Are Anabolic Steroids worth it?

[1rawdog]

I seriously mean this with respect, let's get real for a minute. Take this like it's coming from your big brother or something.

Starting from where you are at you would have to be a complete idiot to juice anytime soon. You may well be qualified under that standard.

How many times do these guy have to say it in different ways? No, for you it's not worth it.

Relatively speaking you don't appear to have a fucking clue about training or nutrition let alone AAS.
You also are coming off as very immature and lacking understanding of women and life in general.

You are wasting your time here. Get the F off this board and learn all that shit inside and out before you even think about AAS again. To be fair nobody really understands women fully but you are way off track. Life ain't simple either but give it a shot. On the physical side prioritize nutrition knowledge ahead of the training but get on both asap.

I think that most guys can juice without harm if they are smart about it but there are limits and risks. Roids ain't a joke and in your case your stated goals don't indicate a need for them. So far you look like a great candidate for long term injury to your health, mental and physical.

 

[I Fusion I]

I seriously mean this with respect, let's get real for a minute. Take this like it's coming from your big brother or something.

Starting from where you are at you would have to be a complete idiot to juice anytime soon. You may well be qualified under that standard.

How many times do these guy have to say it in different ways? No, for you it's not worth it.

Relatively speaking you don't appear to have a fucking clue about training or nutrition let alone AAS.
You also are coming off as very immature and lacking understanding of women and life in general.

You are wasting your time here. Get the F off this board and learn all that shit inside and out before you even think about AAS again. To be fair nobody really understands women fully but you are way off track. Life ain't simple either but give it a shot. On the physical side prioritize nutrition knowledge ahead of the training but get on both asap.

I think that most guys can juice without harm if they are smart about it but there are limits and risks. Roids ain't a joke and in your case your stated goals don't indicate a need for them. So far you look like a great candidate for long term injury to your health, mental and physical.

So you believe I am dumb to think woman only care about looks and nothing else?

And I’d be better with improving most stuff and training natty?

 

[Fahcough]

Might be easier to get rich than jacked. Then you don't need anything else, looks, personality, humor, physical ability, all four limbs, hair, hygiene. Money trumps all with women.

 

[Cartiac]

Prove that personality is a factor. When every data says looks is #1.

You can keep gains btw if you PCT and diet/train properly. You only lose water.

I think it’s better to train natty for a while and then start roids, maybe?


I basically do all of that, plus considering to getting under the knife / fillers.

I even drive a nice car atm. Wouldn’t be muscles and a lean physique cherry on top?

So you think I am gambling with my health and future for vanity purposes?

Again giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are honestly looking for genuine advise, you really need to spend more time understanding what you are in for. The biggest challenges you need to be prepared for are the extreme psychological and emotional swings you will go through between the highs of being on to the lows of coming off. PCT is more about keeping your sanity than it is your gains.

You seem to understand that you will lose size, strength and weight, but you also have to understand you will feel emotions that you never have before due to the hormonal imbalance and if you can't remind yourself what is causing it and tell yourself not to act on it you can lose family, friends,etc.

 

[cincymma79]

So you believe I am dumb to think woman only care about looks and nothing else?

And I’d be better with improving most stuff and training natty?

Not at all. Looks is a door opener. It’ll get you a shot more often than without. It’s only a shot though. That said if you’re in great shape you can bang fat chucks for batting practice.

 

[Slothbroth]

This is ts feeling macho and ready to approach some girls after a couple cycles.

Spoiler

 

[I Fusion I]

Not at all. Looks is a door opener. It’ll get you a shot more often than without. It’s only a shot though. That said if you’re in great shape you can bang fat chucks for batting practice.

Look are the what u need to pass threshold 100%. As far the test, nothing else works or matter if its lacking.

bones, tall and physique. Getting better zygo and eyes can drastixslly improve your dating chances much more than anything else.

Again giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are honestly looking for genuine advise, you really need to spend more time understanding what you are in for. The biggest challenges you need to be prepared for are the extreme psychological and emotional swings you will go through between the highs of being on to the lows of coming off. PCT is more about keeping your sanity than it is your gains.

