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Not exactly but for this type of person that’s what will happen. I do think people dramatically underestimate how much progress can be made naturally
Are Anabolic Steroids worth it?
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Not enough to get abs, muscles and chest and neck gains
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I'm talking about this guy exclusively.
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"Worth it" completely depends on the individual.
The only reasonable answer is that someone should be knowledgeable and aware of the broad range of expected and potential effects and side effects before they start putting anything in their body, which most people aren't.
There is no cookie cutter answer to this question.
The only reasonable answer is that someone should be knowledgeable and aware of the broad range of expected and potential effects and side effects before they start putting anything in their body, which most people aren't.
There is no cookie cutter answer to this question.
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Given my previous reply and now reading the OP, you definitely should not use steroids. Hopefully this is a troll post.
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345 bench. Hadn’t even joined a powerlifting gym yet to get proper training regimen in place. To get much higher than this I had to get fat. It was that or a bunch of gear. Fortunately I never got carried away with either and could rope it back in. You can absolutely make huge strides without gear
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Agreed. The average woman in the US is 5 foot 3 almost 170lbs.....
Shouldn't be that hard looks wise to get an above average looking woman. I couldn't imagine someone having a stable career, a little bit of personality, and dress nice struggle to get dates. Especially when the average dude now a days puts in zero effort, it's just dick picks or "uhh come over to my place".
Most women (women not college tik tok girls) if they saw a picture of you dressed nice talking to a crowd on a stage or a picture of you shirtless on steroids would majority take the first picture.
There's way more to physical attraction then just muscles. If your having to take anabolic steroids to get attention or get noticed then you've already mentally lost the battle.
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Eh plenty of guys struggle even with careers, hobbies or whatever but thats just life
From what i noticed problem generally is lack of exposure, basically guys never meet women anywhere. Male dominated job plus male dominated hobby and things start to get complicated.
Knew a guy from my mma gym back in day who got his first gf at 36, he was deemed ugly and wasnt charismatic speaker either so what the hell. Played cards as well as he could
Anyway he said main thing is exposure, attend every single event where people are around and you can meet them and thats been my experience as well.
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i agree completely. Muscles doesnt make a man. You can still be a pussy with big muscles. And you can be skinny but carry yourself like a boss. Big pecs and a sixpack will not make a man out of you
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Everyone in this thread spewing truth and TS refusing to listen SMDH. Gear won't make you look like fucking C-bum unless your training, diet (and genetics) are already dialed in. Have trained around plenty of guys on gear and a lot of them still look like shit. I even did a cycle in late 20's to see what it was about (after training properly for 10+ years and after I was done competing in combat sports), and it won't make a damn lick of difference with women if you're not already confident with people skills. I didn't even want to finish the cycle and it convinced me to stay natty.
Go to the gym regularly. If you're starting from skinny fat, do a full body program 3 days/week like Stronglifts 5x5. It's free, hard to fuck up and it works very well:
stronglifts.com
If you're already fat, don't overeat. Just eat healthy and get enough sleep. You can do cardio or another sport on the side if you want, especially the first month when the weights will feel light. If you stick with it, you'll be amazed how much stronger you will get in 3 months. And you'll feel awesome, better than on gear.
Women are attracted to dudes with confidence, and the best way to build that confidence is to consistently take pride in your own growth, development and achievement. Getting on gear when you don't even know how to train yet is the opposite of that.
Go to the gym regularly. If you're starting from skinny fat, do a full body program 3 days/week like Stronglifts 5x5. It's free, hard to fuck up and it works very well:
Stronglifts 5×5: The Complete Workout Guide [2025] | Stronglifts
The best 5×5 workout guide on the entire Internet. Discover how to build strength and muscle doing only three full body workouts per week.
stronglifts.com
If you're already fat, don't overeat. Just eat healthy and get enough sleep. You can do cardio or another sport on the side if you want, especially the first month when the weights will feel light. If you stick with it, you'll be amazed how much stronger you will get in 3 months. And you'll feel awesome, better than on gear.
Women are attracted to dudes with confidence, and the best way to build that confidence is to consistently take pride in your own growth, development and achievement. Getting on gear when you don't even know how to train yet is the opposite of that.
