Ankalaev clearly defeated Jan imo...

[StanTheMan]

What? You haven't watched the fight then. The first round Ankalaev had the most significant strikes plus was pressuring Jan more. The second round was clearly Jan's. The third was close, the # significant strikes were even, but Jan had the most impact with the leg kicks, but again, close. The fourth round Ankalaev went in full on takedown and managed to take Jan down, landed several shots to the point that in the last 30 seconds of the round, they were even saying "I don't think the judge will stop yet because it's a championship fight, but that's nasty g&p" ... And in the fifth, he again got the take down and landed more than 14 hard short to Jan's face, almost had him in a submission, and Jan looked totally rocked and barely hanging up...


Like, how were 4th and 5th an Ank snoozer when he pieced Jan in the g&p over and over?? And in the first round, he had 5 higher # sig strikes, plus was the one on the pressure most times? Round 3 was a close round too, with Ankalaev pressuring more, tho the # sig strikes were equal (actually, Ank had one more than Jan), but the leg kicks still did, arguably, more damage... But still, Ankalaev lost only one round clearly, which was round 2. Round 1 it was somewhat close but he had the edge on the stats and on pressure and round 3 was close, too... But rounds 4 and 5 were definitely Ankalaev to the point the last round was the most dominant round from each fighter by far... And it almost had the fight stopped before the bell rung...

These cvnts always talk bollocks. If Big Time is a snoozer, I'd love to know what they think of Poatan after his duck and run performance. LOL

 

[CPH]

Ankalaev looking like he's on the verge of being finished via low kicks matters in a way that is not reflected in the stats. He clearly won 4 and 5 but 1-3 were all razor close. A margin of 1-5 significant strikes is only huge on Sherdog.

 

[Lee Danger]

i think Ank won the presidential election in 2016 too.


God, yesterday the "ank is the best lhw champion of all time" and today this shit: this forum is like some 90s teenager girls magazine...

 

[kingmob6]

if not for the draw, ank would be on a 13 fight winning streak.

 

[MrBlackheart]

I recall live odds have Ank at -400 before the start of the 5th round where he 10-8 Jan. Notice how Jan landed 1 sig strike in the last two rounds. That’s after crippling Ank’s leg earlier in the fight. And all you hear is the narrative Ank inability of taking leg kicks instead of his toughness and resilience. Those who acknowledged the latter knew he would be champ one day.

 

[markys00]

Rewatching a fight isn't the same as watching for the first time

 

[markys00]

I recall live odds have Ank at -400 before the start of the 5th round where he 10-8 Jan. Notice how Jan landed 1 sig strike in the last two rounds. That’s after crippling Ank’s leg earlier in the fight. And all you hear is the narrative Ank inability of taking leg kicks instead of his toughness and resilience. Those who acknowledged the latter knew he would be champ one day.

I also noticed Rogan saying he thought ank won

 

[MrBlackheart]

I also noticed Rogan saying he thought ank won

I thought it was Anik. Either way you look at the end of the fight where Ank was walking with his hands up and Jan laying there half dead.

 

[Luffy]

These cvnts always talk bollocks. If Big Time is a snoozer, I'd love to know what they think of Poatan after his duck and run performance. LOL

He didn't run lulz. The round in which he "ran" was the third one, which btw he didn't run, he was just on the back foot, trying to create angles... So much so he officially outstriked Ankalaev in that round and it wasn't only due to leg kicks, strikes to the head were even. In the 5th round the same, a very close round that had the same # significant strikes from both fighters. All in all, it was a 50/50 fight in which either one could have won.

If anything though, Alex didn't duck when he made it clear he wanted to fight Ankalaev before and was surprised that Khalil was fighting before Ankalaev. Ppl talk about "Dana protecting Alex", well, flash news, after a certain age, fighters don't get better, each fight takes a toll. It ain't Dragon Ball with them being Saiyan's and getting Zenkais or wtv. If they are young yeah, with Alex it was true until a certain point, but he pushed his body a lot doing 4 fights in a year, 2 in short notice... If anything, Ankalaev was being protected by taking on a, perhaps, already weakened Alex. Still, the fight was very close. But wtv

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

I had it 1,2,3 for Jan personally.

 

[Deleted member 504083]

Ank edged out round 1 against Jan while winning a clear 10-8 round 5

Ank won 48-46

 

[deanambrose]

Ank edged out round 1 against Jan while winning a clear 10-8 round 5

Bullshit. Round 1 was close. Significant strikes were the same for both sides if I remember correctly but thing is - majority of those strikes for Ank was light tap to Jan's belly or chest while Jan had powerful shots. Damagewise Jan won this round.
This is clear 1,2,3 Jan 4,5 Ank and deciding factor was round 5 - if it was 10-9 or 10-8.
Draw was the only correct score.

Friendly reminder - it was scheduled to be 3 round fight it was changed day or so before the fight. If it would be the case Jan would won 30-27 or 29-28 decision.

 

[Tokoloko]

I mean, idk why that fight was a draw, honestly... I've re-watched it (I hadn't watched it besides the highlights a long time ago tbh) and the only rounds I give Jan are 2 and 3... The first one I definitely see Ank being more active, landing more significant strikes overall... Round 2 and 3 were Jan's imo but round 3 was somewhat close, but the leg kicks gave him the clear edge. Round 4 and 5 Ankalaev absolutely dominated. And then I looked at the stats and they back it up too...

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Ankalaev noticeably outstriked Jan in the first round and dominated the round 4 and 5... Round 5 was a 10-8 absolutely imo...

Round 1 : 10-9 Ank
Round 2 : 10-9 Jan
Round 3 : 10-9 Jan
Round 4 : 10-9 Ank
Round 5 : 10-8 Ank

Ankalaev : 48 - 46 ....