You seem to understand that you will lose size, strength and weight, but you also have to understand you will feel emotions that you never have before due to the hormonal imbalance and if you can't remind yourself what is causing it and tell yourself not to act on it you can lose family, friends,etc.

I dont even like finasteride and how it affects dht so roids or sarms are far more likely to give issues ?

 

[Zankou]

So you believe I am dumb to think woman only care about looks and nothing else?

And I’d be better with improving most stuff and training natty?

Women basically have two metrics for the male body: are you tall? Are you fat? Other than that, they are looking at the face. Steroids will do nothing to help you with any of those three issues (except obesity to a degree). They will only help with things that matter to other men. They are the equivalent of expensive handbags for women— other women care about them, but they don’t attract men.

Also, women care about total social status, total aggregate ‘value’, more than just about anything. If you are rich, accomplished, famous, respected and admired by other people, you can substitute any of that for looks. It’s just that looks are instant to convey, while other attributes take time to convey.

 

[I Fusion I]

Women basically have two metrics for the male body: are you tall? Are you fat? Other than that, they are looking at the face. Steroids will do nothing to help you with any of those three issues (except obesity to a degree). They will only help with things that matter to other men. They are the equivalent of expensive handbags for women— other women care about them, but they don’t attract men.

Also, women care about total social status, total aggregate ‘value’, more than just about anything. If you are rich, accomplished, famous, respected and admired by other people, you can substitute any of that for looks. It’s just that looks are instant to convey, while other attributes take time to convey.

I am non tall unfortunately, got dealt with nightmare mode cards at birth. I might have a bad personality but unfortunately i am non nt so i am adhd . Ppl dont treat me the best even though i am not poor or ugly.

cant see anything else working except going under the knife if roids are too risky.

have to hide that forever from everyone though.

 

[mr.sandman]

The problem is in your head. If you believe you are unattractive, you become unattractive. If you think youre sexy youl become sexy. There are many guys who look like danny devito and can pull hot chicks. Because they act like men. Most important to have good hygiene, be friendly and be a MAN. Confidence something that can be built day by day, a little victory by little victory. Preparedness gives confidence. Work on yourself

 

[mr.sandman]

If people treat you wierd is because you act wierd. Stand up straight, look people in the eyes, dont mumble and be clear when you talk. Have good posture. Be friendly but have the attitude that if you dont treat me with respect il punch you in the mouth

 

[I Fusion I]

The problem is in your head. If you believe you are unattractive, you become unattractive. If you think youre sexy youl become sexy. There are many guys who look like danny devito and can pull hot chicks. Because they act like men. Most important to have good hygiene, be friendly and be a MAN. Confidence something that can be built day by day, a little victory by little victory. Preparedness gives confidence. Work on yourself

I do not like my eye area and zygos. Unfortunately, I was dealt with avg looking looks at best, and not good social circle or social skills due to being neurodivergent (adhd).

No ugly or avg guy is pulling an average or cute girl let alone hot one. Looks inflation and woman demand are out of reality due to dating apps.

If people treat you wierd is because you act wierd. Stand up straight, look people in the eyes, dont mumble and be clear when you talk. Stand up straight, have good posture. Be friendly but have the attitude that if you dont treat me with respect il punch you in the mouth

That’s it?

 

[KnightTemplar]

Might be easier to get rich than jacked. Then you don't need anything else, looks, personality, humor, physical ability, all four limbs, hair, hygiene. Money trumps all with women.

Bitches ain't shit but Hoe's and Tricks.

 

[xPINKx]

No ugly or avg guy is pulling an average or cute girl let alone hot one. Looks inflation and woman demand are out of reality due to dating apps.

Dude, stop this shit. There is so many examples of just that. Is it harder to get laid if you're not very attractive? Maybe. Is it impossible? Hell no.
You are wildly insecure about your looks and obsess about imagined dating stats, maybe you'd be better off not spending as much time on Sherdog and instead starting...a team sport? A fun hobby? Social skills can be learned and trained, it might be an uphill battle, but much more sustainable than AAS. Especially given your current training background.

 

[mr.sandman]

I do not like my eye area and zygos. Unfortunately, I was dealt with avg looking looks at best, and not good social circle or social skills due to being neurodivergent (adhd).

