91-1

[Natural Order]

I think what he's saying is everyone (outside of outliers) fights shitty people on the way up.

For sure. What percentage of your career totals those "on the way up" fighters make up is the point of contention. When you reference 4 guys who are all 40-50%, it puts a bloated number like that in perspective imo. It's impressive as fuck, regardless. As mentioned, Abdulmanap created and refined a system that has dominated much of the lower weight classes in many MMA orgs. Problem is how long these guys will stay around, and how that translates to long term "greatness". Having 14 fights in the premier orgs just isn't going to cut it when predecessors (say Igor as an example) fought 30 scrubs then 30 in the bigs.

 

[kingmob6]

No matter your opinions or thoughts on any of these guys.

You gotta respect those numbers!

What a crazy achievement by Abdulmanap - raised a village of warriors.

Abdulmanap had like 26 world champions before Khabib became UFC champion, so he was excellent before this run.

 

[Ares Black]

I think what he's saying is everyone (outside of outliers) fights shitty people on the way up.

Except that's not really true, especially to the cartoonish extent that Khabib did. The first few fights of a career you can be forgiven for fighting winless fighters. At 11-0 or 14-0 it is shameful.

 

[HHJ]

No, I am simply speaking the truth to cult members. Deprogramming is hard, but worthwhile. With work you could actually be a decent poster again!

The truth is 91-1 tho

 

[Natural Order]

Why is Babalu Sobral in your list? Dude was in Rings 10 fights deep and fought Mikhail Ilyukin and then Tamura in the same night. rofl

 

[Ares Black]

The truth is 91-1 tho

With an asterisk

 

[Ares Black]

Comparing boxing and the historical understanding of that structure against MMA is literally apples and oranges. The guys in MMA you're referring to will retire with generally way less than 40 fights. The one's in boxing you've shown have 100+, with many of those fights being 30+ mins.

In Khabib's case, he has more scrubs/regional warmups cited as "professional" than he does fights in a real "professional" league. 13 fights in the pros. That's barely an anecdote really.

The boxers you note typically fought dozens and dozens of guys on the regionals before getting noticed and offered bigger shots. As these men were literally "prize fighters" and making nothing like you see today, many fought regularly just to feed their families.

When viewed objectively, that 91-1 is nowhere near as impressive as it might generally imply.

^^^^^^^^^This guy gets it

 

[Ares Black]

Where is he supposed to type that from, if not from a keyboard?

I usually post from my phone tbh

 

[HNIC215]

Where is he supposed to type that from, if not from a keyboard?

Figuratively means metaphorically, and literally describes something that actually happened. If you say that a guitar solo literally blew your head off, your head should not be attached to your body. They're really, actually there.

Hope that clears things up for you.

 

[HHJ]

With an asterisk

No those were all legit wins. Crying about it aint gonna help this time.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Young Abdulmanap looked so much like Khabib

+ The man could wear a hat like nobody's business!!

Looks Merab.

 

[HNIC215]

You just posted a list with Travis Fulton at the top. You should probably log off and take a nap.

Do you not understand how that list was made?

MMA champs with the most fights.

The point was to show most have padded fights or fought unkown fighters. Sheesh.

 

[HNIC215]

The fact you think this list of GSP compares in any way against the list of Khabib's opponents shows how ignorant you are on this subject.

I don't think that, you're putting thoughts into my head.

I just showed that to show that everyone fights unknown fighters early on.

 

[Ares Black]

No those were all legit wins. Crying about it aint gonna help this time.

No, they weren't, and you know it.

 

[HHJ]

No, they weren't, and you know it.

 

[Ares Black]

Yes, all of those wins were legitimate and impressive. That's not what we are talking about, but I do respect their legitimate accomplishments.

 

[Natural Order]

Do you not understand how that list was made?

MMA champs with the most fights.

The point was to show most have padded fights or fought unkown fighters. Sheesh.

But those guys are journeymen outliers, and the list had Babalu…list is junk and logic is nowhere to be found.

 

[markantony20]

I do not give a fuck. It''s the truth. Sorry if that interferes with your revisionist history hero worship.

Yes its obvious you do, you cant help but come in here and ask to be beaten upon mercilessly. Ares Masochist.

Mum! Dad! Stop fighting! lol

 

[Ares Black]

Mum! Dad! Stop fighting! lol

@HHJ is one of the greatest Sherbros of all time. I bear him no ill will.

 

[StonedLemur]

Except that's not really true, especially to the cartoonish extent that Khabib did. The first few fights of a career you can be forgiven for fighting winless fighters. At 11-0 or 14-0 it is shameful.

That's not what my post was about though, I was simply saying everyone fights shitty fighters in the beginning sir.