Elections Are we close to an uprising?

[LeonardoBjj]

Not a chance. Bellies are too full and plenty on the toob.

- It's america. They cant live without a giant portion of food.

 

[Barney Gumble]

and let's be honest this thread is unhinged and kinda creepy. some of you are probably on some lists by now lol

 

[gatchaman]

A fenced-in compound with 12 foot high razor wire fences, guard towers, and a bunker.

Or we could just stop electing fascists.

During the Cultural Revolution, my in-laws had a grocery store, but people with a greater capacity for violence took over ownership the store.

The in-laws were still allowed to be employees at the store because the violent people had no idea how to run a grocery store.

Is communism a better system than fascism?

 

[Mr Holmes]

America peaked in the 1990s.

We are in decline. Almost every measurable metric we can see is showing it. You say it is one of the best countries to live in, but for how long and in comparison to what?

Its not that bleak. Unemployment is relatively low, stock market at an all time high, we're still #1 in GDP, we're still #1 for top universities, healthcare and technology have advanced significantly, crime is way down compared to the 90s.

We're faring way better than the rest of the world. Europe is basically turning into a 3rd world anarcho-tyranny.

 

[aerius]

Damn, lot of fiery and valid critiques. Reinforces what I like to say the West's obsession with markets so much so that it has turned society into a market first with a society tacked on second. Fewer and fewer places are what they should be, societies with a market.

The part about the arts and music is very telling - turning it into brain chemistry analysis for what sounds will poke the brain the right way for short term engagement. Now everything is being designed for short-term engagement and no depth.

This goes into human relationships as it becomes harder and harder to find people that are capable of anything resembling sophisticated conversation. And AI Slop may be getting better, but reality is people's communication is also being brought down to AI Slop levels. AI Slop now competing with Human Slop. Which slop will win? What a time to be alive.

Was watching Tom Dillon (a comedian) on DOAC podcast, and he said something so true.... the whole influencer sphere around buying shit like recommending beauty products or wellness pills just needs to disappear and be replaced by AI. It's not because the AI is so great, it's what he said, these are the MOST boring and vapid people imaginable. These are the people the young generations aspires to be. The volunteering of self-lobotomization of the population and people turning into shells of "real" people. These folks, and those that look up to them, cannot and will not change anything in society for the better.

I was just thinking about a conversation I had with a co-worker from the former Soviet Union around 20-25 years ago, he said "a society or culture dies when it can no longer create beauty". I didn't really get what he was trying to explain to me at the time since I was fresh out of school and in full workaholic mode, but as I started understanding the arts better it started to click.

I'll stick to music since it's what I know best. I'm a child of the 80s which was the decade of rock excess, many parents of the day claimed it was the worst thing ever and it was held in the same regard as rap, electronica, and grunge in later decades. But even if you look at the big acts like Metallica or GnR you'll find many songs which have much deeper and more profound meanings, for instance, One, Disposable Hero, and Civil War are all anti-war songs which describe not only the horrors of war, but also how the government & CIA instigate conflicts so they can profit off it at our expense. Madonna's Like a Prayer can be interpreted as how -priests made children get on their knees and suck their cocks, it was an early warning for the scandals which would wrack the Catholic church. Dire Straight's Money for Nothing, well, that's pretty self-evident. It was good music which also delivered warnings, messages, and said a lot about the society of the time. The music was alive & real.

What do we have today? Taylor Swift singing about her 64th breakup. And unless my daughter's lying to me, all of her music is basically about how she sucks at relationships. It's pure programmed crap, made solely to create an image and sell slop.

Which brings me to back to the beginning and also covers your point on human relationships. Could I have the same conversation today with a 22 year old kid that early 20s me had with the older Soviet co-worker? Even though I didn't get it at the time, I was able to listen, ask questions, and try to understand what he really means and why. He was trying to explain a concept which was completely new to me so I had no context to really understand it, it was an interesting idea which sounded reasonably logical but I'd never heard anything like that before. I don't even know how I can begin to have a conversation like this with most adults my age, never mind a fresh out of college kid. And the strange thing is, abstract conversations like this were quite common in my circle of friends when I was in my 20s. But then it just died around 10 years ago, and I can only talk about these things in real life with a very small group of close friends. Weird AF now that I think about it.

 

[heloder]

Is communism a better system than fascism?

Well yes, but both are complete shit, so I'm not sure why you bring it up.

 

[gatchaman]

Well yes, but both are complete shit, so I'm not sure why you bring it up.

Authoritarian Left is also known as communism
Authoritarian Right is also known as fascism
Libertarian Right is also known as feudalism
Libertarian Left is also known as anarchy

Do you have a preference?

 

[oldshadow]

Look at this idiot LARPer.

Hey, how useful is your arsenal going to be when your house gets torched in the middle of the night while you sleep? Or when you get beaned in the back of the head by a rock when you're not looking?

Go outside and touch grass, Mr. Internet Tough Guy.

You dont think people on the right would know how to make all kinds of explosive and such.

You are living in a fantasy world from on line games.

 

[heloder]

Authoritarian Left is also known as communism
Authoritarian Right is also known as fascism
Libertarian Right is also known as feudalism
Libertarian Left is also known as anarchy

Do you have a preference?

No...I'm not an extremist.

