Alt-right vs. Tea Party

[TheComebackKid]

Under no circumstances would I ever defend most of the behavior depicted in that video. Of course there are idiots of all political persuasions. Anyone who attacks someone physically at a political rally (particularly from behind) is a criminal and deserves to be in jail. That said:









So yeah.....Y'all got some real fucking geniuses on your side of the aisle too, pal.

Theres really no comparison. Let me know when mobs of "alt right" people are marching down the street in angry mobs attacking every Elizabeth Warren supporter they see.

 

[Ruprecht]

What's the troll? I realize you don't have a right leaning (read: individual liberty leaning) philosophy that's responsible for a population's genocide to blame, but that doesn't mean you can't just cry racist, bigot, homophobe to complete your argument.

I see, so that's a, "yes".

 

[Greoric]

I see, so that's a, "yes".

However. Anything for you sweetheart.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Hey guys! Here's some visually eye candy for the rage porn alt right cuck circle jerk have fun!

 

[Satur9]

Hey guys! Here's some visually eye candy for the rage porn alt right cuck circle jerk have fun!

I would take umbrage if I was so sensitive, so you will have to settle for fake outrage instead...

How dare you!!!

Spoiler

im right-ish, but not weirdo alt-right.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

The only people I see mentioning white supremecy are liberal cucks not those who identify as alt right.

Lol @ those falling for the spin.

Yeah because we didnt just have a thread on here defending white nationalism.


http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-white-nationalism.3309925/

 

[TheGreatA]

Yeah because we didnt just have a thread on here defending white nationalism.


http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/what-do-you-think-of-white-nationalism.3309925/

The thread, in the beginning, had very little to do with white supremacy, until it devolved into a mud-slinging contest between the usual suspects. People should be able to handle conversations about what it means to be a "white man", or whether it means anything in this day and age. The pink elephant in the room ought not to be ignored.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

The thread, in the beginning, had very little to do with white supremacy, until it devolved into a mud-slinging contest between the usual suspects. People should be able to handle conversations about what it means to be a "white man", or whether it means anything in this day and age. The pink elephant in the room ought not to be ignored.

A thread talking about a hypothetical where land in America and Canada is used to prop up a white only nation had nothing to do with white supremacy?

Again I must ask what is the point of a white only nation?

 

[TheGreatA]

A thread talking about a hypothetical where land in America and Canada is used to prop up a white only nation had nothing to do with white supremacy?

Again I must ask what is the point of a white only nation?

The OP made it quite clear that he is not in favour of supremacist thinking, and merely asked the question about whether a "white" nation would be viable, and the subsequent posts did a pretty good job in arguing why a "white-only" nation is in many ways a flawed concept, without getting overly emotional about it.

The point of a "white only" nation would be to eliminate racial tensions and racial inequality within a society. If black people governed their own areas while white people governed their own, there would be no possibility of systematic oppression and racism.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

The OP made it quite clear that he is not in favour of supremacist thinking, and merely asked the question about whether a "white" nation would be viable, and the subsequent posts did a pretty good job in arguing why a "white-only" nation is in many ways a flawed concept, without getting overly emotional about it.

The point of a "white only" nation would be to eliminate racial tensions and racial inequality within a society. If black people governed their own areas while white people governed their own, there would be no possibility of systematic oppression and racism.

Lol he revealed quite clearly that he was in favour of white supremacist thinking when he fell back on those arguments after people showed him the flaws in his concept.

I guess it's hard to oppress people when it's illegal for them to exist in your country lol.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Tea party = Taxed Enough Already. That's self-explanatory.

Alt Right = ????? I think folks are still throwing spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks when it comes to labeling the Alt Right. TBD.

 

[TheGreatA]

Lol he revealed quite clearly that he was in favour of white supremacist thinking when he fell back on those arguments after people showed him the flaws in his concept.

I guess it's hard to oppress people when it's illegal for them to exist in your country lol.

White nationalism isn't inherent proof of white supremacy though. It is more of an admittance of defeat in the face of continuous racial problems in the world. Many Asian and African countries pursue similar policies, I wouldn't call them supremacist, it is simply a crude but effective way to reduce instabilities within a population and to make it easier to govern.

White supremacist thinking would include the idea of inherent superiority, and the exploitation of other races for the "white man's" gain. From what I saw, the OP never suggested such things, thus it would be unjust to call him a "white supremacist".

 

[PolishHeadlock]

White nationalism isn't inherent proof of white supremacy though. It is more of an admittance of defeat in the face of continuous racial problems in the world. Many Asian and African countries pursue similar policies, I wouldn't call them supremacist, it is simply a crude but effective way to reduce instabilities within a population and to make it easier to govern.

White supremacist thinking would include the idea of inherent superiority, and the exploitation of other races for the "white man's" gain. From what I saw, the OP never suggested such things, thus it would be unjust to call him a "white supremacist".

He definitely suggested those things when he was talking about crime rates as one of the main reasons as to why he would prefer a white only nation.

And what countries currently base immigration on race?

 

[TheGreatA]

He definitely suggested those things when he was talking about crime rates as one of the main reasons as to why he would prefer a white only nation.

And what countries currently base immigration on race?

Israel is a prime example. Japan, Poland in Europe. Most Muslim countries. Zimbabwe tossed out all the whites.

The crime rates are facts. People may have differing views on what causes those crime rates to originate, whether it is based on race or circumstances. It might be, that in a "multi-cultural" society, the struggling minority is always doomed to experience greater poverty and crime than the demographical majority. If a "multi-cultural" society is an inherently flawed concept, then a white nation and a black nation would make sense.

