Media Aspinall: I am ready to move on from Jones

Tom is playing it wrong

He should ignore Jon and try to defend his interim. This would put A LOT of pressure on the ufc
Its so stupid but i actually agree with this, he’s too quiet and media people are UFC shills. Tom should come out and demand a second interim title defense so everyone would talk about this most retarded situation in UFC history and put Dana in a sh** spot having to answer questions about how tf did all the other champs fought more but were stripped and you have the interim champ with his second interim title defense. This is so absurd…
 
They have not... That'd only happen IF someone wasn't going to fight. Guess who? Watch Michael Bisping... He himself said that it doesn't make sense for Chael to have announced Tom vs JJ and then Tom vs Gane, as the latter fight makes no sense and he (Bisping ) said he knows the UFC wouldn't go that direction. Bisping then concluded that the JJ vs Tom fight was intended but someone declined and the Tom vs Gane was a smokescreen video Chael had to make afterwards... Chael said JJ accepted the offer, that is, he said yes. Dana said the same. Why is it not done? Why is Tom talking about the fact he won't be able to be on a camp for 2 months? Why did Tom say "believe me, I want to fight. But I need to have some further negotiations with the UFC, I need to discuss stuff"... ?

Can you connect the dots? Maybe I could draw....
Aspinall didn't say what you claim, you're now dragging Bisping's off the cuff remarks into this...Holy shit you're like a stream of consciousness basket case throwing darts blindfolded hoping someone buys this nonsense. Buddy, NOBODY is following you on your trip to fantasy land. Nobody.
 
ok so if they'll get the jones fight signed, why should jones be stripped?
Literally no one of arguing that. He should be stripped specifically because it isn't getting signed

*edit* I see there was more argument where you just plainly believe it will happen. Commendations to your faith, but evidence is to the contrary imo. Of course money solves everything and that could change (fuck, give me 20mil and I'll face a steel pipe-armed Aspinal) but by the rules and standards of how booking normally goes, Jones doesn't want it.
 
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The fight between luffy, shadow mong and icemun to be the biggest and most ridiculous ass clown on this thread is stronger than the fight within Jon Jones these days
Being a Jones fan appeals to the type of people who like to troll by being stupid assholes for their own entertainment
 
Because Jones is the champ. And Aspinall wants to fight the so called best
Exactly. It's not hard.

"If you think you're the best, why not go and fight the guys who aren't the best? You know, instead of the guy everyone else is saying is the best?"

How does a functioning brain come up with this shit?
 
Come on bro, Aspinall has basically cleared the division, finished half the top ten including three of the top 5 all first round.

Gane keeps turning down chances to fight him and Jones content to sit on the belt.

Was 33 year old Volkov old or obese? How about Blaydes and Pavlovich?

I guess Jones did take out that young buck 42 year old Stipe.

Volkov was a decent win, sure, but let’s be real, Pavlovich and Blaydes aren’t on Gane’s level. Pavlovich pretty much throws the same loaded bombs over and over and if it doesn’t land, he doesn’t have much else, his fight IQ is subpar. And Blaydes? He’s a great wrestler, but you only need to nick his jaw and he goes to sleep. Even a rusty Gane took care of Volkov, it may not have been pretty.

The real annoying thing? Tom 's interviews. He talks like he’s the baddest dog in the yard, he drops lines like “I hate to blow my own trumpet, yet…” only to brag even harder five seconds later. Confidence is one thing, but the hype has gone to his head. Ngannou would sleep him and Jones would take him to school.
 
Volkov was a decent win, sure, but let’s be real, Pavlovich and Blaydes aren’t on Gane’s level. Pavlovich pretty much throws the same loaded bombs over and over and if it doesn’t land, he doesn’t have much else, his fight IQ is subpar. And Blaydes? He’s a great wrestler, but you only need to nick his jaw and he goes to sleep. Even a rusty Gane took care of Volkov, it may not have been pretty.

The real annoying thing? Tom 's interviews. He talks like he’s the baddest dog in the yard, he drops lines like “I hate to blow my own trumpet, yet…” only to brag even harder five seconds later. Confidence is one thing, but the hype has gone to his head. Ngannou would sleep him and Jones would take him to school.

Gane didn't "take care" of Volkov in the 2nd fight. It's not that it "wasn't pretty". It was an out and out robbery.

If you're annoyed by the best HW on the planet thinking he's the best...that's on you. He's the betting favorite over Jones. Ngannou is getting old too. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there.

I suppose with how you comically tried to frame Gane's recent "win" over Volkov i shouldn't be surprised.
 
rules and standards of how booking normally goes, Jones doesn't want it.
I've gone on earlier to acknowledge that. Yes you are correct but..... This is an extremely abnormal situation. Jones is on top of the game right now. REALLY on top of it, the most winningest fighter in UFC history with the most title wins NOW at the highest weightclass in the sport. We're talking about a 17 time ufc title winner who gains little from fighting aspinall, he's considered the goat invariably in most circles, This is not just any fight. This is the swan song of a fighter who has been champ since 23 years old and never toppled. His entire career has converged on this fight.

It's an exceedingly special circumstance when you have jones in the position he's in. the UFC would love NOTHING more than to transfer his star power to aspinall, Jones knows this.


UFC (and by proxy aspinall) need Jones more than he needs them. This is the exceptionally abnormal part. if you don't believe this is the truth, Look to Jones still holding the HW title as proof. If they didn't need him, they'd have stripped him by now. This is the first time someone is playing dirty negotiation tactics with the UFC, Someone who actually has the upper hand against dana and co. and for the first time we might see a guy in the UFC who doesn't draw -a crazy amount- like mcgregor, might make mcgregor(ish) money..... and as fans we hate it. Even though we've always acknowledged the hell and high water these fighters go through only to be chewed up and spit out by the promotion, without a nest egg to retire on. for ONCE we finally may not see that. I'm actually not the biggest fan of jon jones but if ANY mma fighter deserves to retire for all the work he's put it and never worry about money again it's jon jones.
 