No ugly or avg guy is pulling an average or cute girl let alone hot one. Looks inflation and woman demand are out of reality due to dating apps.



That’s it?

Believe me, ugly guy with confidence and good game will pull more chicks then some awkward vegan woke feminist brad pitt who act like chicken.

Woman is the beautiful one in the relationship. For man is more important to be confident, funny, be manly. Be the kind of guy that if shes scared of something she feels safe being with you under your "wing". You make her feel safe with positive attitude,being financially stable, with being strong and confident, . Be like a rock. If you are ugly but you are dressed good, you are friendly, funny, confident, and have friendly eyes. This is enough.

There are many things to acting like a real man. You can learn this, put into youtube how to act like a man or how to be atractive to women and there ought to be a million videos. Watch them all and make notes.

If you ask me, first thing is to build up your physical confidence. Lift weights enoguh to be in decent shape. This will give you confidence that you are just as strong as any man. Box, do bjj or whatever martial arts. This will give you confidence in yourself in social settings.

Clean up your grooming, style, everything like that. Make sure you always look clean and smell good. Learn all the videos and books how to act like a boss. Practice. With each day your confidence will grow a little, youl feel more relaxed, be more funny etc.

Have decent bodyfat % also. 15% -20% is good to be attractive.

If you are classy guy like this, pulling 6s or 7s should be no problem.

 

[mr.sandman]

Just the other day i was on instagram, i saw this guys fat as a motherfucker, to my suprise this guy has really gorgeus young girlfriend. His account name is billyarrowsmith. While this is unordinary its nothing special. Everything is possible if you give yourself a chance and go for it. Not pity yourself in the corner.

 

[I Fusion I]

Dude, stop this shit. There is so many examples of just that. Is it harder to get laid if you're not very attractive? Maybe. Is it impossible? Hell no.
You are wildly insecure about your looks and obsess about imagined dating stats, maybe you'd be better off not spending as much time on Sherdog and instead starting...a team sport? A fun hobby? Social skills can be learned and trained, it might be an uphill battle, but much more sustainable than AAS. Especially given your current training background.

Just the reality cuz many and most couples meet online nowadays. So AAS or plastic surgery might be an extreme thing to pull it off but it’s widely better to pull compared to the other.

Believe me, ugly guy with confidence and good game will pull more chicks then some awkward vegan woke feminist brad pitt who act like chicken.

Woman is the beautiful one in the relationship. For man is more important to be confident, funny, be manly. Be the kind of guy that if shes scared of something she feels safe being with you under your "wing". You make her feel safe with positive attitude,being financially stable, with being strong and confident, . Be like a rock. If you are ugly but you are dressed good, you are friendly, funny, confident, and have friendly eyes. This is enough.

There are many things to acting like a real man. You can learn this, put into youtube how to act like a man or how to be atractive to women and there ought to be a million videos. Watch them all and make notes.

If you ask me, first thing is to build up your physical confidence. Lift weights enoguh to be in decent shape. This will give you confidence that you are just as strong as any man. Box, do bjj or whatever martial arts. This will give you confidence in yourself in social settings.

Clean up your grooming, style, everything like that. Make sure you always look clean and smell good. Learn all the videos and books how to act like a boss. Practice. With each day your confidence will grow a little, youl feel more relaxed, be more funny etc.

Have decent bodyfat % also. 15% -20% is good to be attractive.

If you are classy guy like this, pulling 6s or 7s should be no problem.

Some of this are ok, some of this aren’t ok. Imo.

BF, style, grooming and weight and confidence yes but humor, money, etc won’t save an ugly guy. Maybe an average guy.

I am kinda average, decent one but I am a bit insecure and don’t have good social skills cuz of my adhd.

I
struggle keeping friends and trying to even find woman in the first place.

 

[mr.sandman]

Just the reality cuz many and most couples meet online nowadays. So AAS or plastic surgery might be an extreme thing to pull it off but it’s widely better to pull compared to the other.



Some of this are ok, some of this aren’t ok. Imo.

BF, style, grooming and weight and confidence yes but humor, money, etc won’t save an ugly guy. Maybe an average guy.

