Another horrendous fight night

I hate the Apex cards too but what's up with the "pretending" part though? I mean if people say they care about some fights then so what? Who am I to say what makes you hardcore or not, and more importantly, why care?

I don't watch every card anymore but I guess it's great that some do?

I do keep track of what's going on, who won, who did some crazy shit, prospects worth knowing and fights worth watching. Just write it down on my notes and watch when I have the time.
 
I was going to make a thread along the lines of this as well. I’m just growing bored and I’m not sure if I'm losing interest or if it’s the product itself. It just isn’t as exciting anymore and I don’t know if it’s because I’m not following the lesser known guys the way I probably should, or if it really is just stale at the moment.

Edit: Thread I replied on was merged, I wasn’t going to call the card horrendous.
 
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I'm never able to see the events live anymore because I work Saturday nights. There was a time when my Saturday nights were sacred. Now it's just a few Saturdays a year I'll take off if there's a good social event happening with a card

So when I see these random ass apex cards I watch them but if I a fight is stinking up my time (Finney vs Valentin) I'll skip through it. I also skip all ads, walkouts, most post fight interviews

A lot of time goes into these events. The card yesterday was listed as 7 hours. I also fell asleep before the co main and main but it sounds like I didn't miss anything too important
 
Axe720 said:
I never know whether an event will be mediocre or not until I watch it. Some cards have top names and are an absolute letdown. Other cards are full of unknowns who put on a show to try and make a name for themselves.
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The argument is that knockouts don't mean shit when it's over unknown low level fighters. The excitement for a card is measured beforehand, not when the fights are finished.
 
The cards aren’t stacked every event with top names like they use to be
The Apex does suck donkey balls
But really the reason I watch this sport opportunity is because you never know what’s going to happen in a fight
Yeah you can say this fight is probably going to go this way, and you might be right 9 times out of 10
But there is always that element of the unknown, somebody could get knocked out, submitted, injured, quit at any moment
That’s why I tune in every card, I take the good with the bad
Like that little doctor chick who head kicked that chick on the China card last year

And sometimes I get excited for some average matchups if I like the fighter in some way
Every fight doesn’t have to be a big name, or have big implications
Every game in any sport can’t always be a banger

But nowadays I would probably be upset if there wasn’t a card every week cuz I’m so use to it
And love watching fights on a Saturday -If they decided to do less cards and try to stack them more with bigger names/fights
 
^ It is interesting how entertaining the Contender Series can be in comparison, with week after week of unknown prospects, the best of which end up in the UFC.
 
This is by far the most events I've skipped in a row in 20+ years of watching MMA. The next ppv is supposed to be a good one but it's actually pretty bad. Volk coming off 3 losses, 2 of them bad stoppages, and he's getting a title shot. Then you got Chandler who keeps losing but keeps getting high profile fights in the co-main.

O'Malley getting a rematch is dumb, there will be another rematch of a boring fight at lhw for the belt. Jones holding the hw belt hostage and ducking Tom. No one being matched up at LW. Refs not calling fouls...UFC has been terrible

/rant
 
Robbocop said:
12 fights, 8 decisions. It's interesting how you see fighters go for the finish so much harder on that Dana White Contender series, than what fighters actually go in the UFC these days.
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It's because the stakes are way higher on the Contender Series.

They have to be entertaining to get signed (in theory)

Once they're in the UFC they have a contract that includes win bonuses. If they lose they get paid half as much.
 
Legendary said:
5 minute rounds are awesome when you have exciting fights or people going for finishes, but when you get two fighters who want to coast, fight safe, or have a grueling fight with lots of stalling/stalemate positions, it drags on and is painful to watch.
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That is most fights on most cards, 90% of this crap isn't worth watching anymore. They train for point scoring to not lose, the few who just bang from bell to bell are refreshing. Title fights aren't even must see anymore.
Love when violent strikers go on a tear of KOs. Then the mouth breathers are hollering, give him a wrestler to hump his leg 15 minutes
 
A lot of entitled drama queens on this karate forum
 
Fahcough said:
That is most fights on most cards, 90% of this crap isn't worth watching anymore. They train for point scoring to not lose, the few who just bang from bell to bell are refreshing. Title fights aren't even must see anymore.
Love when violent strikers go on a tear of KOs. Then the mouth breathers are hollering, give him a wrestler to hump his leg 15 minutes
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You don't even actually watch MMA
 
Ares Black said:
It's because the stakes are way higher on the Contender Series.

They have to be entertaining to get signed (in theory)

Once they're in the UFC they have a contract that includes win bonuses. If they lose they get paid half as much.
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Yes I do agree that's a good explanation of why they fight for the finish on the contender series, I suppose I am just wondering why can't that fighting spirit and honour be replicated in the actual UFC. The UFC events ought to be more entertaining to the viewer, you would think, than the smaller budget feeder events for fighters to get into the UFC!
 
Robbocop said:
Yes I do agree that's a good explanation of why they fight for the finish on the contender series, I suppose I am just wondering why can't that fighting spirit and honour be replicated in the actual UFC. The UFC events ought to be more entertaining to the viewer, you would think, than the smaller budget feeder events for fighters to get into the UFC!
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It's that damn win bonus. It rewards playing it safe and winning the decision and punishes taking risks.

It needs to be replaced by a finish bonus or eliminated entirely.

Losing a fight can be very expensive for fighters, especially when they are already getting paid so little.
 
The UFC has to lower the salaries. They are paying fighters way too much. No one really needs it anymore, its not about fighting for money, fighters basically are just promoting themselves on social media and have too much money to give it their all. Became a bunch of lazy dudes playing it safe for a paycheck…
 
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