Prediction: $50 bucks a month to get all UFC fight night events NOT PPVs

[Lycandroid]

Words have a meaning, They mean what they mean. Piracy isn't theft, It's counterfeitting AT BEST. There is a distinct difference between the two.

If you REMOVED the money from my account you'd be stealing it, if you COPIED my money into your bank account, meaning my money was still in my account, you never stole it. You can get on your high horse all you want about what is the morally correct way to consume media, be my guest. But Piracy =/= theft. Shoplifting is theft. downloading a song is piracy.

Here's an exercise for ya dumb ass, If I purchased a CD at a store, then went home and downloaded it illegally One million times, Did they lose one million sales? No, obviously not you goofball.

If you want to use the literal definition argument then that is an immediate loss for you. You are arguing that just because it doesn't physically exist it isn't stealing, while this is not true and totally illogical, you are stealing someone's hard work and labor no matter how you look at it. Just because technology has advanced to allow you do this on such a massive scale and nearly everyone participates it does not mean it is stealing. Even your own argument proves that is stealing, counterfeiting is also a form of theft by again the definition of the goddamn word.

If you want to teach other people, you should already know what the legal situation is. What you apparently don't know.

I'm well aware of what the legal situation is, the legal situation is an admitted failure of the industry to combat piracy.

On the other hand: In the 70s and 80s, when there were still music casettes, 80% of the people did not buy the music, but had friends recorded. And the musicians still lived like kings.

No they didn't I grew up during those times, while mixtapes were quite common the idea that 80% of people did not buy music is absolutely false. Copying from one tape to another would give you a serious loss in audio quality, people who listened to mix tapes would also buy the studio quality version once they knew they really liked the song or band. If it were anything like you think the musicians would never be living like kings would they ?

And then: if there were not so many people who stream the UFC, there were probably only 10% of the amount of fans. Have you ever thought about it, senior teacher? And you wouldn't even know about the existence of MMA ...

Yes I would, I likely started watching mma or nhb before you were born and back then the only way to watch any fights that weren't UFC was to rent them from blockbuster or order them through fighting magazines.

if buying isnt owning then piracy isnt stealing.
i have an ESPN+ account, why should i have to pay more for PPV when its an outdated format that almost no other market uses? why dont i get access to PPVs with my subscription? plus, the stream quality isnt that great either. a few times a night i will have to refresh the UFC stream because it freezes up. so what am i paying for here?

i have watched free streams that have better video quality and buffering than the paid service i use. if the service cannot meet the customers demands despite the customer giving them money for their service, then the customer is justified in finding a better alternative. thats business!

buyings is definitely owning, but that stance from companies would have never happened if nearly their entire customer base didn't believe that piracy isn't stealing

You’re a complete LOSER ….. just saying

Lol well I'm just gonna say that you would give your left nut to live my life, that is if you even have one to spare, I wouldn't be surprised if you are a uniballer.

 

[HHJ]

Fuck that shit.

50 bucks a month for only fight nights is ASS

 

[HHJ]

Just give me a fee that makes sense for the whole year

 

[Ladder Master]

ESPN+ is such a poor inconsistent service that I canceled months ago.

Fuck trying out a new service for even more money.

This situation is retarded and gay.

 

[cmw43]

I just use Fight Pass, you gotta wait a few days but all the PPVs end up there.

 

[HHJ]

I just use Fight Pass, you gotta wait a few days but all the PPVs end up there.

Yep.

Use ILLEGAL means to watch it live

Use ILLEGAL means to get the event to rewatch to your hearts desire.

Use FIGHT PASS all the other times.

way betta than 50 a month for fuckin Vettori vs Dolidze part 6

 

[jeff7b9]

India has to be the number one country for power slap. I've watched probably 4,000 Indian street fights and none of them were with closed fists.

India stick fights are wild.

 

[rjmbrd]

It makes more sense financially to split the rights up.

If Netflix agreed to 1B a year deal for exclusive, that is exactly what would happen. Its not happening because they were not offering.

Netflix has been signaling for a while that they want UFC and built a live streaming infrastructure.

Insiders don't report this, and publicly both Bela Bajaria (CCO) and Sarandos have repeatedly stated they are most interested in one-off, big live events - they are a lightning rod for water cooler and digital engagement. Less interested in traditional rights. Could be public negotiating, but I doubt it in this case.

I would wager its only for some fight nights. I dont see them overspending to get everything.

I would bet a substantial amount of money Netflix has not and will not bid 1B for everything. They can easily afford it, spending $18 billion on content in 2026. Its not a good ROI for Netflix right now and they have more data than any streamer. They also have zero interest in PPV as a model. Could be Netflix has some Fight Nights and perhaps docuseries, which they like on the platform.

