All UFC content removed from ESPN+

Luthien said:
Hopefully the new guys have some standards
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Yeah, they have standards...Double Woke-Ass standards.
 
I love it.

The UFC thought they were going to duplicate the whole "Come to me with 4.3 billion dollars a year and we'll talk!" and ESPN was going to just roll over. ESPN made it clear they weren't in for the UFC's asking pricetag, because it's not even worth what their current deal is costing them.

Netflix doesn't want anything to do with the UFC. Wrestling is scripted. You can fabricate storylines and create the drama, and keep to a schedule because it is a product that can be controlled. The only thing the UFC has really proven is that it used to able to but now they drop the ball constantly. They are literally trying to market a product that has clearly been sterilized and is a shadow of what it used to be.

Why get into bed where there is a fair-to-good chance Netflix gets treated the same way the UFC has treated ESPN? That is infinitely more risky than going with wrestling.

Someone will buy it, someone will overpay for it, and then the UFC and all its shill will gloat like they won the lottery themselves and are true visionairies.

The UFC is laying the foundation, but I don't think it is for the massive overhaul top-to-bottom which is appearing quite necessary.
 
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PeterGriffin said:
Someone will buy it, someone will overpay for it, and then the UFC and all its shill will gloat like they won the lottery themselves and are true visionairies.
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It's ironic because dana likes to criticize boxing promoters citing that every event is a "going out of business sale" but as far as broadcasting deals, Is the UFC not the same?

Seems like they rugpull every broadcast partner they have. First spike, then fox, now ESPN, Has the UFC ever resigned with an existing broadcast partner? or do none choose to resign after they grossly overpay for the first contract? UFC can't even keep reebok, and they suck.
 
ive had a few replies, but i still dont see why the anger is being directed at ESPN, UFC signed the deal, they are responsible for the cards and if the deal they signed is for a platform that is shit, that is their own fault(UFC)

"the UFC doesnt care they are getting paid" - then stop buying the fucking subs and PPVs, they will soon care when they have to negotiate again and the next company in line are looking at the shit PPV numbers and subscriptions, i almost feel like some people only arrived here a few days ago
 
I remember some poster on here not too long ago complain about just signing up for ESPN for a year or something and was worried that UFC was gonna get scrapped and someone else calmed him down saying that it would at least be there for the rest of the year.


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RockyLockridge said:
It's ironic because dana likes to criticize boxing promoters citing that every event is a "going out of business sale" but as far as broadcasting deals, Is the UFC not the same?

Seems like they rugpull every broadcast partner they have. First spike, then fox, now ESPN, Has the UFC ever resigned with an existing broadcast partner? or do none choose to resign after they grossly overpay for the first contract? UFC can't even keep reebok, and they suck.
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Not only that, none of their outgoing business partners ever seem too broken up about it. Post-Zuffa UFC has made it clear that it is them first, all others be damned including business partners.

The ESPN deal was a learning experience for not just ESPN and the UFC, but every potential future partner. This is what happens when a talent agency owns a organization. Real sports broadcasters have seen all the red flags that comes with the UFC's product.
 
treelo said:
"the UFC doesnt care they are getting paid" - then stop buying the fucking subs and PPVs, they will soon care when they have to negotiate again and the next company in line are looking at the shit PPV numbers and subscriptions, i almost feel like some people only arrived here a few days ago
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Let me explain it to you like this:

If your boss offered you a promotion where you get paid more, while never demanding that do you more, would you do more anyway so when it comes time for a performance evaluation you can say you did more? Why do more when you've not been asked to? Why do better when you've been promoted regardless anyway?


also, for what it's worth if you actually DO pay for the subs and then the subsequent ppv, It actually gltiches, freezes, times out and does everything an illegal stream would do. You pay a sub, the sub gives you permission to buy a ppv (unheard of, but okay....) then it doesn't even work right. Like wtf? If you're going to provide PPV that requires a SUB to buy, it had better fucking work right.
 
