Anthony Pettis future Champion??

[rm95]

I think he's the future champion as long as Bendo's champ and he doesn't have to fight somebody like Maynard or Melendez on the way.

 

[Workaholic]

Where does it imply that I said Bendo was dominating the fight? or that he was domiating the 5th round? I think he was edging the round and even if he would have lost slightly on points the judges would have most likely given Bendo the nod because he was champ and Pettis didn't decisively beat the champ without a significant blow or knockdown in that round and overall wouldn't have done enough to win most likely.

There is something seriously wrong with you if you viewed the 5th round before the kick as even or with Bendo in front. Bendo did NOTHING except a takedown and 30 seconds of top control while Pettis landed multiple clean strikes, rocked Bendo with a flying knee and made Bendo hit the mat just by shuffling his feet. Anyone who scores that for Bendo is exactly why we have all the judging problems we do

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

Pettis has never been out-struck, and really hasn't been in much danger. Cerrone has been out-struck by Diaz, Kelly, Varner (1st time), and Njo. He was in danger against Mel and Rob. Cerrone is getting lit up, if not finished in this fight, unless he takes it the ground, if he can, in which case he'll probably get triangled because his top game isn't nearly as good as his bottom game.

 

[The Monster]

I see Bendo taking a UD in their next fight unfortunately

 

[xelad1]

There is something seriously wrong with you if you viewed the 5th round before the kick as even or with Bendo in front. Bendo did NOTHING except a takedown and 30 seconds of top control while Pettis landed multiple clean strikes, rocked Bendo with a flying knee and made Bendo hit the mat just by shuffling his feet. Anyone who scores that for Bendo is exactly why we have all the judging problems we do

Don't worry he didn't actually watch the fight... hell he probably didn't even read fightmetric because if he did he would realize that Pettis outlanded Bendo 52 strikes to 5 in the final round.

I love when people backtrack and "soften" their statement.... except the "softer" statement is still absolute BS. Bendo didn't come close to dominating, edging, or remotely winning the final round. The only way you could think this is if a. you are an idiot or b. you really didn't watch the fight.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and just say he's BSing off of what he's read on Sherdog and Wikipedia.

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

There is something seriously wrong with you if you viewed the 5th round before the kick as even or with Bendo in front. Bendo did NOTHING except a takedown and 30 seconds of top control while Pettis landed multiple clean strikes, rocked Bendo with a flying knee and made Bendo hit the mat just by shuffling his feet. Anyone who scores that for Bendo is exactly why we have all the judging problems we do

Yup

 

[FallIntoTheRope**]

He's so damn smug and way too flashy.

 

[Workaholic]

Don't worry he didn't actually watch the fight... hell he probably didn't even read fightmetric because if he did he would realize that Pettis outlanded Bendo 52 strikes to 5 in the final round.

I love when people backtrack and "soften" their statement.... except the "softer" statement is still absolute BS. Bendo didn't come close to dominating, edging, or remotely winning the final round. The only way you could think this is if a. you are an idiot or b. you really didn't watch the fight.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and just say he's BSing off of what he's read on Sherdog and Wikipedia.

Honestly that has to be it. There is no other logical explanation to why anyone could think Ben was winning that round and yet every Pettis thread someone pops up and says the kick "stole" him the fight. I though it was pretty clearly Pettis' round and fight and given the two times he badly hurt Ben I scored the 5th a 10-8

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

Honestly that has to be it. There is no other logical explanation to why anyone could think Ben was winning that round and yet every Pettis thread someone pops up and says the kick "stole" him the fight. I though it was pretty clearly Pettis' round and fight and given the two times he badly hurt Ben I scored the 5th a 10-8

Hell, I've even seen some people state Bendo won the round even with the kick, and subsequent ground strikes, which made them forget everything else that happened beforehand. Like the TD, 40 secs of top control, and brief back take. How could anyone ever overcome that level of devastation in the remaining 4 minutes and 20 seconds? Pettis' flying knee and body punches arguably trumped everything Bendo did in that round, combined. Let alone everything else Pettis did.

 

[Workaholic]

Hell, I've even seen some people state Bendo won the round even with the kick, and subsequent ground strikes, which made them forget everything else that happened beforehand. Like the TD, 40 secs of top control, and brief back take. How could anyone ever overcome that level of devastation in the remaining 4 minutes and 20 seconds? Pettis' flying knee and body punches arguably trumped everything Bendo did in that round, combined. Let alone everything else Pettis did.

Exactly. There is literally no sensible arguement to giving that round to Bendo even without the kick. Anyone who states otherwise either doesn't remember the fight or has never seen it

 

[Unbreakabull]

Pettis has never been out-struck, and really hasn't been in much danger. Cerrone has been out-struck by Diaz, Kelly, Varner (1st time), and Njo. He was in danger against Mel and Rob. Cerrone is getting lit up, if not finished in this fight, unless he takes it the ground, if he can, in which case he'll probably get triangled because his top game isn't nearly as good as his bottom game.

