Are Americans falling behind in MMA?

[pick999]

unless conor is fighting.

b4 khabib fight i heard someone on his phone watching the press conference.

 

[Rondas Pillow]

I thought I was in the UFC forum.

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

Wrestling has always been more of a school sport there were over 250,000 participants in high school wrestling alone in 2018 https://www.statista.com/statistics/268028/participation-in-us-high-school-wrestling/

That’s just high schools, many more in colleges and wrestling clubs that are found in almost every USA city.

All of these guys compete and take the sport seriously. BJJ gyms have a crazy turn over. Many guys don’t last longer then 1-2 years with many dropping out inside 6 months.

Ok so where do I find a wrestling gym outside of highschool?

 

[bigmacbub]

Tbh you're probably overtraining people and stunting their potential.

Tbh you’ve probably never stepped foot in a mma gym or competed at a high level with that comment of yours.

 

[Vincentsky]

Ok so where do I find a wrestling gym outside of highschool?

You mean outside of college as well right ?

Depends where you live, what city are you from ?

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

You mean outside of college as well right ?

Depends where you live, what city are you from ?

LA area

 

[Vincentsky]

LA area

http://lawrestlingclub.com/

http://www.socalwrestlingclub.com/

 

[Ghostoftheville]

I've never heard of Louisville fight club to be honest. I remember hearing about the extremely short lived viper fight league in Louisville. Derby city mma and area 502 MMA are two of the gyms I hear about the most down here, so are you the best to judge this issue?

 

[Pressure Project]

What kid or parent of said kid aspires to work their asses off for years and years to be one out of many thousands every year to make it to the top mma org....and make a measly 10k?
Not Americans. That’s for damn sure. They could make more in scholarship money playing for a community college shuffleboard team.

 

[Jack Stevonovich]

http://lawrestlingclub.com/

http://www.socalwrestlingclub.com/

thanks dude!

I really need to get back on a mat.

I didn't take it seriously the first time round and didn't really realize my potential or truly appreciate all the cross over benefits it had into every other area of my life.

 

[storeybuckle]

8 Championship Belts on the Men's Side - 6 are in the hands of US athletes

4 Championship Belts on the Women's Side - 1 is in the hands of a US athlete

7 out of 12 UFC belts controlled by the USA. No other country has more than 1. If the USA is losing, who the fuck is winning?

What a dumb post.

Agreed

 

[machidafan99]

we seem to be falling behind in everything

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

UFC's champions
HW: American
LHW: American
MW: Australian
WW: American
LW: Russian
FW: American
BW: American
FLY: American

I don't think so.

 

[-guerilla-]

I've never heard of Louisville fight club to be honest. I remember hearing about the extremely short lived viper fight league in Louisville. Derby city mma and area 502 MMA are two of the gyms I hear about the most down here, so are you the best to judge this issue?

EST 1993

 

[-guerilla-]

I don't know honestly I think it's American training that sucks even though we have the biggest best gyms and resources we still don't use them properly.

You can see this in the MMA video games there are more foreign names then there are Americans.

these are the people who over the long-term have dominated mixed martial arts in America

despite having all the resources in the world we have the worst training because it separated it into monetary income streams ( multi martial art gyms cafeteria-style rather than straight mma from day one)

If you take two identical twins and one trains in Brazilian jiu-jitsu wrestling and Muay Thai and the other one straps on a pair of cage fighting gloves and trains nothing but MMA from day one the MMA twin is going to monster Mack the multi-disciplined twin.

Russians had combat sambo,
Brazilians had Vale tudo/bjj
Japanese had shooto

All we had were a few wrestlers in the beginning, remember the first few UFCs...the USA got SMOKED!!!

GSP
FEDOR
Silva
Aldo
Gracie
Sakuraba
Rutten
McGregor
Khabib
Velazquez
Dos Santos
Rua


List goes on and on

Plus we're not talkin about exclusively the UFC we're talkin about MMA worldwide...

However UFC alone=
68 USA
30 international
Championships...

Nearly half of America's largest MMA championships have been dominated by non-americans that's some pretty amazing data!

And three out of five of the longest reigning ufc championships are Anderson Silva, GSP and Jose Aldo!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_champions

Pretty sad performance considering we invented modern mix martial arts competition as it is known today!

 

[Mattitude V1]

MMA will always be a niche D level sport.

It’s on ESPN in prime time. How niche is it, really?

 

[-guerilla-]

Primetime+video game franchise!

MMA champions are household names!

Everybody knows who Royce Gracie is!!

YET in 95% of American cities "MMA" gyms break training into several disciples to maximize profits and student retention!

That's just intelligent marketing for you!

The problem i have is that its virtually impossible to establish an mma gym in "PUBLIC" facilities!

The government won't let the American taxpayers train MMA in TAX FUNDED FACILITIES!!!!

I fought like a lion for the better part of 2 decades to keep my place at the community center and finally gave up after the city threatened my career!

In Muhammad Ali's hometown the parks department wouldn't let grown men practice boxing or MMA at the community center anymore!

They actually locked the gym and denied taxpayers access to the facility.

The government should not tell citizens what sports they may participate in or practice in public facilities!

 

[João]

Don't forget the fighters from the country of your bosses:Chinese

 

[-guerilla-]

Don't forget the fighters from the country of your bosses:Chinese

We just owe them a bunch of money and will default...our real Masters will be the Russians

 

[TheRassler]

As a proud American.....

I am ashamed that my country has the most boring fighters on the face of this planet.