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Ares Black said:
No, I like putting delusional fanboys in their place. It's a calling.
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But you haven't put anyone in their place LOL

You're just arguing endlessly but not showing me all the superior fighters Fedor fought in Russia on his way up or who would have been a valid opponent for Khabib back in 2011 in ProFC.

Or anything really... I just wasted 20 minutes talking about this with you. <{Heymansnicker}>

<KhabibBS>
 
Ares Black said:
I didn't say he was rich, I said he wasn't poor. There is a big difference.
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Then you're making generalized statements because the in between is also a HUGE difference.

You can "not be rich" and "not be poor" and still not be able to afford to send your kid around the world to face the best competition.

<JagsKiddingMe>
 
HNIC215 said:
But you haven't put anyone in their place LOL

You're just arguing endlessly but not showing me all the superior fighters Fedor fought in Russia on his way up or who would have been a valid opponent for Khabib back in 2011 in ProFC.

Or anything really... I just wasted 20 minutes talking about this with you. <{Heymansnicker}>

<KhabibBS>
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I have put @HHJ in his place. He should know better.

You, on the other hand, seem sincere.

FYI he's trolling. He knows Khabib's record is very padded. He just likes to pretend.
 
HNIC215 said:
Then you're making generalized statements because the in between is also a HUGE difference.

You can "not be rich" and "not be poor" and still not be able to afford to send your kid around the world to face the best competition.

<JagsKiddingMe>
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He didn't have to face the best competition. Fighters who had comparable experience would have been nice. Instead he kept fighting absolute cans.
 
The Siege said:
Lemur coming in to post while injured, any other Sherbro would have pulled out of posting if they were on a Yellow, but nope, the true warrior that is Lemur will find a way.
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Comin in with hurt toes to spite Conors weak ass sir lol
 
Ares Black said:
Biggest can crusher is Jason Reinhardt IMO.

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20-0 outside of the UFC, opponent's combined record 12-23
0-3 in the UFC, finished all three times, twice in the first minute or so.

Khabib might have had just as padded a record, but at least he backed it up in the UFC.
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Khabib had Ali Bagov, Shakhbulat and Eldar Eldarov. All great opponents who went on to impress in reputable MMA organizations. Sure Khabib had some questionable bookings but you're overstating it.
 
Ares Black said:
His father owned the gym they trained at and was the head coach of the national combat sambo team. What Khabib is saying is, for lack of a better word, bullshit.
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If I remember my Abdulmanap lore correctly, he sold his possessions which included farm animals to start a gym to keep young guys away from extremists, so while definitely not poor, they weren't that well off if he needed to sell valuable properties like animals in order to start the gym.
This isn't a story of an upper class dad with a McMansion buying the dealership across town, but also not "we were dirt poor" either. Anywhere else this would be considered a rags to riches story, the ol American dream if it happened in the US.

Maybe later on he became the head coach of the national sambo team, but early on, it was definitely a gamble to start the gym, although I concede there may be more information that I dont have about the situation.

Plus I think a lot of people are giving you too much stick lol early Khabib did fight a lot of low regional comp, again it might have been due to time and place, but they weren't the best. However, the impressive thing is he and his teammates proved it at the highest level.
 
HNIC215 said:
MMA is a very young sport comparatively speaking...

Saying "majority of fighters were nobodies" could literally apply to almost every major champion in every major combat sport.

Let's take boxing for example:


These champion boxers had long, decorated careers with many professional fights, and they each held world titles in one or more weight divisions.

You're not really making a point. No fighter can come onto the scene with a long list of well known names on their record.

You have to start from somewhere and when you're from a tiny mountain village, you're guaranteed to be fighting "no name" fighters.
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Comparing boxing and the historical understanding of that structure against MMA is literally apples and oranges. The guys in MMA you're referring to will retire with generally way less than 40 fights. The one's in boxing you've shown have 100+, with many of those fights being 30+ mins.

In Khabib's case, he has more scrubs/regional warmups cited as "professional" than he does fights in a real "professional" league. 13 fights in the pros. That's barely an anecdote really.

The boxers you note typically fought dozens and dozens of guys on the regionals before getting noticed and offered bigger shots. As these men were literally "prize fighters" and making nothing like you see today, many fought regularly just to feed their families.

When viewed objectively, that 91-1 is nowhere near as impressive as it might generally imply.
 
Natural Order said:
Comparing boxing and the historical understanding of that structure against MMA is literally apples and oranges. The guys in MMA you're referring to will retire with generally way less than 40 fights. The one's in boxing you've shown have 100+, with many of those fights being 30+ mins.

In Khabib's case, he has more scrubs/regional warmups cited as "professional" than he does fights in a real "professional" league. 13 fights in the pros. That's barely an anecdote really.

The boxers you note typically fought dozens and dozens of guys on the regionals before getting noticed and offered bigger shots. As these men were literally "prize fighters" and making nothing like you see today, many fought regularly just to feed their families.

When viewed objectively, that 91-1 is nowhere near as impressive as it might generally imply.
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1. Travis Fulton (Multiple MMA organizations)​

  • Record: 255 Wins, 54 Losses, 10 Draws
  • Total Fights: 320+
  • Known as "The Ironman," Travis Fulton holds the record for the most professional MMA fights, competing in various organizations over two decades.