However, I'm more of a proponent for strong integration policies (probably too strong for most people here) and unity regardless of racial barriers, than this type of "defeatist" thinking.

 

[Thunderflash500]

Alt right is fine with me. They are more sensible libertarians. They are rational liberals. Not hate mongering bigots like the left. Not government loving freaks on the right.

Sometimes I think the right forgets what a bunch of fuck ups they are just because Obama has been a failure. It's like they forgot the oppressive expansion of government they all cheered for. Boot licking cucks.

 

[Handsomebwonderfull]

A thread talking about a hypothetical where land in America and Canada is used to prop up a white only nation had nothing to do with white supremacy?

Again I must ask what is the point of a white only nation?

Ask Sweden. Lol oh my. I'll go there. Let's just deal with that elephant in the room.

White people's culture is superior. Not the race, but the culture. Nations that have "westernized" or accepted white culture are superior. Better quality of living, more scientific advances, etc. yeah it's an ugly statement but let's face facts

Africa is a giant shithole now only thing close to decent is South Africa which is now falling off. Gee I wonder why.

South American nations are either led by dictators, drug cartels or are crime ridden hell holes. The only decent countries in Central America like Belize pretty much are ran by white people. Cayman Islands versus Cuba.

Then Asian. India is a nightmare land, China is a cancer bomb waiting to go off the only countries in asia worth a shit Japan, Taiwan, South Korea are "white" or westernized countries.

The worse white countries in the world are still above average compared to the rest of the world.

It's not a race thing. It's a culture thing.
Keep in mind I'm a liberal Obama fan and I'm saying this. African culture, Asian culture, Latino culture, Arabic culture, they are all shit and need to be abandoned.

So once again ask Sweden if they want multiculturalism or white culture. (I'm pretty sure Sweden has crazy high rape rates now thanks to immigrants and nutty laws)

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Israel is a prime example. Japan, Poland in Europe. Most Muslim countries. Zimbabwe tossed out all the whites.

The crime rates are facts. People may have differing views on what causes those crime rates to originate, whether it is based on race or circumstances. It might be, that in a "multi-cultural" society, the struggling minority is always doomed to experience greater poverty and crime than the demographical majority. If a "multi-cultural" society is an inherently flawed concept, then a white nation and a black nation would make sense.

However, I'm more of a proponent for strong integration policies (probably too strong for most people here) and unity regardless of racial barriers, than this type of "defeatist" thinking.

I'm not sure of your examples.

Japan doesn'teven allow other Asians in and many would say Japan does adhere to Japanese supremacy.

Doesn't Israel have a decent sized Arab population?

Does Poland allow non Poles but exclude based on race?

As far as your second paragraph you can dig deeper than race to find crime statistics. Look at Cambodians compared to other the general Asian race in America along with Nigerian immigrants to the ancestors of the US slave population.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Ask Sweden. Lol oh my. I'll go there. Let's just deal with that elephant in the room.

White people's culture is superior. Not the race, but the culture. Nations that have "westernized" or accepted white culture are superior. Better quality of living, more scientific advances, etc. yeah it's an ugly statement but let's face facts

Africa is a giant shithole now only thing close to decent is South Africa which is now falling off. Gee I wonder why.

South American nations are either led by dictators, drug cartels or are crime ridden hell holes. The only decent countries in Central America like Belize pretty much are ran by white people. Cayman Islands versus Cuba.

Then Asian. India is a nightmare land, China is a cancer bomb waiting to go off the only countries in asia worth a shit Japan, Taiwan, South Korea are "white" or westernized countries.

The worse white countries in the world are still above average compared to the rest of the world.

It's not a race thing. It's a culture thing.
Keep in mind I'm a liberal Obama fan and I'm saying this. African culture, Asian culture, Latino culture, Arabic culture, they are all shit and need to be abandoned.

So once again ask Sweden if they want multiculturalism or white culture. (I'm pretty sure Sweden has crazy high rape rates now thanks to immigrants and nutty laws)

Oh....

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

A thread talking about a hypothetical where land in America and Canada is used to prop up a white only nation had nothing to do with white supremacy?

Again I must ask what is the point of a white only nation?

The point is to avoid this

He definitely suggested those things when he was talking about crime rates as one of the main reasons as to why he would prefer a white only nation.

And what countries currently base immigration on race?

Japan, Russia, Saudi Arabia and a few others. It is not blatantly on racial grounds, Japan doesn't say "we only take japanese people as citizens" but in practice they do, once in a while they give citizenship to a high achieving westerner, while any idiot with japanese ancestry can migrate there.

Japan now is one of the safest countries on earth, there are no terrorists, no cartels, no riots, no BLM.

I'd ask the reverse question, what is the point to let in non-white/east asian/ people into a country? I mean from a large scale point of view, sure bringing in some physicist from pakistan is good but that could still happen on a case by case basis.
Take France, for example, outside of sports and food the 10% muslim population didn't bring anything worth their cost in increased crime and terrorism.
In the USA, blacks aren't really immigrants but anyway, outside of sports and music they have very rarely contributed anything substantial compared to the enormous amount of crimes they commit and the amount of welfare they need.
You can cite some outliers like Neil deGrasse or Ben Carson, but they aren't enough to tip the balance.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

I'm not sure of your examples.

Japan doesn'teven allow other Asians in and many would say Japan does adhere to Japanese supremacy.

Doesn't Israel have a decent sized Arab population?

Does Poland allow non Poles but exclude based on race?

As far as your second paragraph you can dig deeper than race to find crime statistics. Look at Cambodians compared to other the general Asian race in America along with Nigerian immigrants to the ancestors of the US slave population.

Israel only has Arabs that already lived there before 1948 and didn't run away after the war. They cannot simply deport them.