Anyone see Weidmans latest ig off?

[RampageFaction]

Listen again: he says "as soon as he put his foot down, I knew it was over." Clearly a fight can end without a fracture, and fighters commonly celebrate finishing a fight.

Clearer version.

 

[DeformedGravy]

Called it when he was boasting about getting on the treadmill or whatever it was right after the injury. The guy seems delusional, like he wants to get back in the octagon in record time and amaze everyone. You can't rush healing. Time to rest up not try to act like you're in a Hollywood rags to riches movie.

He really can't get out of his own way.

The fucked up thing is he probably thinks the quicker he gets back to training the more likely he can use the comeback story as a launching pad to a title shot. I still remember him calling for one when he beat Gastelum after getting knocked out 3x, that was delusional. Losing the belt seems to have made him rush through everything to get back to it.

Rushing through rehab might cost him his leg.

 

[Doughie99]

If I’m reading this correctly it looks like weidman and his team rushed it and now he has another butterfly fracture on his fibula instead of just on his tibia. (Which never healed/possibly got worse) Not sure if he was gonna have to get another surgery in the future anyway but it seems like those rehab guys made it a 100% guarantee he has to now. I remember Anderson only had 1 surgery and he definitely wasn’t walking after a couple of weeks.

Look at the dudes fractures with the rod in. Going to those guys and rushing the training and walking was a huge mistake. If you look at the second picture it’s clear he has huge fractures on BOTH sides of the rod.



EDIT: if mods see this can you change the title from “off” to “post” lol

That's essentially what is called non-union.
It is now almost 10weeks after his tibia / fibula open leg fracture.
His fibula was not fixed by internal fixation (choice by his orthopedic surgeon). They could have used pins and a plate to establish fibula internal fixation. But...I'm not his surgeon. It honestly doesn't look good after 10weeks. Mal-union or non-union.
His tibia has an internal titanium rod inserted.

I have enough experience (personally! as an orthopedic patient) of this to say that his latest x-rays are not good, they do not show much bone regrowth, there is clearly a chunk of fibula floating around there. and the fracture lines are still very clear and significant in the tibia and also the fibula. Not the progress I would have hoped for after approx 10weeks.

I don't think this is good progress. I suspect insufficient blood-flow to the affected area.

I wish him well.

 

[felmmando]

Dude get the fuck out of here. He said “I wasn’t sure it broke until I seen him put his foot back down to the mat.”
If you can’t acknowledge that I’m gonna have to assume you’re trolling. Listen to it again.

Look, you want to credit him with incredible medical skills, be my guest. But I wonder how many of the people ragging on him for his victory lap actually diagnosed Silva's fracture in the moment? We spectators had the benefit of a much broader view of Silva, yet all I saw was him fall down clutching his leg. He did the same thing in the Cannonier fight and didn't sustain any fracture.

 

[RampageFaction]

Look, you want to credit him with incredible medical skills, be my guest. But I wonder how many of the people ragging on him for his victory lap actually diagnosed Silva's fracture in the moment? We spectators had the benefit of a much broader view of Silva, yet all I saw was him fall down clutching his leg. He did the same thing in the Cannonier fight and didn't sustain any fracture.

“I didn’t know it was broke until I seen him put his foot down on the mat.” (Weidman 2013)

“Anyone saying I celebrated when Anderson’s leg snapped is entirely wrong. I didn’t know his leg snapped.” (Weidman 2021)

Keep trollin buddy.

 

[felmmando]

“I didn’t know it was broke until I seen him put his foot down on the mat.” (Weidman 2013)

“Anyone saying I celebrated when Anderson’s leg snapped is entirely wrong. I didn’t know his leg snapped.” (Weidman 2021)

Keep trollin buddy.

If a cageside physician claimed to diagnose a fracture just by seeing Silva put his foot down, then maybe, just maybe, I could entertain the idea that Weidman had that ability too.
If you're honest, I think you'll admit that, like me, you didn't know exactly what had happened to him when the fight was stopped.

 

[blaa_kriger]

His first post surgery x-ray also had these fractures, were they hoping they would heal without any screws etc. A lot of times for those fractures you also need to use a plate and screws on the fibula.

 

[TheOneAboveAll3]

Maybe Silva's leg broke due to karma from having such a terrible fanbase. It makes sense, now that I think about it....... karma.... lol

Thats the dumbest shit I've ever heard and I've heard a lot of dumb shit on sherdog...

 

[TheOneAboveAll3]

how is Silva > wiedman when Weidman broke Silva’s leg AND knocked him the f out as well as played basketball with his head off the canvas a bit?

KARMA!!

 

[MigitAs]

Guy needs to just helax and not try to come back too quick.

He’s only getting older.

 

[Reaper_mma_MKII]

Guy needs to just helax and not try to come back too quick.