2. Dan Severn (UFC Superfight Champion)​

  • Record: 101 Wins, 19 Losses, 7 Draws
  • Total Fights: 127
  • A former UFC champion and Hall of Famer, Severn is also known for his success in wrestling and MMA, having fought in multiple promotions.

3. Jeremy Horn (Multiple MMA organizations)​

  • Record: 91 Wins, 22 Losses, 5 Draws
  • Total Fights: 119+
  • A veteran of the UFC, Pride, and other promotions, Jeremy Horn is known for his grappling prowess and extensive MMA career.

4. Yuki Kondo (Pancrase Openweight Champion)​

  • Record: 60 Wins, 35 Losses, 9 Draws
  • Total Fights: 105+
  • A former Pancrase Openweight Champion, Kondo fought in a variety of organizations, including UFC, Pride, and Pancrase.

5. Renato Sobral (Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 37 Wins, 11 Losses
  • Total Fights: 48
  • "Babalu" was a Strikeforce champion and a UFC contender, known for his submission skills and multiple high-level appearances.

6. Anderson Silva (UFC Middleweight Champion)​

  • Record: 34 Wins, 11 Losses
  • Total Fights: 46
  • Considered one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, Silva held the UFC middleweight title for a record 2,457 days and fought numerous high-profile bouts.

7. Randy Couture (UFC Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 19 Wins, 11 Losses
  • Total Fights: 30
  • One of the most decorated fighters in UFC history, Couture won titles in both the heavyweight and light heavyweight divisions and fought well into his 40s.

8. Tito Ortiz (UFC Light Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 21 Wins, 12 Losses, 1 Draw
  • Total Fights: 34
  • A UFC Hall of Famer and former light heavyweight champion, Ortiz had a long and storied career in MMA, continuing to fight in Bellator after leaving the UFC.

9. Frank Mir (UFC Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 19 Wins, 13 Losses
  • Total Fights: 32
  • Mir is a former two-time UFC heavyweight champion, known for his submission skills and longevity in the sport.

10. Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone (UFC Contender, WEC Title Challenger)​

  • Record: 36 Wins, 17 Losses, 2 No Contests
  • Total Fights: 55
  • While Cerrone never held a UFC title, he fought the most bouts in UFC history, known for his willingness to fight anyone at any time, and for holding several UFC records.
You could say the same thing about any fighter on this list too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
HNIC215 said:

1. Travis Fulton (Multiple MMA organizations)​

  • Record: 255 Wins, 54 Losses, 10 Draws
  • Total Fights: 320+
  • Known as "The Ironman," Travis Fulton holds the record for the most professional MMA fights, competing in various organizations over two decades.

2. Dan Severn (UFC Superfight Champion)​

  • Record: 101 Wins, 19 Losses, 7 Draws
  • Total Fights: 127
  • A former UFC champion and Hall of Famer, Severn is also known for his success in wrestling and MMA, having fought in multiple promotions.

3. Jeremy Horn (Multiple MMA organizations)​

  • Record: 91 Wins, 22 Losses, 5 Draws
  • Total Fights: 119+
  • A veteran of the UFC, Pride, and other promotions, Jeremy Horn is known for his grappling prowess and extensive MMA career.

4. Yuki Kondo (Pancrase Openweight Champion)​

  • Record: 60 Wins, 35 Losses, 9 Draws
  • Total Fights: 105+
  • A former Pancrase Openweight Champion, Kondo fought in a variety of organizations, including UFC, Pride, and Pancrase.

5. Renato Sobral (Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 37 Wins, 11 Losses
  • Total Fights: 48
  • "Babalu" was a Strikeforce champion and a UFC contender, known for his submission skills and multiple high-level appearances.

6. Anderson Silva (UFC Middleweight Champion)​

  • Record: 34 Wins, 11 Losses
  • Total Fights: 46
  • Considered one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, Silva held the UFC middleweight title for a record 2,457 days and fought numerous high-profile bouts.

7. Randy Couture (UFC Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 19 Wins, 11 Losses
  • Total Fights: 30
  • One of the most decorated fighters in UFC history, Couture won titles in both the heavyweight and light heavyweight divisions and fought well into his 40s.

8. Tito Ortiz (UFC Light Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 21 Wins, 12 Losses, 1 Draw
  • Total Fights: 34
  • A UFC Hall of Famer and former light heavyweight champion, Ortiz had a long and storied career in MMA, continuing to fight in Bellator after leaving the UFC.

9. Frank Mir (UFC Heavyweight Champion)​

  • Record: 19 Wins, 13 Losses
  • Total Fights: 32
  • Mir is a former two-time UFC heavyweight champion, known for his submission skills and longevity in the sport.

10. Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone (UFC Contender, WEC Title Challenger)​

  • Record: 36 Wins, 17 Losses, 2 No Contests
  • Total Fights: 55
  • While Cerrone never held a UFC title, he fought the most bouts in UFC history, known for his willingness to fight anyone at any time, and for holding several UFC records.
You could say the same thing about any fighter on this list too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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You just posted a list with Travis Fulton at the top. You should probably log off and take a nap.
 
HHJ said:
@Ares Black is like one of those nerd infuencers that likes to go fuck with people on the street and then go WHOA BRO ITS JUST A JOKE as they get pummeled into bolivian
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No, I am simply speaking the truth to cult members. Deprogramming is hard, but worthwhile. With work you could actually be a decent poster again!
 
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