Elections Are we close to an uprising?

Mr Holmes said:
Its not that bleak. Unemployment is relatively low, stock market at an all time high, we're still #1 in GDP, we're still #1 for top universities, healthcare and technology have advanced significantly, crime is way down compared to the 90s.

We're faring way better than the rest of the world. Europe is basically turning into a 3rd world anarcho-tyranny.
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as long as you don't look at the details, everything is great!
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Siver! said:
Incredible.

Do you know how they manage to fund so much protest? Soros must be broke now, whose picking up the slack, any ideas?
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new plank in town...same as the old plank..
 
Sinister said:
I dont think we're in the beginning of it. The beginning of it was the 80's. Reagan dismantled so much Government, crushed the Middle Class, and we were all pacified with sitcoms and consumer options.

That sh*t isn't working so well right now.

What was wrong with covid safety measures was the working class paid for them, including with deaths. The wealthy got all the Government support they could need and got away with fraud. 18 months isnt a long time to pay your people to not kill each other and we dumped a trillion down Wall Street for no reason.

Less restrictive places didnt have much better results. Hell our Hospitals in Vegas were full of Arizonans because of their lack of restriction. A female fighter I used to train who is a BKFC Champion was secretly going down there to spar and ended up with double pneumonia. When I got the Rona it was because of her.
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Oh. The changes causing the decline definitely began in the 1980s and are continuing current day. Into the 90's the American dream was still alive and kicking to some magnitude. I'm 42 and everyone that I know who isn't a total retard was able to buy a house. Now that's no longer the case.

There was a lot wrong with covid. It was the largest wealth transfer in world history. We were due for a massive correction and I speculate thay world govs went to hard with the printing presses to inject more $$$ into the system so the debt house of cards didn't crumble.

In NY our Hospital's weren't bad outside of the initial 8 weeks of hysteria but the news made them seem like they were on the verge of collapse. A lot of Federal dollars were handed out and overcompensating to justify the expenditures was evident.


That being said we're no where near an uprising. I'm the type that gets excited over the possibility of bedlam and civil unrest. We aren't even seeing those who can flee leave yet.
 
Crazy Source said:
Is it possible? We have the right to bear arms. If enough of the population revolts is there any way to make a difference in politics?
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SNAP benefits end on Nov. 1. Lack of food tends to be a serious issue for the people. And it is unlikely that a deal will be reached in Congress by then.
 
Netflix, video games, sports, relatively cheap food compared to most of the world. It ain’t happening unless we starve or we’re bored as fuck
 
aerius said:
I was just thinking about a conversation I had with a co-worker from the former Soviet Union around 20-25 years ago, he said "a society or culture dies when it can no longer create beauty". I didn't really get what he was trying to explain to me at the time since I was fresh out of school and in full workaholic mode, but as I started understanding the arts better it started to click.

I'll stick to music since it's what I know best. I'm a child of the 80s which was the decade of rock excess, many parents of the day claimed it was the worst thing ever and it was held in the same regard as rap, electronica, and grunge in later decades. But even if you look at the big acts like Metallica or GnR you'll find many songs which have much deeper and more profound meanings, for instance, One, Disposable Hero, and Civil War are all anti-war songs which describe not only the horrors of war, but also how the government & CIA instigate conflicts so they can profit off it at our expense. Madonna's Like a Prayer can be interpreted as how :eek::eek::eek::eek:-priests made children get on their knees and suck their cocks, it was an early warning for the scandals which would wrack the Catholic church. Dire Straight's Money for Nothing, well, that's pretty self-evident. It was good music which also delivered warnings, messages, and said a lot about the society of the time. The music was alive & real.

What do we have today? Taylor Swift singing about her 64th breakup. And unless my daughter's lying to me, all of her music is basically about how she sucks at relationships. It's pure programmed crap, made solely to create an image and sell slop.

Which brings me to back to the beginning and also covers your point on human relationships. Could I have the same conversation today with a 22 year old kid that early 20s me had with the older Soviet co-worker? Even though I didn't get it at the time, I was able to listen, ask questions, and try to understand what he really means and why. He was trying to explain a concept which was completely new to me so I had no context to really understand it, it was an interesting idea which sounded reasonably logical but I'd never heard anything like that before. I don't even know how I can begin to have a conversation like this with most adults my age, never mind a fresh out of college kid. And the strange thing is, abstract conversations like this were quite common in my circle of friends when I was in my 20s. But then it just died around 10 years ago, and I can only talk about these things in real life with a very small group of close friends. Weird AF now that I think about it.
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Yes, would add to your music references that love and beauty go hand in hand and are deeply interconnected.... lot of those hair band rock bands actually could - and did - write wonderful legit love songs when they wanted to. Not often, but they could. I think true love songs now are super rare. Actually, to see if I am just getting old, I asked AI and it says it's true. Lust, empowerment, greed, sex without commitment has taken over. It's how society has "evolved". Preoccupation with body count, like actors in your own personal pornos is the question of one's worth, with disregard for counting how many people you loved, and how many people have loved you. Perhaps those latter questions just make people too uncomfortable because they are too depressing for far too many people, so concentrating on body count (which perhaps not by coincidence are easier to lie about) helps protect the ego.

The thing about USSR and places of weaker economic mobility is that one's word becomes one's value in interpersonal relationships when economics is hopeless -- and liars get ostracized. When you get to western consumption based worlds, it's not one's word, it's how much money you have. Like if put on a graph, Western world is like super poor countries, except super poor folks lie and steal to survive and secure base necessities, whereas in the first world it is done for greed purposes. It's also a reason why more than ever many locations push back against tourists, because the visitors at an interpersonal level have largely become insufferable. Not insufferable in a "stealing" kind of way like poor gypsies and destitute immigrants from dilapidated countries, but insufferable at an interpersonal level nonetheless.

One can also note what seems to be a trend in the consumption based western world of increasing social acceptance of all behavior that can drive consumption. "Making money in sleazy ways" had strong elements of ostracism. But gambling, prostitution, vulgarity, web camming, degrading deviant porn, attention whoring, drugs etc all seeing greater acceptance... which also ties into the point of society not creating beauty any more.

I could ramble on this topic forever, so I better stop now but will just say I view the western world at being in a very interesting place because I think late stage capitalism is getting to a point where the material rewards of economic growth now are largely being outweighed by cultural decline -- a degradation of ethics, family, friendship, love, and civility. I will most likely be dead, but it's going to be very interesting to see where people go from here.
 
I would hope not. It's not that I wouldn't support overthrow of this gov't, but i think the average human psyche at this stage of the game is too warped to organize, coordinate, and sustain the conditions required for a regime change without widespread chaos and not much progress.
 
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