am I missing something with Petr/Sean?

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Let's go from grappling-centric all the way to boxing-centric rulesets.

1. Who would be more likely to win if this was a grappling-only match?
2. Who would be more likely to win an MMA fight?
3. Who would be more likely to win a kickboxing fight?
4. Who would be more likely to win a boxing match?

The answer, for every single one of the above, is Petr IMO. He is literally better everywhere. If you pressed me to be creative and even come up with a POSSIBLE way Sean can win, it is only via stealing a first round where basically nothing happens, then being awarded a controversial second round on 2 judges cards that most fans think he lost, then emphatically losing the third yet winning a SD.

Yet many pro fighters... to include guys who I know do decent analysis... have this pained look on their face and lament how "hard" it is to pick a winner. None of them really explain it well as to why it is hard (no I didn't watch all 50 or whatever interviews) but I am legit shocked so many said this. This is the LEAST hard analysis ever... Petr is better literally everywhere. They flat-out aren't on the same level. Or am I missing something?



 
Let's go from grappling-centric all the way to boxing-centric rulesets.

1. Who would be more likely to win if this was a grappling-only match?
2. Who would be more likely to win an MMA fight?
3. Who would be more likely to win a kickboxing fight?
4. Who would be more likely to win a boxing match?

The answer, for every single one of the above, is Petr IMO. He is literally better everywhere. If you pressed me to be creative and even come up with a POSSIBLE way Sean can win, it is only via stealing a first round where basically nothing happens, then being awarded a controversial second round on 2 judges cards that most fans think he lost, then emphatically losing the third yet winning a SD.

Yet many pro fighters... to include guys who I know do decent analysis... have this pained look on their face and lament how "hard" it is to pick a winner. None of them really explain it well as to why it is hard (no I didn't watch all 50 or whatever interviews) but I am legit shocked so many said this. This is the LEAST hard analysis ever... Petr is better literally everywhere. They flat-out aren't on the same level. Or am I missing something?




No reason to watch the fight anyways then?
 
I watch to see if O'malley can rise to the occasion. That's one of the most exciting things in this sport. When a fighter rises to the occasion and suprises. O'malleys standup has been looking phenomenal in some fights, and average in other fights. Let's see how good he really is.
 
Sean is a glass cannon. People tend to underestimate his standup because he looks like a clown. Yan is very technically sound but he is not a power puncher. Yan is also a slow starter. Yan has a big reach/height disadvantage but he has shown he can fight taller fighters. Yan does outclass opponents but it is rarely an easy fight where he steamrolls the opponent. Yan is the betting favorite. He is most likely going to win by decision but the odds should be closer.
 
I bet UFC is hoping Petr Yan takes 2 rounds to get going like he always does, which is why they scheduled this fight for 3 rounds opposed to 5 rounds.

By the time Yan gets into the fight, it may be too late to win on points. I think Yan still destroys him, but there is a possibility that he could lose a close decision because of how long it takes him to read his opponent.
 
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Only thing Rainbow Brite can hope for is the Yan's on the Moraes track of looking amazing but getting caught. That's a mean dude and he's going to walk Sean down. The 2nd calf kick will get an Oh shit reaction and ginger limp.
 
It’s not a fight that should be happening. Sean hasn’t beaten a single ranked fighter in his 5 years in the UFC, why is he now in a #1 contender fight instead of Chito or Merab? It’s disgusting that they’re trying to rocket him up to the belt like this without beating anyone in front of him. Just a reminder that this is not a sport and cannot be taken seriously.

as for the fight itself, even though Yan is much more skilled and experienced, in 3 rounds the dimensions and style matchup favors the taller, longer front runner in O’Malley over the shorter, slower starting Yan. UFC did this deliberately because it’s the most winnable high ranked fight they could give him stylistically, I expect a corrupt SD robbery in Sugarlegs favor.
 
Only problem is, you can’t say “X is a better boxer than Y” based on things you saw in MMA fights. Sean could very well be a better striker than Yan and we wouldn’t know.
 
If anything Omalley might be a bit flashier not sure if better on pure striking, not that hard to pick Yan here as the clear favorite imo, but i guess fighters are being company man not shitting on Omalley.
 
I'm rooting for O'Malley I want to see what he's got, let's gooo
 
Yet many pro fighters... to include guys who I know do decent analysis... have this pained look on their face and lament how "hard" it is to pick a winner.
methinks you're taking all this more seriously than they are.

1. Who would be more likely to win if this was a grappling-only match?
2. Who would be more likely to win an MMA fight?
3. Who would be more likely to win a kickboxing fight?
4. Who would be more likely to win a boxing match?

The answer, for every single one of the above, is Petr IMO.

What is he, a 4-1 underdog? 5-1? Ya, it appears most people agree with you.

99% of the time, his only path to victory is to win the first round (he's a fast starter, Yan is a slow starter, and he is decent at dictating range and Yan is smaller), and then somehow eke out another round. 1% chance of random other finish.
 
Don't rule out the options of o'Malley winning by DQ from an illegal knee on the head, or o'Malley poking yan in the eyes and striking before yan recovers.
 
i love yan but i got a feeling omalley will piece him up,range+hype+3rounder+yan is a slow starter
 
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