For me, its more likely ESPN wants to maintain some rights for Fight Nights and related content e.g. DWCS in their $30/month DTC launch.

Prime is the one that needs the viewership bad and can definitely throw big money to take alot of UFC events away from ESPN.

Yes and Prime already has PPV infrastructure, its something they already do. Other than WBD reportedly throwing their hat in the ring recently, it is my best guess PPV model stays and goes to Prime. I'd also predict PPV buys will continue to fall through the floor. However Prime is better suited to subsidize this.

I am not sure on the ppv business but shifting away from ESPN seems like a bad idea after building a consistent PPV audience there.

By all reports, PPV numbers are through the floor.

As for ESPN plus, I think it will stick around as a budget option for certain UFC content at $12 a month. They know not everyone is gonna get the DTC $30 a month option.

Insiders doubt this... who knows of course.

 

[rjmbrd]

I just use Fight Pass, you gotta wait a few days but all the PPVs end up there.

I thought it was ~ 1 month before PPV events were updated to the Fight Pass library?

 

[Blastbeat]

buyings is definitely owning, but that stance from companies would have never happened if nearly their entire customer base didn't believe that piracy isn't stealing

tell that to folks who lost shows they bought on Disney+ and other streaming platforms. even though they purchased it, once the show left the platform they didnt get their money back. they bought the show, they should be able to download the show directly to their TV or a hard drive, not be dependent on a streaming service.

 

[WINGNUT]

yall dumb mother fuckers are actually still paying your hard earned money for UFC fights? lmfao, i havnt paid for a fight, or subscription in over 2 years
get your selfs a hacky firestick.
if you live in chicago and want one, message me i will hook you up. 15$ a month. has everythign and anything netflix,hbo,disney,amazon and everythign else has

 

[Black0ut]

Option 1 - put everything (I mean everything, PPVs, DWCS, TUF, Fight Night's, old fights) on 1 streaming service and I’ll gladly purchase it.

Option 2 - Don’t….. and I’ll continue buying 1 or 2 of the actually quality PPVs they put out a year and continue to stream EVERYTHING else.

 

[BjPenn2017]

Sounds like it is still going to be a convoluted system to purchase the fucking thing. Why can’t all events just be consolidated into one package? Why the fuck would anyone even bother with this shit when it’s quite literally easier and also more convenient to illegally stream?

Holding onto a PPV model in 2025 AND making it an annoying experience is fuckin diabolical, what a bunch of retards lol

 

[LordHellraiser]

Yes he did, learn to read.

I haven't paid for any form of TV or netflix ever, because I don't watch it. I have no problem paying for PPVs and NHL Center Ice, because I am not a thief. I also never downloaded music during the napster days because again I am not thief.

No not really, if I can't afford something but I think I deserve it anyway when it is not a necessity then yes that is entitlement.

Parrot ? Do you even know what that means, I am in the minority here, you are the parrot. I like to vote with my money and support the things I like, how the fuck is that being a shill ?

You ate 9 cans of ravioli. No wonder you pay for streaming services and claim some sort of moral high ground.

Weirdo gonna weirdo I guess

 

[CrimsonFan]

I didnt have a problem with espn+

Ive had it bundled with Disney and hulu for years for like $15 a month or something and my whole family uses it. I liked being able to rewind and pause the fights live.

Also i dont know how everyone streams all these cards. I would do that in high school when i couldnt afford it but it just gives me computer viruses, pop ups, always crashes and lags. To me its a huge pain in the ass and id rather just not watch it then deal with all that. Yea paying $80 sucks but atleast i can relax and watch the fights.

Maybe im just old. Whatever.

 

[xhaydenx]

Fight Pass has everything except the PPVs and is only 15 bux a month.

They try to up that to $50 and no one is paying for that.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

It's like these companies don't learn. Pirating went way down when streaming came around years ago and gave people a better more affordable and convenient service than cable and its requiring you to pay for 3 different subscription packages to get all you want. Now we're back to paying for Tons of expensive inconvenient services again which is just going to promote more pirating

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

$11 a month on UFC fight pass

 

[Lycandroid]

You ate 9 cans of ravioli. No wonder you pay for streaming services and claim some sort of moral high ground.

Weirdo gonna weirdo I guess

no I'm just a touring musician who wishes he didn't have to be a t shirt salesman to make money playing music

 

[GrantB13]

$50/mo to get all LIVE events or library included? $50/mo for live cards minus PPV is a worse deal than what you get currently with ESPN+.