I am kinda average, decent one but I am a bit insecure and don’t have good social skills cuz of my adhd.

I
struggle keeping friends and trying to even find woman in the first place.

I told you basically everything you need to know to get on your way to getting chicks. It might take a couple years to build your confidence but better late then never. Do you know theres medicine for adhd? You sound like you know everything, you have all your excuses why you dont get women. But the reality is, the problem is not your looks, its your mentality. You need to rewire your brain. Look at the picture i put. If this guy can do it so can you. If you wanna believe your excuses, fine by me. Feel sorry for yourself. BUt believe me steroids aint gonna help you, they will only make things even worse for you.

You just have to believe in yourself and start your journey. A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.'


I know what im talking about first hand. I have built myself up from 0. Ive had serious anxiety in my life, ive been weak and awkard and 0 skills with ladies when i was like 20 years old but my strong point is my learning ability. Ive trained for years, i only wear (clean) clothes like calvin klein and tommy hilfiger etc now, i use parfumes, i have grown alot more muscle when since i was skinny in my younger years . When i was younger my posture was shit but now ive learned how to keep very good posture all day long. I Combination of all these little victories has changed my personality . You feel more comfortable if you look better, people treat you better and day by day you become more confident.

Ive watched and read like hundreds of hours how to live, how to act, how to make money, how to act with women. The internet is a powerful tool. Every time im with other people, i watch how they act. If i see something that is positive, i take over that behavorial pattern.I try to cut out all negative patterns i identify in myself. Every time i pursue a girl, whatever the result is, i learn from it something new and become better.

Im 32 years old now and im more confident and outspoken then i would have ever thought i could be. I still have alot room to grow but i can mingle with the ladies with little to no anxiety now. I talk to random chicks in the gym or wherever if i have the opportunity. If you act naturally the result has always been positive for me. Most women are ridicolously more friendlier then men and up for a little chit chat with any man basically who acts cool.

Im just saying this, if i could change so much, so can you. You just have to believe in yourself and get on the course of self improvement.

 

[I Fusion I]

I told you basically everything you need to know to get on your way to getting chicks. It might take a couple years to build your confidence but better late then never. Do you know theres medicine for adhd? You sound like you know everything, you have all your excuses why you dont get women. But the reality is, the problem is not your looks, its your mentality. You need to rewire your brain. Look at the picture i put. If this guy can do it so can you. If you wanna believe your excuses, fine by me. Feel sorry for yourself. BUt believe me steroids aint gonna help you, they will only make things even worse for you.

You just have to believe in yourself and start your journey. A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.'


I know what im talking about first hand. I have built myself up from 0. Ive had serious anxiety in my life, ive been weak and awkard and 0 skills with ladies when i was like 20 years old but my strong point is my learning ability. Ive trained for years, i only wear (clean) clothes like calvin klein and tommy hilfiger etc now, i use parfumes, i have grown alot more muscle when since i was skinny in my younger years . When i was younger my posture was shit but now ive learned how to keep very good posture all day long. I Combination of all these little victories has changed my personality . You feel more comfortable if you look better, people treat you better and day by day you become more confident.

Ive watched and read like hundreds of hours how to live, how to act, how to make money, how to act with women. The internet is a powerful tool. Every time im with other people, i watch how they act. If i see something that is positive, i take over that behavorial pattern.I try to cut out all negative patterns i identify in myself. Every time i pursue a girl, whatever the result is, i learn from it something new and become better.

Im 32 years old now and im more confident and outspoken then i would have ever thought i could be. I still have alot room to grow but i can mingle with the ladies with little to no anxiety now. I talk to random chicks in the gym or wherever if i have the opportunity. If you act naturally the result has always been positive for me. Most women are ridicolously more friendlier then men and up for a little chit chat with any man basically who acts cool.

Im just saying this, if i could change so much, so can you. You just have to believe in yourself and get on the course of self improvement.

Self improvement = looks mostly.

Sure, could do everything of that, since it helps with myself and life. The thing is, plastic surgery and AAS are the short cuts, the rest except losing fat, some muscle and taking care of yourself will make zero difference with your overall rating

 

[xPINKx]

Self improvement = looks mostly.

Well, there's your problem