 

[heloder]

You dont think people on the right would know how to make all kinds of explosive and such.

You are living in a fantasy world from on line games.

 

[gatchaman]

No...I'm not an extremist.

You are avoiding the question. If you don't want a label then pick a color: Red, blue, yellow, or green?

 

[oldshadow]

No missed my point. The rock thing is stupid.

Yes I agree the left can be violent and burn shit we saw this after Flyod. However if it kicks off something like the troubles who do you think is going to get the worst of it.

 

[heloder]

You are avoiding the question. If you don't want a label then pick a color: Red, blue, yellow, or green?

You: Do you have a preference?

Me: No.

You: You're avoiding the question!

 

[heloder]

No missed my point. The rock thing is stupid.

What exactly is your point? What do you mean by "the rock thing is stupid"? Are you saying that you're immune to getting hit in the head by a rock or something?

I know your goal here is to make it sound like "your side" totally has the advantage and would definitely pwn the "other side", but my point—which you're oblivious to—is that all this civil war fantasy bullshit is just that. Neither "side" is prepared to live like that, and the conservative power fantasy of them being some faction to be reckoned with is retarded beyond belief.

This isn't the North vs South. You have no idea who is even with you or against you in the real world. And do you know what? When it comes down to survival—the ones you think are with you? They'll murder you and your family for the shit you have. Even if they spent the last decade gargling Trump's balls.

You live in a fantasy world.

 

[gatchaman]

You: Do you have a preference?

Me: No.

You: You're avoiding the question!

Is communism better than fascism?

 

[oldshadow]

What exactly is your point? What do you mean by "the rock thing is stupid"? Are you saying that you're immune to getting hit in the head by a rock or something?

I know your goal here is to make it sound like "your side" totally has the advantage and would definitely pwn the "other side", but my point—which you're oblivious to—is that all this civil war fantasy bullshit is just that. Neither "side" is prepared to live like that, and the conservative power fantasy of them being some faction to be reckoned with is retarded beyond belief.

This isn't the North vs South. You have no idea who is even with you or against you in the real world. And do you know what? When it comes down to survival—the ones you think are with you? They'll murder you and your family for the shit you have. Even if they spent the last decade gargling Trump's balls.

You live in a fantasy world.

I told how it would be. Not a open civil war but like the troubles in Ireland only a hell off a lot worse. So we agree on that. How it would look and how you would know your enemy would depend on where you lived in would guess.

 

[Romulas]

Bread and circuses didnt prevent the fall of Rome

It definitely prolonged it though.

We're in the beginning stages of "Bread and Circuses."

It'll be time to worry when the small time millionaires ($1-10m) begin to move to historically less desirable countries. I'm not sure if that will be in our lifetime but it will definitely be in our children's lifetimes.

I started planning when covid restrictions stretched outside the parameters that I deemed acceptable.

 

[Sinister]

thats the best news i've heard in a while. it's amazing how people that look like this:

think they have superior genetics.

It's also notable that his chief criticism surrounds reformism. For a guy who was so enamoured with the boldness of FDR, he sure didnt pay a lot of attention to how FDR did what he did as a vot ofnit had to do with the appointment of Adminstrators so aggressive it would make Mamdani blush.

Fascism is baseline characterized by the marriage of Corporation and State. That's obviously what this Administration and the Broligarchy want. FDR restored the contentious relationship between Government and Corporation, theyve never forgiven him for it, and they're poised to take it out on all of us. But theyve always feared the proletariat. Yarvin wanted Trump to dismantle Congress and the Judiciary and replace then with subservient departments, scrap the constitution and outlaw all dissent. Musk and Cuckerberg could censor speech in a heartbeat (they already do), Bezos can hold Americans hostage with the threat of non-delivery of goods, Thiel feeds them all our data, they rob real money from the economy with cryptocurrency and other scams...all this could come to pass and they'd still be sh*tting their pants at the thought of a large crowd overwhelming their security measures. And they're right to do so as that would happen.

 

[fingercuffs]

I told how it would be. Not a open civil war but like the troubles in Ireland only a hell off a lot worse. So we agree on that. How it would look and how you would know your enemy would depend on where you lived in would guess.

Were you saying these things 10 years ago?

 

[Sinister]

It definitely prolonged it though.

We're in the beginning stages of "Bread and Circuses."

It'll be time to worry when the small time millionaires ($1-10m) begin to move to historically less desirable countries. I'm not sure if that will be in our lifetime but it will definitely be in our children's lifetimes.

I started planning when covid restrictions stretched outside the parameters that I deemed acceptable.

I dont think we're in the beginning of it. The beginning of it was the 80's. Reagan dismantled so much Government, crushed the Middle Class, and we were all pacified with sitcoms and consumer options.

That sh*t isn't working so well right now.

What was wrong with covid safety measures was the working class paid for them, including with deaths. The wealthy got all the Government support they could need and got away with fraud. 18 months isnt a long time to pay your people to not kill each other and we dumped a trillion down Wall Street for no reason.

Less restrictive places didnt have much better results. Hell our Hospitals in Vegas were full of Arizonans because of their lack of restriction. A female fighter I used to train who is a BKFC Champion was secretly going down there to spar and ended up with double pneumonia. When I got the Rona it was because of her.