International Active US Air Force member self-immolates outside Israel Embassy in Washington

Why is it that virtue signaling often seems to be accompanied by ad hominems directed at the other side?
I love when brainlets use formal debate terms to try and sound smart. Let me help you out buddy - an ad hom isn't "any time anyone says something mean to me that hurts my feelings". An ad hominem fallacy is a logical fallacy in which you make an argument that your opponents argument is wrong because of [insert insult].

Dropping "ad hom!!" In this context makes zero sense. I'm not debating anyone. My post wasn't even quoting anyone. I'm not replying to anyone's arguments.

For future reference, try and actually understand the words that you use so that you can avoid humiliating moments like this going forward. Using big words you don't understand for intellectual e points is big cringe.
 
I love when brainlets use formal debate terms to try and sound smart. Let me help you out buddy - an ad hom isn't "any time anyone says something mean to me that hurts my feelings". An ad hominem fallacy is a logical fallacy in which you make an argument that your opponents argument is wrong because of [insert insult].

Dropping "ad hom!!" In this context makes zero sense. I'm not debating anyone. My post wasn't even quoting anyone. I'm not replying to anyone's arguments.

For future reference, try and actually understand the words that you use so that you can avoid humiliating moments like this going forward. Using big words you don't understand for intellectual e points is big cringe.
An ad hominem is attacking the person rather than the argument they’re making, which is exactly what you did with your non-argument. You called your opponents, “reactionary cowards”.
 
That is a good quote by Patton but it actually has not been verified if he ever actually said that or not.
 
M8 his children are going to be absolutely fucked up. This will follow them throughout their life whether it's their own thoughts or other kids bullying them. This isn't ancient times, there are many better ways to make an impact on an issue you care about with self immolation being the last on the list. Dude was mentally ill and brainwashed by a cult church. Some of you weirdos are basically giving cult like behavior a pass.
This dude had kids?? OH please tell me that's not true.
 
I love the reactionary cowards acting like this isn't one of the most powerful forms of protest you can possibly engage in, and like similar acts in the past haven't become world renowned moments that echo through time.

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hundreds of monks have been lighting themselves on fire these past few decades in Tibet, thinking they're going to catch lightning in a bottle again. It's not the 1960's anymore. News and access to graphic material is more accessible via the internet. People are desensitized to this.

24-hour news cycles, internet, etc. People just move on to the next thing. Very few things have permanence in the public consciousness.

His death has already been overshadowed by the "Flour Massacre" in just a matter of days. His death was completely unnecessary and a waste.
 
This dude had kids?? OH please tell me that's not true.
my understanding is that it is not.

I think people made that part up to make him look like a selfish asshole. He left all his money to some charity in his suicide note. He mentioned his brother and friends, I didn't see any reference to kids in it.
 
my understanding is that it is not.

I think people made that part up to make him look like a selfish asshole. He left all his money to some charity in his suicide note. He mentioned his brother and friends, I didn't see any reference to kids in it.

This has been clarified many times over by people yet it's still being mentioned 35 pages later. Internet is doomed.
 
I am partially to blame since I skipped a few pages of this thread. Some comments started getting pretty nasty and I decided to forgo reading all of them.

Agreed. This thread has been a cluster fuck of entitled children.
 
I haven't posted since the first day so I really don't know much more about him than we knew in the very beginning.
You responded to me for like three days running. And I brought up the point of the family where you tried to (stupidly) argue that might be better off thanks to this deep, selfless act

Which I guess turns out wasn’t true that he had kids
 
You responded to me for like three days running. And I brought up the point of the family where you tried to (stupidly) argue that might be better off thanks to this deep, selfless act

Which I guess turns out wasn’t true that he had kids
I must be in your head all day long man and that because you tried to lie and pretend that it's a logical fallacy for a person to be inspired to change their mind by reanalyzing data due to this man's actions.

Please don't respond to me while being such a despicable liar.
 
I must be in your head all day long man and that because you tried to lie and pretend that it's a logical fallacy for a person to be inspired to change their mind by reanalyzing data due to this man's actions.

Please don't respond to me while being such a despicable liar.
Always hilarious watching the facade slip away
 
Always hilarious watching the facade slip away
There is no facade. You are a despicable liar and you know your point is false and fake, but you stuck with it because of pride in bad faith even after I gave many examples that were not logical fallacies.

Someone like that is not interested in honest dialogue or discussion but is so invested in their ego that they have to protect it at all costs even while making arguments for absurdity.

You showed yourself to be a bad faith poster and so I don't really want to have any interactions with you and I would ask you to please stop responding to my posts.
 
There is no facade. You are a despicable liar and you know your point is false and fake, but you stuck with it because of pride in bad faith even after I gave many examples that were not logical fallacies.

Someone like that is not interested in honest dialogue or discussion but is so invested in their ego that they have to protect it at all costs even while making arguments for absurdity.

You showed yourself to be a bad faith poster and so I don't really want to have any interactions with you and I would ask you to please stop responding to my posts.
He said, immediately after lying about not having come in here since the first day

Going to be hard to keep up the phony routine with everyone who followed this thread now
 
He said, immediately after lying about not having come in here since the first day
that's not what I meant. I have NOT kept up with any relevant data since the first day. haven't even looked into it further once.


go away man....
 
its easier for a Buddhist to see the value in this due to there being no true self that is getting sacrificed and due to the notion of reincarnation opening up the possibilities for future acts of good.

in a judeo Christian context its harder to reconcile as they see the self and this life as a gift from God and our only chance at living a life here in physical form.

two very different theologies with very different outlooks.
I dont think the theological angle fundamentally makes much difference.
At first glance it does seem that those who have the strong belief or to them knowledge of reincarnation, seem more willing to make these acts of self sacrifice.

 However, many people have also been willing to sacrifice their lives or put themselves at immense risk coming from a Judeo-Chistian background. If they believe the act is fundamentally good and justified (as I believe he felt the case is here with his intent) then they believe in a reward when resurrected eternally hereafter.

Even those who profess no particular faith are influenced usually by some version of Platonism which is implicit throughout much of Western society, so they are sacrificing themselves for an 'eternal principle'.
This can equally apply to atheists, for even if one does not believe in any form of continuity after death, if one feels ones current life is of no worth or is in support of harm or evil and against ones values, the thought of not being here may arise and in this case ending it while making a stand for principles one believes in.

The only ones who wouldn't even consider such an act are what is common nowadays, the hardcore self centred hedonist materialists who see no worth in life other than what benefits them and the temporary pleasures they can accumulate.
 
Some people in this thread would probably say David Koresh and his followers weren't mentally ill and just had a deeper conviction that we can't grasp. Buncha weirdos
 
Its extremely mentally weak, or just outright denial, to pretend that you can only understand people sacrificing their lives to kill others (military) but not sacrificing their lives out of guilt and to make a stand against people being wrongfully killed in your name by that military.
Military mindset is not choosing to die, he chose death rather than numerous other (better) ways to influence or educate people. Mentally ill/weak, brainwashed by a cult church.

It's amazing how you've spent this entire thread defending cult behavior. Do you give a pass to other cult behavior, like mass suicides, Waco, etc? Because we just don't understand their deep beliefs and whatever wacko pseudo intellectual bs you keep spewing? This thread is a good example of how adults can be brainwashed into commiting suicide even in 2024 with access to the Internet. Mental illness is one of the biggest problems in the world .
 
Thing is, are reddit socialists really socialists? I get the feeling a lot of them are just weak minded idiots trying to fit in with what's 'cool.'
Oh reddit is definitely full of some very "special" people . . .
 
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