Ancient megalithic structures and sites.

To me Pumapunku in Bolivia beats them all. If there is proof of alien existence, this is it. How can a people with one foot in the 'stone age' and no language accomplish this? Masonry today can barely accomplish this.




Cuts and holes in rocks is "proof of alien existence" for you?

Bro, the Parthenon was built some 1000 years before that.

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Somehow, I don't find the argument "the stones were too big/too finely cut/too perfectly fitted together" compelling (οr arguments like "they couldn't have drawn very long straight lines", etc.).

They are stones. Ancient dudes found a way to finely cut/sand and carry them around.

Humans in antiquity, and even in prehistoric times, had brains as large as ours. And a lot of time on their hands. They could use tools and knew about geometry and constellations and shit.

Plus, they had slavery. It's always helpful if you can throw unlimited amounts of human anguish and suffering at whatever project you have on your mind.

Modern technology has a hard time recreating the precise stone work. Look into those black boxes found in Egypt. You're not doing that with hand tools.

Yes the ancients (not the Inca or Egyptians) knew how to cut them and move them. It was a civilization that was killed off in a cataclysmic event.
 
that's all rational...the problem is you mentioned the bolded above, the greatest minds over the past several thousand years, including in modern times, still have no consensus on how some of this stuff was done, the most scrutiny of course being on the Great Pyramid at Giza. I think you overestimate by a lot what that guy moving 1 ton blocks around has to do with building a 400+ foot high building out of 2.3 million stones weighing tons each into a perfect geometrical shape with an incredibly complicated inner architecture. It's not even remotely the same thing, or even concept.

Ofcourse I by no means think that I could reverse engineer the pyramids in theory. But just because I don't know doesn't mean that it couldn't have a perfectly normal explanation. Modern minds of our time haven't thought as long as the Egyptians who might have spend way longer thinking about it. I'm sure it's complex and all, but if you just count up all the factors that contribute to the Egyptians having a lot of ability to make these complex structures doesn't mean there is magic in the world or whatever. There's plenty of things we don't know. Also, in regards to physicists really having no idea on how the pyramids were made, that is also something I am doubtful of. It's the same as with magicians, people aren't interested in hearing the explanation of it, they much rather just talk endlessly about how they dont know how it's done. Sometimes this is just so they can say there is stuff we don't know and we can't say that we know for sure that their wacky belief system isn't false. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the pyramids have already been figured out many times but these explanation just gets flooded by the amount of talk about how no one knows.

And when you look at that video and look at this picture you could very well build a huge simple pyramid in years if you have hundreds of slaves.

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Our inabiity to reverse engineer the pyramids in theory doesn't justify all the wacky theories some people present. Sure I feel the attraction to think like that and wanting to believe it and wanting to revere some entity and whatever but choose not to indulge in something that is so unlikely. Maybe what I'm trying to say is just that Occam's Razor applies to knowledge in general. In the past we always have had logical explanations for things we didn't used to know, then the extraordinary claims can just be put away with by Occam's razor. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary explanations, which as they are unproven can be dealt away with by Occam' razor.
 
Most of the Native Americans lived like primitive level civilization, yeah. But quite a few had developed advanced civilizations: the Mayans, Aztecs, etc. I'm not sure why you're calling them "primitive man". And how they could build these structures has been readily explained.

Perhaps they had a substance that dissolved the granite and basalt.

Perhaps they used that one redneck's engineering techniques.

But aliens
It’s borderline racist. The Inca’s controlled millions of people, had a huge road system, a safety net, and a centrally planned economy. They were technologically inferior to Europeans because they were isolated from the old world and all of their technology and ideas but they were clearly very smart and not “primitive”

You would think that they were cavemen building huge structures
 
i figure if ancient civilizations were advanced enough to build items like the pyramids and other unique structures throughout the earth, then they also likely had powerful weapons that could possibly be on, or above the level of a nuclear warhead.

too many people seem to discount the human propensity to destroy.
Except for the famous pyramids of Egypt, pyramids are incredibly easy to build, they’re essentially just stacking rocks on top of rocks. A very long ways from nuclear technology
 
Modern technology has a hard time recreating the precise stone work. Look into those black boxes found in Egypt. You're not doing that with hand tools.
You mean stones with flat surfaces and right angles?

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Yeah, it's probably giants with laser cutting tools.
 
nephilim

and the great flood destroyed or at least buried most of the prominent tech from these ancient civilizations in the oceans, probably destroyed with all that pressure
 
It's very interesting
Those Egyptians few thousand years ago knew shit

how they built giza is mad.
 
i know they didnt have steel back then but maybe using harder rocks as a hammer could work.