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Tom would be wise to start looking for Francis money from PFL

PFL would also be wise to offer it, just those two would make it the best HW division in the sport

Ngannou bankrupted PFL, they can't afford Aspinall.
 
The guy who holds the belt is automatically number one, which doesn't mean much when the guy that holds the belt refuses to fight.
I'll take the guy with 5 top 10 wins in the first round over the guy with one good win in the division, over 2 years ago. Most fighters have openly said the same and view Tom as the legitimate heavyweight champion
LOL ya right.

Jones is the GOAT, beat the best 2 HWs, Tom is scared of Gane.
 
I've gone on earlier to acknowledge that. Yes you are correct but..... This is an extremely abnormal situation.
Only if you want it to be. We can all dance around with magic hats that say "Jon Jones' Legacy" on them, but I don't subscribe to the idea that it should take precedence over the belt, which you later call "the highest weightclass in the sport" as if to even further vault its status while continuing to minimize it below a single person. He could have the most and biggest legacy fights ever if he wanted... outside of the championship. It's not an accessory here.

Jones is on top of the game right now. REALLY on top of it, the most winningest fighter in UFC history
That's not true, he's in a 5 way tie for 5th place.

with the most title wins NOW at the highest weightclass in the sport.
But barely any of those wins in that actual weight class

We're talking about a 17 time ufc title winner who gains little from fighting aspinall,
No, you're talking about it. I'm talking about unifying belts.

he's considered the goat invariably in most circles, This is not just any fight.
By that logic, every Jon Jones fight is a special occasion. So they can put him into whatever momentous fight they want and the belt need not be attached. Then you can have him basically be holding the "GOAT belt" status where every fight is, "will he lose this time? (Hopefully not, because he's allowed to pick lesser challenges for it, because his legacy says so)"

This is the swan song of a fighter who has been champ since 23 years old and never toppled. His entire career has converged on this fight.
That's a bit grandiose. You're attaching an EXTREMELY biased amount of importance on this single fight by describing it like that. Jon has had an entire career. All careers start and end.

It's an exceedingly special circumstance when you have jones in the position he's in. the UFC would love NOTHING more than to transfer his star power to aspinall, Jones knows this.
Here's where things get really bullshit. I'm sorry, but Jones said his fight against Stipe was going to be his last and it was even bigger in terms of name value. So that would have been the fight where you'd expect this type of negotiation to happen, where he can really hold out for such a momentous clash of the GOAT vs HW GOAT.

So then can't Jon just keep saying every fight will be his last and continue to fight and you can just keep pulling this card out of your back pocket? Also, for the most part, pretty provably, "star power" does not transfer to any fighter for just beating a popular fighter. Definitely not with any staying power. To say that makes it sound like a conspiracy that they want him to lose to make Tom the star. I'd agree they are desperate for stars, but that doesn't mean this is an actual angle they can take.

UFC (and by proxy aspinall) need Jones more than he needs them. This is the exceptionally abnormal part. if you don't believe this is the truth, Look to Jones still holding the HW title as proof. If they didn't need him, they'd have stripped him by now.
So which is it? Before you said that the fact they haven't stripped him is evidence to the idea that the fight has loosely been worked out, but say now that it's evidence of their desperate need to get the fight signed. To me, the fact he hasn't been stripped only means that they think they can make the fight. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is the first time someone is playing dirty negotiation tactics with the UFC, Someone who actually has the upper hand against dana and co. and for the first time we might see a guy in the UFC who doesn't draw -a crazy amount- like mcgregor, might make mcgregor(ish) money..... and as fans we hate it.
Again though, it's not, because all of this easily could have been the argument before for the Stipe fight, but conveniently wasn't.

Even though we've always acknowledged the hell and high water these fighters go through only to be chewed up and spit out by the promotion, without a nest egg to retire on. for ONCE we finally may not see that. I'm actually not the biggest fan of jon jones but if ANY mma fighter deserves to retire for all the work he's put it and never worry about money again it's jon jones.
I mean, true, Jon has put his body through so much for this sport. Just imagine all the type of training and hard work and illicit and sometimes experimental substances he put into this. Who knows what kind of radiation he'll be peeing at 80?

Is this really championing fighter's rights here in any way? If he succeeds, then it really is no different than a McGregor situation, where the attention is "Only me." This isn't a guy who has gotten no favors by the brass for his entire fight history. It's not some guy who has been chewed up and spit out. It's a golden boy, regardless of his draw not being as high as other superstars, he is still one of their better draws, period. Especially in a time when they have so few. This isn't Joe Schmo getting the loving send off they deserve, it's the rich get richer. The favorite child who hasn't moved out yet is complaining that his Christmas gift isn't expensive enough.
 
So which is it? Before you said that the fact they haven't stripped him is evidence to the idea that the fight has loosely been worked out, but say now that it's evidence of their desperate need to get the fight signed. To me, the fact he hasn't been stripped only means that they think they can make the fight. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's both of course, One leading to the other

all i can really gather from your post is: Jon isn't special and shouldn't be an exception to the rules and precedences previously set. I disagree.

and in regards to stipe being "the fight" it was. but now the UFC wants this one and jones doesn't. stipe they both wanted. So no jones has to honey dick them into making the fight. Im sure he's fine either way but the UFC is desperate for this fight.
 

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