Are fighters gaming the rules as well as they could?

[The Boomerang]

I just watched Garry poke Belal twice and didn’t get a point taken

The competitor in me would be getting at least 2 eye pokes back

If my opponent can get 2 eye pokes why can’t eye?

This would also put pressure on refs to shut down fouls early

Aspinall could had just poked Cereal back

Can’t take a point…you’re allowing it

 

[surgeyou1]

The second one wasnt a poke. He didn't even extend his fingers.

 

[The Boomerang]

You kick me in the nuts and they don’t take a point…

I’m kicking you in the nuts back

 

[Söze Aldo]

The second poke was more an indictment of the UFC’s shitty glove design than of Ian.

 

[Nobru]

IMHO

1st eyepoke, 1 point deduction
2nd eyepoke, DQ loss

I bet you wont see eyepokes ever again. Fighters are perfectly aware and still do it, cause of no real penalties.

 

[The Boomerang]

1 poke 2 pokes
69 pokes

It don’t matter

No points are taken

Get your foul back

 

[Rdude92]

The second one wasnt a poke. He didn't even extend his fingers.

The second one was an attempt or was a really sneaky move by Ian to make Belal fearful of the eyepoke.
Because that was clearly not an attempt to strike

 

[bjjwar]

You kick me in the nuts and they don’t take a point…

I’m kicking you in the nuts back

Yeah i dont get how there is no retaliation. I’d even try to do it twice as bad. You poke me in the eye, i would literally try to shove my fists into both of your eyes and would not keep fighting normally till i did that.

 

[DrTrouble]

Fighters are stupid not to use the free eye pokes and groin shot allowed. Fans will turn on the guy that got fouled saying he's a quitter if he chooses not to continue.

Can't see the downside. Risk reward is worth it.

 

[The Boomerang]

Yeah i dont get how there is no retaliation. I’d even try to do it twice as bad. You poke me in the eye, i would literally try to shove my fists into both of your eyes and would not keep fighting normally till i did that.

Exactly
What can the ref do

The rule clearly isn’t black and white and open to interpretation

In most sports the rules are twisted and moulded by its competitors to benefit them

I feel fighters are not doing the same

If you’re so reluctant to take a point it’s open season

 

[whocares]

The UFC is complicit in this shit. Let's just accept that the strategic eye poke is part of the game plan. If you ain't pokin' you jokin'

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

The UFC is complicit in this shit. Let's just accept that the strategic eye poke is part of the game plan. If you ain't pokin' you jokin'

The guys who get away with fouls are probably the ones UFC chose to win the fight.

 

[jeff7b9]

You kick me in the nuts and they don’t take a point…

I’m kicking you in the nuts back

An eye for a nut is the solution...


I'm not sure the world is ready for it.

But this is the way. This is fair.

You poke eye, he kicks your junk.
Start the timer... for both.
At 5 min either you fight or you lose.

 

[El Fernas]

2nd wasnt a poke tho, weird move, but no eye poke.

The thing with eye pokes, you continue or you dont, if you "cant see" (true or not), you might not be able to give it back, and if you cant see, you are at a disadvantage for the rest of the fight, even if you poke back.

You have a point tho, eye pokes go unpunished in MMA, or fouls in general. Ian Garry might have saved himself from the 2nd eye poke, but he moved his hand with fingers stretched out a lot on this fight, a lot.

 

[VAfan]

Fighters are stupid not to use the free eye pokes and groin shot allowed.

i'm sure they do but they would never admit it. or at the very least, they aren't concerned with being too careful with placement when they know damn well nothing will come of the foul.

which is why they need to start taking points right off the bat. otherwise might as well just legalize eyepokes and nutshots and just be honest about it.

 

[VAfan]

An eye for a nut is the solution...


I'm not sure the world is ready for it.

But this is the way. This is fair.

You poke eye, he kicks your junk.
Start the timer... for both.
At 5 min either you fight or you lose.

powerslap knows the way.

eye poke or nut shot, you stand in front of your opponent and he gets to slap you as hard as he can.

powerslap is way ahead of its time.

 

[jeff7b9]

powerslap knows the way.

eye poke or nut shot, you stand in front of your opponent and he gets to slap you as hard as he can.

powerslap is way ahead of its time.

Until they bring in backhanded pimp slaps they are not far enough ahead of their time



for me...


Personally.