To be fair though, I don't see Cerrone getting outstruck by Pettis's recent opponents either: Guida, Roller, Castillo or Lauzon. And Cerrone beat Stephens as well. And if you want to list Cerrone's opponents, they're some pretty good strikers actually.

 

[Dark Defender]

Bendo fights nothing like Gudia and isn't as a good of a smothering wrestler as gudia

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

To be fair though, I don't see Cerrone getting outstruck by Pettis's recent opponents either: Guida, Roller, Castillo or Lauzon. And Cerrone beat Stephens as well. And if you want to list Cerrone's opponents, they're some pretty good strikers actually.

Cerrone has faced tougher strikers on average, no doubt. But from that we know he's been out-struck and in trouble against several of them. Against Pettis' schedule, that's been the case against none. We don't know how Cerrone would have fared.

Lauzon did out-strike Guillard, who had Cerrone in big trouble. And he did hold his own against Varner, who kicked Cerrone's ass in the first fight, although in fairness got his ass kicked in the 2nd.

With Bendo, against Cerrone, there wasn't enough stand-up to tell. Almost all ground in their first fight, a quick sub in the 2nd.

Bartimus? Who knows. Cerrone getting beaten on the feet by Kelly wasn't a good look. But in fairness it was his octagon debut and he looked very nervous. I just wish Pettis would get the same considerations as Cerrone. If it was Kelly instead of Guida, you'd have expected Pettis to overcome emotions and still win.

 

[rush61]

Guida laid on him for fifteen minutes.

And showtime couldnt do anything about it

 

[riitzni]

Pettis is clearly the future of the division.

BTW, Guida is the 'example'? Guida has lost, recovered, improved, and, subsequently, threw himself back into title contention. And Pettis is 10x as talented. H-i-s-t-o-r-y.

Come on, man...

I never said Pettis lacked talent, or that he wasn't going to be a LW mainstay. The OP asked if he was going to be a future champion, and based on the shark tank that is LW I don't see it happening. People without extremely well rounded games and solid wrestling simply do not have the tools to stay at the top of the heap anymore. Bendo, Maynard, Edgar are all bad match ups for anyone without similar high level skills in all areas.

Nate Diaz would have been beaten by Maynard, again. I'm fully confident Frankie would have tooled him as well. Jim Miller, Cerrone, Melendez, I would pick none of them against the top three of the LW pile (Miller being the only one whose already lost to all three). Lauzon, Alvarez, even less of a chance. Pettis is absolutely in there and I think he hangs on to top 10 status a long time and even gets a title shot down the road. But I don't think he'll win gold.

 

[JonSnitchPhones]

And showtime couldnt do anything about it

No, he opted to go for subs. He even said so afterward that he would try to get up next time. He only tried to get up when he was along the fence and couldn't get sub attempts off. Sometimes he stayed on his feet, others he got forced back down. In the middle of the cage he threatened with subs to create space numerous times but just laid on his back. This wasn't Josh Thomson getting pushed back down by Guida repeatedly, and if you've actually watched Pettis' other fights he gets up after a little bit on the ground with a variety of sweeps he pulled against Bendo, Roller, Castillo, Stephens, etc. There were no attempts against Guida. He welcomed him back to guard.

 

[PASTAFAR1AN]

You didn't say any of that and I never claimed you did. You said Benson would probably get the decision but that whole round right before the kick was still up in the air. It was anyones fight all this talk about he was the champ and all that doesn't matter thats just something people made up in boxing and people think carries over to MMA.

Pettis won two rounds from Bendo so saying he most likely wouldn't have done anything else to take the round is silly.

So you replied to me to agree with me in argumentative form?

 

[betyourlife82]

It's possible, I don't see how people are saying he has no chance. He has great striking, very good grappling, and you know he's working his ass off to improve his wrestling. The kid has a ton of talent and is still young. if he puts it all together, anything is possible

 

[method115]

So you replied to me to agree with me in argumentative form?

First off I'm not arguing this is a forum for discussing MMA. That's what we're doing here is having a discussion.

I don't agree with you cause you said Benson most likely would have won. That fight was so close from begining to end I think it's silly to say that.

 

[PASTAFAR1AN]

First off I'm not arguing this is a forum for discussing MMA. That's what we're doing here is having a discussion.

I don't agree with you cause you said Benson most likely would have won. That fight was so close from begining to end I think it's silly to say that.

The Scorecards were 48-47 for Pettis if I remember right.

It was a close 5th round but before the kick Pettis may not have done enough to decisively win the belt even if he landed most his shots, he still got taken down by Bendo and judges get orgasmic for takedowns, it's very feasible to say Bendo was on his way to narrow victory at least.