It's looking like he already fucked up and tried to come back too quick. He's definitely going to helax for sure now. The Chris bless

 

[Reaper_mma_MKII]

Oh boy. I'm not a boneologist but this seems like a bad deal still. Was he directed to do all of this stuff or he did he force the docs hand or ignore the docs? I just want him to be alright whether he fights again or not.

I'm not in the know but from what I gather it seems like a combination of stupid fucking advice and making stupid fucking decisions.

 

[this is my new account]

Im pretty sure those floating bone fragments are a good sign of proper healing.

 

[HaulParris]

If I’m reading this correctly it looks like weidman and his team rushed it and now he has another butterfly fracture on his fibula instead of just on his tibia. (Which never healed/possibly got worse) Not sure if he was gonna have to get another surgery in the future anyway but it seems like those rehab guys made it a 100% guarantee he has to now. I remember Anderson only had 1 surgery and he definitely wasn’t walking after a couple of weeks.

Look at the dudes fractures with the rod in. Going to those guys and rushing the training and walking was a huge mistake. If you look at the second picture it’s clear he has huge fractures on BOTH sides of the rod.



EDIT: if mods see this can you change the title from “off” to “post” lol

I wish him the best, and hope that he focuses on his health instead of rushing back into training/competing. He's chasing a dream that is not going to come true. I just hope he has people around him who can convince him of this, and gently push him towards retirement.

 

[skobydog]

There are safer ways to stay active.

 

[do a moniker]

That's essentially what is called non-union.
It is now almost 10weeks after his tibia / fibula open leg fracture.
His fibula was not fixed by internal fixation (choice by his orthopedic surgeon). They could have used pins and a plate to establish fibula internal fixation. But...I'm not his surgeon. It honestly doesn't look good after 10weeks. Mal-union or non-union.
His tibia has an internal titanium rod inserted.

I have enough experience (personally! as an orthopedic patient) of this to say that his latest x-rays are not good, they do not show much bone regrowth, there is clearly a chunk of fibula floating around there. and the fracture lines are still very clear and significant in the tibia and also the fibula. Not the progress I would have hoped for after approx 10weeks.

I don't think this is good progress. I suspect insufficient blood-flow to the affected area.

I wish him well.

A non-union can not truly be called that until 9 months. There is a push towards 6 months of recent. He does have some healing. He has fracture callous in both the tibia and fibula. I will agree it is not abundant and his healing does not look robust. He will need more time to determine if more surgery is needed. The treatment for a tibial non-union after intramedullary nailing, is an exchange nailing. That is a painful and not fun procedure.

There isn't much benefit to fixing the fibula, but some might do it while they are renailing the tibia. You are correct in saying that it is likely poor blood flow. In open fractures, the periosteum is disrupted along with the blood supply in the area, and they are at greater risk of non-unions than closed fractures. That is called in atrophic (or oligotrophic but the difference is too complicated for this forum) non-union.

The other way a non-union can occur is too much motion at the fracture site. Which is why, I have no idea who is letting him do all this training at 8-10 weeks from nailing, when the xrays clearly don't show robust healing. But as another poster said, he has a history of doing things which I suspect are against surgeon's wishes. He has more than 1 level in his neck operated on, and that is an immediate career ender for the armed forces and the NFL. Why MMA is any different is beyond me.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Yikes. We saw him walking so soon. And a lot of us worried he was pushing it too hard

we were right

We're sherdoggers, its to be expected.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Chill, Weidmon

 

[Doughie99]

A non-union can not truly be called that until 9 months. There is a push towards 6 months of recent. He does have some healing. He has fracture callous in both the tibia and fibula. I will agree it is not abundant and his healing does not look robust. He will need more time to determine if more surgery is needed. The treatment for a tibial non-union after intramedullary nailing, is an exchange nailing. That is a painful and not fun procedure.

There isn't much benefit to fixing the fibula, but some might do it while they are renailing the tibia. You are correct in saying that it is likely poor blood flow. In open fractures, the periosteum is disrupted along with the blood supply in the area, and they are at greater risk of non-unions than closed fractures. That is called in atrophic (or oligotrophic but the difference is too complicated for this forum) non-union.

The other way a non-union can occur is too much motion at the fracture site. Which is why, I have no idea who is letting him do all this training at 8-10 weeks from nailing, when the xrays clearly don't show robust healing. But as another poster said, he has a history of doing things which I suspect are against surgeon's wishes. He has more than 1 level in his neck operated on, and that is an immediate career ender for the armed forces and the NFL. Why MMA is any different is beyond me.

Thanks for your input and details Doc. So basically you're advising he should quit the training and just rest completely for maybe 2 or 3 months more?

 

[do a moniker]

Thanks for your input and details Doc. So basically you're advising he should quit the training and just rest completely for maybe 2 or 3 months more?

He can weight bearing and do some walking and regular PT. But it seems he’s over doing it. Big caveat is that these are purely suggestions based on minimal clinical knowledge of his situation and seeing only a few X-rays. Not at all a diagnosis or recommendation