Are Americans falling behind in MMA?

[whougonnacall]

The whole MMA world Is full of very good judges of talent and potential.
If you're good, someone will know It.

Someonne might ..but unless they are ufc brass it matters not
This sport is still in its infant stages though itl improve

 

[riitzni]

America has more GOAT candidates and divisional GOATs than any other country. I'd say no.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

 

[neonbelly***]

I can't say anything about the last half of your statement, but to answer the first part, MMA is fucking hard. I own a gym. I get a couple guys s week who claim they want to fight. They train for 2 weeks and realize this shit sucks. They can barely move after classes, then are told they need to diet and exercise outside as well. It's not sustainable for the average person. TMA's and BJJ are usually a much lighter and therefore sustainable workout.

Tbh you're probably overtraining people and stunting their potential.

 

[linch]

In a lot of countries the state actually has free gymnasiums where people can go train in Combat Athletics

Like Dagestan?

 

[Huligani]

Didn't read it but let's see:

Best flyweight = Demetrious Johnson, an American
Best bantamweight = TJ Dillashaw, an American
Best featherweight = Max Holloway, an American
Best lightweight = Khabib Nurmagomedov, a Russian
Best welterweight = Tyron Woodley, an American
Best middleweight = Robert Whittaker, an Australian
Best light heavyweight = Jon Jones, an American
Best heavyweight = Danny Corms, an American

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

WTF? America is reknowned worldwide for the quality of its gyms and national support for sports. Like D1 Wrestling, I don't believe any other country has something like that, at least not in Europe where I live. And US Olympic Committeee receives plenty of funding from corporate sponsors regardless of the fact they don't receive any government support.

EDIT: Link.

Corporate sponsorships for a few high level programs pale in comparison to the state-funded programs that were pioneered by the communists in Russia, East Germany and now China. Again, there's a reason that it's a common refrain among non-high-profile American Olympic athletes (i.e. not Phelps, Lochte, female gymnasts, Serena Williams) that it's tough to balance training and paying the bills: because Americans, unlike their counterparts in other countries, have to actually worry about paying those bills.

 

[-guerilla-]

Every "decade" or generation seems to have a favorite martial art that captures the (American) public consciousness. In the 60s and early 70s it was Kung-Fu and you had the Bruce Lee's and Chuck Noris's, then in the 80s it was Karate -- that was all people were taking when I was a kid -- and you had movies like Karate Kid, then in 90's and 00's seems like TaeKwonDo was most popular -- I think because there was a rise in appreciation for Korean warrior culture plus it was properly organized as a sport (e.g. in Olympics). Then in with the rise of MMA the novelty seemed to focus on BJJ and honestly it was hyped as a big part of what made MMA different than other martial arts sports (we'd all been seeing punches and such for decades but now there were all these "weird" full-body submissions and such).

So yes BJJ is really the sport flavor of martial arts for the current generation.

The key though is that the majority of parents put kids into SPORTS. The well-organized ones like TaeKwonDo and BJJ are going to be strong candidates. It is also important that the sport be seen as lacking corruption and also not simply being a freak-show entertainment.

If you're talking to other parents and they say "my daughter is taking TaeKwonDo" no one even blinks. If you say "my daughter is taking boxing" you'll immediately get a lecture on CTE, and if you say "my daughter is taking MMA" they'll generally think you're a bad parent.

Not saying it is right, but just explaining the general societal view that I've witnessed.

I REALLY believe that MMA could become a mainstream sport one day, of course a modified version of it could even be in the Olympics (like it used to be)
Pankration was the "OG" Olympic contest

BJJ is just so profitable compared to raw athletics.
MMA can be practiced safely with muay thai pad work and gi-less grappling touch strike sparring but it just dosent haul in the cash like Belts uniforms and association/competition fees.

 

[Blazmo]

Corporate sponsorships for a few high level programs pale in comparison to the state-funded programs that were pioneered by the communists in Russia, East Germany and now China. Again, there's a reason that it's a common refrain among non-high-profile American Olympic athletes (i.e. not Phelps, Lochte, female gymnasts, Serena Williams) that it's tough to balance training and paying the bills: because Americans, unlike their counterparts in other countries, have to actually worry about paying those bills.

Post proof that athletes in other countries receive more funding than American ones or that the Olympic Committee's or their equivalents in other countries receive more funding than the American one.

 

[linch]

Corporate sponsorships for a few high level programs pale in comparison to the state-funded programs that were pioneered by the communists in Russia, East Germany and now China. Again, there's a reason that it's a common refrain among non-high-profile American Olympic athletes (i.e. not Phelps, Lochte, female gymnasts, Serena Williams) that it's tough to balance training and paying the bills: because Americans, unlike their counterparts in other countries, have to actually worry about paying those bills.

Countries with state--funded Olympic programs suck at everything else, so I'm not sure really

 

[-guerilla-]

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To a point, maybe this Is true.

That said, If they are really that good. They're on the radar somewhere. Someone is looking at them, whether Bellator, the UFC, One, PFL, etc. It would be impossible to be a high caliber fighter In this day and age and not have some awareness somewhere of their existence.

I don't think the UFC really cares where fighters are coming from for the most part, they're Interested In having the best fighters In the world and putting on the best fights.

promoters know that drama sells more tickets then great athletic contests, look at Pro Wrestling... once they have established a franchise with a fighter they don't want to see them get beat and will actively protect that individual...

that is the nature of the beast when it comes to fight promotions, ever hear of a guy named don king?

I'm not talking about a particular fighter here I'm talking about the aggregate the general population if you took a thousand Russians and 1000 Americans I bet you would find a competent MMA athlete more commonly in the Russian sample..

I think it's a cultural difference even though we have all the best equipment, money, science and greater population ( every mathematical advantage) they still out perform Americans athletically overall....look at the Soviet Unions record

 

[linch]

About having more bbj gyms than pure mma gyms, think about it, who's gonna send their kid to a cage-fighting gym?

 

[gevoudane]

You dont see fighters walk out in a Gi any longer because you are not allowed to.

Also we literally have over 30 + here. County wise not just city. Also there are plenty of free gymnasiums around. Where do you live? The PNW is full of wrestling, mma and grappling.

 

[RizinSon88]

I saw the US go 2-0 against Sweden in one night... We are hanging in there.

 

[Blazmo]

I saw the US go 2-0 against Sweden in one night... We are hanging in there.

Latifi/Anderson was a robbery.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Bjj gyms are popular because lazy people can join. Also there are no current Brazilian Champs

 

[Mortal Wombat]

Dude where have you been since 93. Americans dominate hard. Why do you think im on Whittakers nuts so much?!

 

[djason1988]

Tbh you're probably overtraining people and stunting their potential.

Not at all. 1 hour muay thai, 1 1/2 bjj, 3-4 times a week. And that's the bare necessity of you want to fight

 

[BigTruck]

Horrible fake tits but nice ass. Who's the girl shaking her ass?

 

[cambo78]

Horrible fake tits but nice ass. Who's the girl shaking her ass?

Daniela Blume. It's her only asset . Total whore. "Sex therapist".

Would.