Are liberals really empathetic or do they just want to destroy middle class?

[HIMBOB]

With the amount of buzz kill you dweebs produce I wouldn't be surprised if this actually happened from everyone giving up on procreation.

Keep producing incel, self hating soy boys and overweight vagina hat wearing #metoonenists and it will come true.

Liberalism is like the chastity belt of ideologies. Even if you identify as a leftist and truly beleive it's the better way atleast admit how much of a boner kill it is.

It's like sex repellent.

If the suffering of others gets you off I think you should seek help.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

If the suffering of others gets you off I think you should seek help.

What?

 

[Prutfis]

Thank goodness libertarians have almost no say in our government.

Imagine how awful this world would be if we followed their mantra that has never existed anywhere on earth. Lol.

Everything is all theoretical because nothing they believe has actually been put into play. Free markets have never existed and never will exist. It’s a pipe dream

At least communism (Marx) looked good on paper. Libertardianism doesn´t even have that.

 

[Prutfis]

I know a good reason why.

Me.

My sister and brother.

My mum got cancer, got treated by Universal health care and supported us on welfare. Now between my sister and I we pay over $50k pa in tax.

Having social safety nets keeps in the middle class and ensures better tax receipts in the future.

He is like the new Shitskater. Just save your money and live healthy. No accidents will ever happen and you will have saved up for that 2 million $ cancer treatment in no time. He also seems to not know how every type of insurance works.

With these alone

3 cancer cases
Several car crashes (2 severe)
1 PTSD case
1 severe depression
A 6 year old 3rd degree burned on 55% of his body (nephew)
Allergies pretty much all of us

I bet our family would be just peachy in the US

 

[MayhemMonkey]

who would be laughing ?

well unless Scotland becomes independent sometime soon not me lol

 

[Greoric]

So you think that liberals, progressives, etc etc. Think that we will all be rich? Is that what you think? Thats the dumbest shit I've ever seen. I don't know anyone that has leftist views that thinks that. I have had conversations with republicans that thought that way though.

In absolute terms, pretty much, everyone in the US is rich as compared to fucking emperors 400 years ago. Decentralized markets have that affect, yes.

 

[Greoric]

At least communism (Marx) looked good on paper. Libertardianism doesn´t even have that.

Not legitimizing coercion doesn't look good to you on paper? Hey there sociopath.

 

[Ortegoat]

He is like the new Shitskater. Just save your money and live healthy. No accidents will ever happen and you will have saved up for that 2 million $ cancer treatment in no time. He also seems to not know how every type of insurance works.

With these alone

3 cancer cases
Several car crashes (2 severe)
1 PTSD case
1 severe depression
A 6 year old 3rd degree burned on 55% of his body (nephew)
Allergies pretty much all of us

I bet our family would be just peachy in the US

So basically middle class pays for a catastrophic cancer/car crash plan for 500 bucks a month 7,000 deductible and have to live as healthy as they can because their insurance doesn’t cover anything, can’t see a doctor unless you want to pay and medication is all out of pocket.

Meanwhile, bums get free meds, free doctor visits, and anything they would ever need for themselves and their 8 indiscriminate children. Also get free public education, free food, oh and food stamps.

Oh and if you can’t speak English and recently immigrated with no skills, don’t worry. We will send you to a community college and you can take out student loans you will never pay back and tax payers will end up footing the bill for that as well. Or maybe they can just drive Uber’s around

Edit: 500/month 7000 deductible is if your single. If it’s an Obamacare two person plan like 900/month 14k deductible. Family plan is like 1,200-2,000/month with absurd deductibles. Basically you’re just paying for other people’s free healthcare is all and you go without

 

[m25105]

So basically middle class pays for a catastrophic cancer/car crash plan for 500 bucks a month 7,000 deductible and have to live as healthy as they can because their insurance doesn’t cover anything, can’t see a doctor unless you want to pay and medication is all out of pocket.

Meanwhile, bums get free meds, free doctor visits, and anything they would ever need for themselves and their 8 indiscriminate children. Also get free public education, free food, oh and food stamps.

Oh and if you can’t speak English and recently immigrated with no skills, don’t worry. We will send you to a community college and you can take out student loans you will never pay back and tax payers will end up footing the bill for that as well. Or maybe they can just drive Uber’s around

Edit: 500/month 7000 deductible is if your single. If it’s an Obamacare two person plan like 900/month 14k deductible. Family plan is like 1,200-2,000/month with absurd deductibles. Basically you’re just paying for other people’s free healthcare is all and you go without

Or you could just have free healthcare for everyone. If you can spend hundreds of billions on your military, you can also spend some of that money to ensure that everyone can go to the hospital without second guessing themselves if they will be financially ruined.

 

[ultramanhyata]

What about the invisible hand? Econ much?

Here's a not-so-invisible hand. Just for you.

 

[Greoric]

Or you could just have free healthcare for everyone.

How are you going to get clinicians to practice full time without paying them?

 

[m25105]

How are you going to get clinicians to practice full time without paying them?

The state pays them through taxes.

 

[Greoric]

I know a good reason why.

Me.

My sister and brother.

My mum got cancer, got treated by Universal health care and supported us on welfare. Now between my sister and I we pay over $50k pa in tax.

Having social safety nets keeps in the middle class and ensures better tax receipts in the future.

So are you interested in the HC system that allocates scarce resources most efficiently to everyone, or are you just interested in an anecdotal example of your family member getting HC once?

 

[Greoric]

The state pays them through taxes.

Oh... So then its not free.

 

[lfd0311]

Yeah, that's why liberal Europe has no middle class and their healthcare system is in crisis mode resulting in 60000 opioid death per year.
Everyone knows that the best way to help the middle class is giving tax cuts to the rich.

Whoa.... We should totally make drugs illegal....

 

[lfd0311]

I for one think you're an idiot. but that is based purely on the content of your post in this thread.

When you can't actually respond to points, just call names. Solid posting.

 

[SaiWa]

When you can't actually respond to points, just call names. Solid posting.

when the post is devoid of all facts I tend to not mince words with my responses.

 

[LEXER1]

This shouldnt be a liberal/conservative issue. It's a human issue.
The last sentence in your post says it all. I for one do care about other people and would gladly have my taxes redistributed so less fortunate Americans can afford to have neccessary procedures or medications. Take money from politicians. Take money from police. Take money from the military and redistribute it. Dont even have to raise taxes.

 

[lfd0311]

when the post is devoid of all facts I tend to not mince words with my responses.

In what way was it devoid of facts?

 

[SaiWa]

In what way was it devoid of facts?

lol. If I have to argue about the merits of that post with you then I know exactly in which camp you're arguing from. I see no point in it. if you really are THAT interested I am sure you can do a search of my posting history with ACA and Obamacare. I am not shy about this topic but it's been beaten to death 50 billion times in here already.