Are liberals really empathetic or do they just want to destroy middle class?

[Greoric]

are you really that dense that we need to spell it out for you?

Humor me then. Without a compulsory funded monopoly, would there be people that want to travel in between communities?

 

[MilesAbove]

Wait... so this presupposes the two options are: "I want to help" or "I want to destroy"

Everyone thinks they're on the correct side. It's how effective bad actors are at creating useful idiots for nefarious ends that define who is right/wrong.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Humor me then. Without a compulsory funded monopoly, would there be people that want to travel in between communities?

na mate, humouring you is a painful experience as you take no information in.

educate yourself, then get back to us afterwards

 

[Greoric]

Wait... so this presupposes the two options are: "I want to help" or "I want to destroy"

Everyone thinks they're on the correct side. It's how effective bad actors are at creating useful idiots for nefarious ends that define who is right/wrong.

The conflation on the left (read up @MayhemMonkey) is that if the state isn't doing it in the form of a program then it wouldn't be done, and the people that oppose that program don't want it done... a mental disease.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

The conflation on the left (read up @MayhemMonkey) is that if the state isn't doing it in the form of a program then it wouldn't be done, and the people that oppose that program don't want it done... a mental disease.

thats a lovely misinterpretation of my views, but again you are a brain dead anarchist so thats not so surprising

 

[franklinstower]

I think the issue is really what is the “middle class” my wife and I earned 300k+ jointly in 2018 and we’re not living the high life. I would say I’d be comfortable with raising taxes on 400k+ joint earners but below that doesn’t feel right.

That's how everyone thinks. Just raise it on those who make more then me. Meanwhile 75k a year and up on average is as much money as most people will ever need. Some exceptions for expensive states and areas.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Yes, I'm a user of a product I'm an obligate customer of. Therefore what?

Your question has been answered. Now go take a rest before your head explodes

 

[Greoric]

na mate, humouring you is a painful experience as you take no information in.

educate yourself, then get back to us afterwards

Reads like projection mate. I'm up for correction, and always am. I'm just up for correction when good arguments are in play. You, on the other hand, have a hypersensitivity reaction to conflicting data. That's a rather bad allergy to have.

 

[Greoric]

Your question has been answered. Now go take a rest before your head explodes

Not an argument.

 

[Greoric]

thats a lovely misinterpretation of my views, but again you are a brain dead anarchist so thats not so surprising

Then you agree things get done outside of state compulsion?

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Reads like projection mate. I'm up for correction, and always am. I'm just up for correction when good arguments are in play. You, on the other hand, have a hypersensitivity reaction to conflicting data. That's a rather bad allergy to have.

what conflicting data do you ever provide? Im still waiting on those nationwide dgu numbers from the last thread, yet you refused and stopped responding. Yet when I provided a comparison of the murder rates in both nations you immediately refused to accept those

debating you is like debating a brick wall, you view taxation as theft. So I personally have no interest in arguing the benefits of public services with you

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Liberals won't be happy until the U.S. becomes a third-world country, and Americans become refugees and asylum seekers in who-knows-what country(ies).

Don't forget white genocide. That's #1 on the list.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Then you agree things get done outside of state compulsion?

things get done, but do they get done for the benefit of the public?

 

[Greoric]

Don't forget white genocide. That's #1 on the list.

That's another acceptable consequence, just not the objective.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Don't forget white genocide. That's #1 on the list.

That's another acceptable consequence, just not the objective.

 

[Greoric]

things get done, but do they get done for the benefit of the public?

Yes. When living standards rise because of more efficient production and allocation of resources that benefits the public. In fact, there's only one economic organization that's benefited the public to the extent that it lifted people out of certain poverty.... decentralized markets.

 

[Greoric]

No great conspiracy required. Just sheep like you.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Yes. When living standards rise because of more efficient production and allocation of resources that benefits the public. In fact, there's only one economic organization that's benefited the public to the extent that it lifted people out of certain poverty.... decentralized markets.

what do you consider as "for the benefit of the public"?? No private business allocates and distributes resources for the public good, they do so to make a profit. So try again

 

[MayhemMonkey]

No great conspiracy required. Just sheep like you.

keep playing the victim lol

 

[Greoric]

what conflicting data do you ever provide? Im still waiting on those nationwide dgu numbers from the last thread, yet you refused and stopped responding. Yet when I provided a comparison of the murder rates in both nations you immediately refused to accept those

debating you is like debating a brick wall, you view taxation as theft. So I personally have no interest in arguing the benefits of public services with you

You got the data. You're just trying to save face here. You don't state why nationwide numbers are a requisite. Why would the millions of people they gathered data from for defensive and offensive gun use from multiple states be an underpowered piece of literature?

And by the way my predictions were correct. If you weren't convinced by the ethics of the argument, there wasn't a snowflakes chance in hell you'd be convinced by the empiricism.