PeterGriffin said:
The ESPN deal was a learning experience for not just ESPN and the UFC, but every potential future partner. This is what happens when a talent agency owns a organization. Real sports broadcasters have seen all the red flags that comes with the UFC's product.
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But this is the part i cant wrap my head around, The UFC has done a great job at steadily rising, from spike to now espn.....

If they keep burning bridges, they'll have no where to go.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Let me explain it to you like this:

If your boss offered you a promotion where you get paid more, while never demanding that do you more, would you do more anyway so when it comes time for a performance evaluation you can say you did more? Why do more when you've not been asked to? Why do better when you've been promoted regardless anyway?


also, for what it's worth if you actually DO pay for the subs and then the subsequent ppv, It actually gltiches, freezes, times out and does everything an illegal stream would do. You pay a sub, the sub gives you permission to buy a ppv (unheard of, but okay....) then it doesn't even work right. Like wtf? If you're going to provide PPV that requires a SUB to buy, it had better fucking work right.
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what a strange analogy to make, the UFC isnt a person, its a product, so it has a contract with a company, and when they need to negotiate with a new company, they will probably have to provide solid numbers and financial information to them, so the new company knows it is worth the investment

again, it just seems like UFC fans are listening to Dana and he is pointing the finger at ESPN, well maybe go with a company that isnt fucking retarded, its a very odd take

its like moving something to a cloud solution and then complaining that the cloud solution is shit, guess what, that is on them for moving to that solution that doesnt fucking work

if the UFC doesnt give a fuck about performance or SLA's then how is that ESPNs fault, you morons are still subbing and paying for PPVs that dont work
 
treelo said:
they will probably have to provide solid numbers and financial information to them, so the new company knows it is worth the investment
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but it hasn't been a good investment even once, if it were, theses partners would resign with the ufc but they haven't yet. because the UFC paints a pretty picture for them that ends up an ugly reality.
treelo said:
again, it just seems like UFC fans are listening to Dana and he is pointing the finger at ESPN, well maybe go with a company that isnt fucking retarded, its a very odd take

its like moving something to a cloud solution and then complaining that the cloud solution is shit, guess what, that is on them for moving to that solution that doesnt fucking work
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Espn is the biggest sports broadcaster in the world and it charges a sub. there is no excuse to have it not work 100% functionally. this is absolutely espns fault as it is their service. The UFC should Expect that the worlds biggest sports broadcaster can, well, broadcast sports.

treelo said:
if the UFC doesnt give a fuck about performance or SLA's then how is that ESPNs fault, you morons are still subbing and paying for PPVs that dont work
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LOL Now im certain you dont understand what's going on, at all.

Espn has removed the burden of ppv performance and SLA's for the UFC. Espn Paying upfront for ppvs that haven't happened yet is their way of saying "don't worry about the quality, just make sure there is x amount of events, and x amount of ppvs per year" to which UFC obliges.

What everyone was able to gather from the initial deal with ESPN is that they just want to flood their network with content. Quality be damned. Yes, I suppose i theoretically COULD blame the UFC for watering down their product, but they are obeying the standard that has been set by their broadcast partner
 
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ESPN sucks and is overpriced. It went from basic cable slop that was included in every package before the days of streaming to charging as much as entire streaming service.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think the ESPN+ deal ruined the UFC. That guaranteed revenue of 300k PPVs no matter what made Dana lazy and complacent, and he put on slop card after slop card.

Now all of a sudden he's gotta hunt for his food again, and I think he's realizing he's too old for this shit.
 
RockyLockridge said:
LOL Now im certain you dont understand what's going on, at all.

Espn has removed the burden of ppv performance and SLA's for the UFC. Espn Paying upfront for ppvs that haven't happened yet is their way of saying "don't worry about the quality, just make sure there is x amount of events, and x amount of ppvs per year" to which UFC obliges.

What everyone was able to gather from the initial deal with ESPN is that they just want to flood their network with content. Quality be damned. Yes, I suppose i theoretically COULD blame the UFC for watering down their product, but they are obeying the standard that has been set by their broadcast partner
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You know what i do when a product is shit and doesnt work like it should do?
 
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