 
Ofcourse I by no means think that I could reverse engineer the pyramids in theory. But just because I don't know doesn't mean that it couldn't have a perfectly normal explanation. Modern minds of our time haven't thought as long as the Egyptians who might have spend way longer thinking about it. I'm sure it's complex and all, but if you just count up all the factors that contribute to the Egyptians having a lot of ability to make these complex structures doesn't mean there is magic in the world or whatever. There's plenty of things we don't know. Also, in regards to physicists really having no idea on how the pyramids were made, that is also something I am doubtful of. It's the same as with magicians, people aren't interested in hearing the explanation of it, they much rather just talk endlessly about how they dont know how it's done. Sometimes this is just so they can say there is stuff we don't know and we can't say that we know for sure that their wacky belief system isn't false. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the pyramids have already been figured out many times but these explanation just gets flooded by the amount of talk about how no one knows.

And when you look at that video and look at this picture you could very well build a huge simple pyramid in years if you have hundreds of slaves.

b1dd887eed3e4abf818beb208e90249c.jpg


Our inabiity to reverse engineer the pyramids in theory doesn't justify all the wacky theories some people present. Sure I feel the attraction to think like that and wanting to believe it and wanting to revere some entity and whatever but choose not to indulge in something that is so unlikely. Maybe what I'm trying to say is just that Occam's Razor applies to knowledge in general. In the past we always have had logical explanations for things we didn't used to know, then the extraordinary claims can just be put away with by Occam's razor. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary explanations, which as they are unproven can be dealt away with by Occam' razor.
I'll just address two points, because that is all that needs addressing here.

1.) nobody who has looked at the Great Pyramid at Giza, not even the staunchest fan of Occum's Razor proponent, believes slaves were at all involved in the construction of the monument. It is now universally agreed, and rightfully so, that this was the work of skilled workers throughout and at the top of the chain master architects who built something that makes modern architects blush.

2.) you don't need to accept "wacky" theories to accept the fact that we still have no consensus how it was built. It is obvious why, and we are stuck in between the stupidity of "copper chisels, elbow grease and stone hammers" and "it was aliens" or "levitation power"...the real truth is that this was built by an uber sophisticated architectural mind at a developed stage of understanding of complicated math and physics along with stone working...the tools that were used, whatever they were, are simply gone.

The greatest minds in history have pondered the Great Pyramid and we're still learning new things about it...and still haven't solved how they did it, why or when. It all has to do with humans and it is a testament to how little of our human history is truly recorded...which in the end brings us to the search for why.
 
Humans have been smart a long time.

or aliens
 
Humans have been smart a long time.

or aliens
Anatomically modern humans are around 200k years old. Probably older than that by some margin. These people were exactly as capable mentally and physically as us.

We know essentially fuck all about what human beings we're doing for about 193k of those years. Everyone should think about that juxtaposed with the fact that we can from Sumer to today in 7k years.
 
You mean stones with flat surfaces and right angles?

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Yeah, it's probably giants with laser cutting tools.

The place to get into where those “bull sarcophagi” are located doesn’t actually fit the boxes. We couldn’t take those things out of there even if we wanted to without digging them out.
 
Peru had thousands of years of civilization by 500 AD and I’m assuming you meant no written language which is true but they had a strange system of record keeping that I dont remember at the moment.

My mistake. The 'Tiwanaku' people are believed to have been speakers of the old 'Puquina' language, which is now extinct. They had no known written language. "Elephants are clearly visible in some of the carvings. Elephants aren't native to South America."

Bro, the Parthenon was built some 1000 years before that.

. Parthenon: 432 B.C.
. Puma Punku: 15,000 B.C.
 
My mistake. The 'Tiwanaku' people are believed to have been speakers of the old 'Puquina' language, which is now extinct. They had no known written language. "Elephants are clearly visible in some of the carvings. Elephants aren't native to South America."



. Parthenon: 432 B.C.
. Puma Punku: 15,000 B.C.
Pumapunku is 500 AD man. It becomes a lot less impressive when you find that out. The old world was far more impressive due to an interconnected flow of technology and ideas from as Far East as China all the way to Europe


And I don’t know what specific elephant carving you’re talking about but I’ve seen sculptures of “elephants” from native Americans and they’re just tapirs

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“Native to the Andes Mountains, the mountain tapir is one of the most endangered large mammals on Earth.”
 
Anatomically modern humans are around 200k years old. Probably older than that by some margin. These people were exactly as capable mentally and physically as us.

We know essentially fuck all about what human beings we're doing for about 193k of those years. Everyone should think about that juxtaposed with the fact that we can from Sumer to today in 7k years.

We don’t know fuck all about what the top humans are doing now.
 
Pumapunku is 500 AD man. It becomes a lot less impressive when you find that out.

Yes, I read that too, but both dates are actually in question. So, I would put it between 15,000 B.C. and 500 A.D. That is a very good point on the 'tapir'. Maybe that solves the 'elephant' carving issue.


 
@Black Helicopters

I don't think you'll find this at the 'Parthenon'. The 'Tiwanaku' people were a much different culture than the Greeks, even for 500 A.D.


 
I wonder if the underwater Yonaguri site in Japan with right angles everywhere was where ancients cut slabs of rock from before it became submerged.
 
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