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Are you for or against electric vehicles?

Are you for or against electric vehicles?

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no fat chicks said:
Very pro.
I'm very surprised the libertarian types are so fervently against them. All you need is a solar panel or a wind turbine etc. You can be completely independent.
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It's not the cars that are the issue, like I said, I'm all for choice. It's the government mandates that I have a problem with.

ICE cars are silly out dated poor efficiency tech.
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How so, there's plenty of ICE vehicles that have amazing tech in them. You typically get what you pay for in a car. Unless, you're just referring to the propulsion method... which would make EV tech outdated as well since they've been around for just as long as the ICE car.
 
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MXZT said:
That seems like the way everything will go is electric when it comes vehicles I believe.


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I've had at least one EV in my household since 2017. Currently own a plug in hybrid and a full EV.
I'm more of a gadget than car guy, but they are incredibly fun to drive due to the instant torque. Personally, I also love the one pedal driving concept. It's like a video game.

Not having to go to a gas station is probably the single greatest benefit. I've also been charging off a regular wall outlet getting a measly 3 miles per hour charge rate, but it's been enough for my usage.
 
I'm for them, though I'm totally against this mandated "We will only produce electric vehicles by year XXXXX." There is a decent chance our next car will be electric, by choice, when we're looking for a new one hopefully a decade or so down the road. It'll depend on whether it actually suits are needs (we transit and ride bikes to work, only do groceries, social events, and long road trips by car). We'll assess when it's time and go from there. The reality is, they aren't great for long road trips right now, and I don't trust their ability to retain battery life in the cold, so I'll have to see how they work in Canada with more wide-scale usage. Ultimately though, I am for electric cars being an option, but dead against people being forced to use them.
 
I'm all for it, but I don't see myself buying one in the short term. I don't think they've got the technology figured out enough yet to be viable at scale, so I think a growing level of adoption is good.

I think we've got to get a better battery technology. A battery fire takes hours or days to put out. There are 6 million motor vehicle accidents a year. In an entirely electric world that could result in a lot of resource intensive battery fires.

I don't believe the grid is anywhere near ready for every house in the counrty to fast charge 2 or 3 cars every night. There are studies that show the gird could support a hundred million + cars "if propperly managed" but that's a pretty big IF in my opinion.

Ultimately in the long term electric cars will be better overall. They should eventually be much cheaper as well.
 
AristotleAmadopolis said:
ur saying the tesla runs better through water?
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You can drive a Tesla into some water and it won't stall out like a normal car. Elon famously posted on Twitter that Teslas can function temporarily underwater, but from people testing this on YT, it seems a problem is that they float, even when loaded down with a lot of weight. Also, some dude who drove his under 9 ft of water said his GPS and odometer stopped working afterwards. RIP.
 
I feel like electric is currently a good option for commuting locally. In the future, they will be better served with chargers for long distance trips.

Also, they are too expensive for the masses at the moment. They are mostly novelty items for upper middle class who have the resources to drop +$60k on a vehicle. If they can drop the price to $20k they will be attainable, but there's way too many people driving old sub$5,000 cars.

I wouldn't buy an EV as my primary vehicle because the planning necessary to take long road trips is too much of a hassle and I need a nice reliable gas car for that, so that's where I'll spend my money.
 
goatfarmer said:
I feel like electric is currently a good option for commuting locally. In the future, they will be better served with chargers for long distance trips.

Also, they are too expensive for the masses at the moment. They are mostly novelty items for upper middle class who have the resources to drop +$60k on a vehicle. If they can drop the price to $20k they will be attainable, but there's way too many people driving old sub$5,000 cars.

I wouldn't buy an EV as my primary vehicle because the planning necessary to take long road trips is too much of a hassle and I need a nice reliable gas car for that, so that's where I'll spend my money.
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The chevy bolt an be had for under 30k and close to 20k if you factor in the 7500 tax credit.

Agree with the part about road trips. Tesla's don't have that problem due to their amazing super charging network. I have not risked taking a long road trip with a non tesla EV.
 
We have an EV that is our daily driver. I work from home, so the wife uses it to go grocery shopping and to pick up the kids from school. We have never used a charging station and charge at home. We also have an ICE vehicle that gets driven about once a week. So if we need to drive a long distance or go on a road trip, we have that car to use. But everything for virtually everything else, we use the EV.

Like with any tech, it will eventually get better/more efficient. The mandates are really intended for big oil and tech companies to innovate into something better in the future. If not for that, they would be content with there $100+ billion quarterly profits until we've siphoned out all the oil out from the Earth. Then at that point, what we would we pivot to if we don't already have a viable alternative in place?
 
overall I'm for EVs, though against banning sales of ICE cars.

I am worried about how much more EV trucks weigh compared to their ICE counterpart. at least with current batteries (which could get lighter in the future hopefully), an EV truck can have an extra 2,000 pounds because of battery weight. Meaning extra damage when it hits another car. and God help anyone hit by the Hummer EV, weighing around 9,000 lbs! it will obliterate anyone in a sedan or light truck I imagine

https://www.reviewgeek.com/116061/a...-and-more-dangerous-than-traditional-pickups/
 
We're a 2 car family, so we're considering a EV for our next car. Most of the negative points about EV's are valid, but I think overblown. Some other points to consider
  • I believe most Cobalt comes from Congo, and China is trying to control the Supply chain. That being said, Tesla is developing non cobalt batteries, and there's a big push to find the next breakthrough battery tech (Solid state batteries, graphene, etc)
  • Power Grid may not be as big of an issue as most people think, most EV's charge at night when the rates are cheaper. Also economies of scale mean that for a lot of the power generation, you run it 24 hours a day and there's a lot less demand at night when EV's usually charge
  • Power Companies are experimenting with using things like electric school buses as batteries to draw power from them at peak times and recharge at night. Tesla and some local Power Companies are also experimenting with this to use your EV as a battery for the power company
  • Current battery packs estimates are expected to last ~150K- 200K. Once they hit the end of their useful, they'll still be at ~80% useful life and there are discussions to use them elsewhere
 
Cooz said:
The chevy bolt an be had for under 30k and close to 20k if you factor in the 7500 tax credit.

Agree with the part about road trips. Tesla's don't have that problem due to their amazing super charging network. I have not risked taking a long road trip with a non tesla EV.
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I guess I haven't been looking hard enough. I'll gonna go look at EVs now.
But, I will never buy another GM product, so a Bolt is off my list anyway.
 
TheWobbler said:
Lets see if that 15 minute cities project will take off.
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Thats honestly a great idea as committed as I am to ovethrowing the current order. 15 minutes might be a little exagarration but 30 minutes I think is perfectley reasonable. People should be able to get places quickly. No future generation should have to go through the suffering this generation of walkers did.
 
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