This one seemed clearer to me than Ankalaev vs Alex Poatan, for sure.


Thoughts?

Thoughts is that i would rather jump out of window than rewatch this stall show where none of these two fighters did anything extra to deserve title which was offered them by absolute accident...

Must be so cool to get title after winning one serious fight vs fighter which have his main hand broken. Kudos to Ankalaev's team. They know how to protect their boy.

Also did yall see stats from Rakič fight? Did yall see fight with Volkan? "BIG ANK is such a beaaaast"

 

[Deleted member 504083]

Bullshit. Round 1 was close. Significant strikes were the same for both sides if I remember correctly but thing is - majority of those strikes for Ank was light tap to Jan's belly or chest while Jan had powerful shots. Damagewise Jan won this round.
This is clear 1,2,3 Jan 4,5 Ank and deciding factor was round 5 - if it was 10-9 or 10-8.
Draw was the only correct score.

Effective striking was even, and Ank was the clear aggressor. 10-9 Ank with a clear 10-8 round 5.

Friendly reminder - it was scheduled to be 3 round fight it was changed day or so before the fight. If it would be the case Jan would won 30-27 or 29-28 decision.

Ank would've had a completely different gameplan for a 3 round fight.

 

[Tweak896]

The UFC didn't want this at the time even though now they are half way there...

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I would be curious how much money UFC gets from Abu Dhabi + fans that buy those cards vs fans buying all the other cards. I wouldn't be surprised if the oil shieks gave them more money with investments in the company and paying for events than the non-middle east fighters have earned from fan PPV buys. Over time ESPN, Middle East, and Sponsors eclipse the money normal fans send to the UFC. Sadly it's become irrelevant whether we buy PPV or not.

 

[Luffy]

Bullshit. Round 1 was close. Significant strikes were the same for both sides if I remember correctly but thing is - majority of those strikes for Ank was light tap to Jan's belly or chest while Jan had powerful shots. Damagewise Jan won this round.
This is clear 1,2,3 Jan 4,5 Ank and deciding factor was round 5 - if it was 10-9 or 10-8.
Draw was the only correct score.

Friendly reminder - it was scheduled to be 3 round fight it was changed day or so before the fight. If it would be the case Jan would won 30-27 or 29-28 decision.

It was close but it had a clear edge to Ankalalev. And those shots weren't predominantly light taps to the belly, they were either significant jabs or kicks to the body, which made Jan take steps back and a breath twice... Plus, you can clearly see Ankalaev got a couple of significant straight left and a couple of significant jabs... Which was also the reason Jan was in the back foot for most of that round. Jan had significant strikes to the body and to the head to, but like Alex in the third round, he was on the back foot for most of the round. And got more hits landed than vice versa, whereas Alex being in the back foot still managed outstrike Ankalaev in the significant strikes. Tbh, if Ankalaev won round 3 vs Alex, the first one vs Jan was as much on Ank's favour as the 3rd one vs Alex, arguably the one vs Alex was closer when looking at the round as a whole...

Heck, round 3 of Ankalaev vs Jan was also a close one... True that Ankalalev clearly felt significant pain on a leg kick sequence, which is why he retreated, changed stances twice in the middle of the third round. Before that though, the round was being competitive, with both getting on equally good effective strikes. Ankalaev got Jan in the clinch at the last part of round 3 though, and pulled slightly ahead in the significant strikes. Granted that in the clinch, many hits were kees to the tights without much significance, but he managed to get good knees and punches to the body in the clinch, partially getting a take down at the last seconds... Round 3 to me, seemed like the 5th round of Ank vs Jan in terms of dominance, a similar pattern — both Jan and Alex start even exchanging shots but manage to pull ahead by stunning Ankalaev, Jan with the leg kicks and Alex, with the head kick and the jabs to the body and to the face... Curiously, both in round 3 vs Jan and in round 5 vs Alex, Ank set up the takedown the same way, feinting a punch and going to the leg. Vs Jan though, he clearly had more success in the third round with the grappling, as unlike vs Alex where he landed in the clinch all knees to the tight and nothing else, vs Jan he landed powerful shots to the body, getting a takedown in the last seconds, finishing stronger...

Overall, it's just confusing to me... Round 1 of Jan vs Ankalaev was similar to round 3 of Jan vs Alex... Very similar when watching it without looking at the stats. The stats show though, that Ankalaev outstriked Jan, besides being the one to pressure, while vs Alex, Ank was the one to pressure as well, but got outstriked. Round 3 of Ank vs Jan was similar to round 5 of Ank vs Alex in its pattern, very similar... Though Ank had it arguably better vs Jan in R3 than vs Alex in R5, as when Alex hurt him, his clinch wasn't effective besides stoping Alex's momentum, while vs Jan, he got more solid hits as Jan wasn't controlling Ank's wrists as well as Alex was, so much so Jan got taken down at the end...

It's confusing why the judges would give round 1 and 3 to Jan, but not round 3 to Alex... Even though round 3 vs Pereira was as close as (closer actually when looking deeply) than R1 vs Jan, and R5 vs Pereira was as close as the third round between Ank and Jan... It's kind of random. I mean, Ankalaev vs Alex was clearly closer, looking round by round as it should, than Ank vs Jan... Yes, Ankalaev was arguably considerably more damaged vs Jan than vs Alex, but Jan was way more damaged vs Ank than Alex vs Ank... Alex took damage in round 2, but even then, not as much as Jan took in rounds 4 and 5, while having taken considerable damage in the first three rounds too. Jan needed to stay sitting, was bloody after the fight, while Ank finished smiling, running with his arms raised. Both Alex and Ank finished the fight raising their arms, though neither were smiling, both Alex and Ank were raising their arms while tired and not that sure themselves....