a copy of Vision's consciousness and downloading it into a new body. Vision 2.0

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I had 2 weeks off before the release of IW for my sons birth. Me and my wife spent the last week binge watching the movies while we took care of my son and just chilled. Cap 1 and Thor 1 were still a choir to get through such bad movies.

weird, i loved those 2 movies.

 

[SheetsMMAfan]

Vision 2.0

 

[method115]

weird, i loved those 2 movies.

Thor 1 is a little more passable because of the comedy but my god is Cap 1 bad. Literally the whole scene with cap doing the plays\acting could have been cut out of the movie. Winter Soldier though is one of the best films which surprised me after how bad Cap 1 was.

 

[Mike]

I'm actually very worried. This movie had it all. As much as I love Marvel, I don't think they can surpass the awesomeness of this one.

I'm still crossing my fingers though.

I'm a marvel megafan. These are the movies ive wanted to see since I was five years old. So my hype level was high going in, but these movies have still largely exceeded my expectations.


Coming into IW I was slightly nervous because it was the culmination of twenty movies worth of hype. But goddamn that movie blew me away. Most fun I've had watching a movie since I was a little kid. TBH they have my complete trust now. Im curious to see how they try to top themselves, and I know they WILL try. They have been incredibly ambitious with this universe.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Thor 1 is a little more passable because of the comedy but my god is Cap 1 bad. Literally the whole scene with cap doing the plays\acting could have been cut out of the movie. Winter Soldier though is one of the best films which surprised me after how bad Cap 1 was.

Initially , i didn't like Cap 1, but i appreciated it more on subsequent views.
Far from the best, but, i do like it now. Red Skull deserves more than he's gotten though

 

[TrueBias]

Initially , i didn't like Cap 1, but i appreciated it more on subsequent views.
Far from the best, but, i do like it now. Red Skull deserves more than he's gotten though

Does red skull have any powers, per say? Cant remember.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Thor 1 is a little more passable because of the comedy but my god is Cap 1 bad. Literally the whole scene with cap doing the plays\acting could have been cut out of the movie. Winter Soldier though is one of the best films which surprised me after how bad Cap 1 was.

I thought him doing the plays/acting fit perfectly with the tone of the movie and the era it was set in.

Agree on Winter Soldier.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Does red skull have any powers, per say? Cant remember.

In the movies, i believe he had a version of the super soldier serum that Cap had
It wasnt as good as Cap's so it left him fucked up looking