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Just know that if you get on steroids you might not ever get back off and its going to cost you dearly in more ways than one. You can accomplish what you want naturally and much cheaper.
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Not a troll post.
So you think I am just risking too much?
Not worth it at all?
Everyone in this thread spewing truth and TS refusing to listen SMDH. Gear won't make you look like fucking C-bum unless your training, diet (and genetics) are already dialed in. Have trained around plenty of guys on gear and a lot of them still look like shit. I even did a cycle in late 20's to see what it was about (after training properly for 10+ years and after I was done competing in combat sports), and it won't make a damn lick of difference with women if you're not already confident with people skills. I didn't even want to finish the cycle and it convinced me to stay natty.
Go to the gym regularly. If you're starting from skinny fat, do a full body program 3 days/week like Stronglifts 5x5. It's free, hard to fuck up and it works very well:
Stronglifts 5×5: The Complete Workout Guide [2025] | Stronglifts
The best 5×5 workout guide on the entire Internet. Discover how to build strength and muscle doing only three full body workouts per week.
If you're already fat, don't overeat. Just eat healthy and get enough sleep. You can do cardio or another sport on the side if you want, especially the first month when the weights will feel light. If you stick with it, you'll be amazed how much stronger you will get in 3 months. And you'll feel awesome, better than on gear.
Women are attracted to dudes with confidence, and the best way to build that confidence is to consistently take pride in your own growth, development and achievement. Getting on gear when you don't even know how to train yet is the opposite of that.
What makes you think confidence and approach matters ? Wouldn’t they reject you straight away if you do not meet the looks requirement (height, face, physique) ?
A natty physique + plastic surgery (tempted) is enough to get play?
So 4 times a week training then upped to 5-6 with all nutrition elements, is enough to get a proper physique and add muscle? Unless my genetics are the worst ever?
So average - above avg woman that’s enough? And meeting irl also? Instead of online?
Being said, a good classy style is better than tryhard designer clothes etc? Or dress as you like?
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except he probably shouldn't be doing GOMAD
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Nah, nah, nah...according to Rip, you're not a man until your BMI starts with a 4.
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maybe he should eat a well balanced diet and do a wide variety of rep ranges 5 times a week at RPE 7-8 for all exercises.....you know for long term progress and all of that
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Bro you sound like a young guy who's super anxious, just wants to get laid no matter what, and hasn't yet figured out how the world works. The latter 3 qualities are huge turn-offs for women and always will be, no matter how rich, handsome or jacked you might be. You have a bunch of older dudes in this thread giving you solid advice.
If a chick is into you, she'll be into you. If she's not, she's not and you can't force it. If you magically make a second approach to some chick who's not into you but now you're super jacked, she still won't be into you. All you can do is improve the odds by putting yourself out there and meeting more women, some of whom will be into you if you're remotely conversational and not a douche.
Go to the gym. Don't overthink it. The best workout is the one you actually do. If you want to get bigger and stronger, do a full body barbell program of which there are many that work well, but some popular ones are StrongLifts 5x5 and Starting Strength. There's a long ass thread about Rippetoe and a bunch of us old fuckers are in there arguing about which one is best. Bill Starr has good stuff too. Just pick one and do it for 3-4 months, then come back here and update us on how much better you look and feel.
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All things being equal roids will help you some with the ladies as long as you're not a creep. Still not worth it. As soon as you stop doing them you're gonna shrivel up. You'll be back to square one and less likely to work out natural.
You can't do them forever.
You're not keeping any of it when u stop.
Not worth it
You can't do them forever.
You're not keeping any of it when u stop.
Not worth it
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TS is not a good listener. Even when given knowledgeable answers he refuses to give credit to others or abandon his strange personal view where roids are the best road to getting women. He keeps repeating himself as if trying to convince us.
I feel like breaking up with TS even though he doesn't even wanna bang me. Now imagine if he was trying to stick stuff up your butt on top of everything else.
I feel like breaking up with TS even though he doesn't even wanna bang me. Now imagine if he was trying to stick stuff up your butt on top of everything else.
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