8K physical media

I think I may be falling behind as this is the only TV I own.

LG Electronics 32LN530B 32-Inch 720p 60Hz LED TV (2013 Model)

  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz (Native); Motion Clarity Index: 120 (Effective)
  • Backlight: LED (Direct LED)
  • Smart Functionality: No
  • Dimensions (W x H x D): TV without stand: 29.1'' x 17.2" x 3.1'', TV with stand: 29.1'' x 19.6'' x 8.2''
  • Inputs: 2 HDMI, 1 USB, 1 RF, 1 Component, 1 Composite, 1 Digital Audio Out (optical)
  • Accessories Included: TV Remote
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz (Native); Motion Clarity Index: 120 (Effective)
  • Backlight: LED (Direct LED)
  • Smart Functionality: No
  • Dimensions (W x H x D): TV without stand: 29.1'' x 17.2" x 3.1'', TV with stand: 29.1'' x 19.6'' x 8.2''
  • Inputs: 2 HDMI, 1 USB, 1 RF, 1 Component, 1 Composite, 1 Digital Audio Out (optical)
  • Accessories Included: TV Remote


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Satanical Eve said:
Arrow Films did a 4K remaster of RoboCop from the original film last year. Purchased the special edition version of it which features both the theatrical and director's cut in 4K. They did an amazing job granted there is some grain here and there with the director's cut but that can be forgiven.
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Also 4K TV"s have dropped in price by a lot so anyone buying 50+ TV should definitely look to get a 4K TV right now. No sense in buying a 1080p TV if you go that size. I currently have this Sony 65 inch 4K I got last year and its great.
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Worth noting that Arrow used the same 4K transfer as MGM did on the 2014 blu ray which you can get for less than $10 most places and has all the special features from the special edition DVD. Might beat spending close to $40 for the Arrow release (I love Arrow releases btw) also this is a 1080p disc from a 4K scan so playable on regular blu ray players.
 
Drain Bamage said:
Worth noting that Arrow used the same 4K transfer as MGM did on the 2014 blu ray which you can get for less than $10 most places and has all the special features from the special edition DVD. Might beat spending close to $40 for the Arrow release (I love Arrow releases btw) also this is a 1080p disc from a 4K scan so playable on regular blu ray players.
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I have that one as well. RoboCop is my all time favorite film and I'm what you could call a completionist when it comes to it. Plus it came with a bunch of extra goodies including this poster which I framed. If I wasn't a big a fan of the film I wouldn't have got this copy of it :)

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I even have a laserdisc copy even though I do not have a laserdisc player lol
 
Satanical Eve said:
I have that one as well. RoboCop is my all time favorite film and I'm what you could call a completionist when it comes to it. Plus it came with a bunch of extra goodies including this poster which I framed. If I wasn't a big a fan of the film I wouldn't have got this copy of it :)

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I even have a laserdisc copy even though I do not have a laserdisc player lol
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Lol nice. BTW that's a helluva bunion you got there lol.
 
Drain Bamage said:
Lol nice. BTW that's a helluva bunion you got there lol.
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LOL that it is. I've had foot problems since I was born. Had about 5 leg and foot surgeries including one that was supposed to fix that problem but it didn't. Bunion is gone for now since right after the photo was taken I chopped it off
 
JbModest said:
It's a long way off and a good example of diminishing returns after 4k. Very few 8k tvs out there also.
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TSO said:
Same thing was said about 1080p.

In my opinion resolution and how it's accepted depends entirely on PC gamers. Once there are GPU's that can maintain a playable FPS at that res, we will see it take off. That's why 1080p is still the most popular resolution.
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And it was right to be said about 1080p. It took nearly a decade for that to become the household standard.

Same is true for 8K. We're getting ahead of ourselves, here. Almost every TV on the shelf at places like Wal-Mart or Best Buy is 4K, these days, even the budget offerings, and yet just 32% of American households had a 4K TV as of the midpoint last year. Meanwhile, only half of those TVs were actually utilizing 4K. The rest were glorified, upscaled 1080p displays. Do the math. That means right now 4K is only utilized-- just some of the time-- in about 16% of homes. I bet even most of the media and TV watched in the households that did utilize 4K at times is still 1080p native.

Meanwhile, what he says is true about diminishing returns. First, the jump from 480p to 1080p was a more significant raw jump than it is from 1080p to 4K (~5x the pixels vs. 4x the pixels). More importantly, across that jump, the perceived difference in the increased resolution is even less. This truth is compounded jumping from 4K to 8K.

We'll get there, eventually, if they don't decide to just skip over 8K to a higher resolution, or different way of rendering that puts more emphasis on stuff like sub-pixels, but it's going to be about a decade.
 
Madmick said:
And it was right to be said about 1080p. It took nearly a decade for that to become the household standard.

Same is true for 8K. We're getting ahead of ourselves, here. Almost every TV on the shelf at places like Wal-Mart or Best Buy is 4K, these days, even the budget offerings, and yet just 32% of American households had a 4K TV as of the midpoint last year. Meanwhile, only half of those TVs were actually utilizing 4K. The rest were glorified, upscaled 1080p displays. Do the math. That means right now 4K is only utilized-- just some of the time-- in about 16% of homes. I bet even most of the media and TV watched in the households that did utilize 4K at times is still 1080p native.

Meanwhile, what he says is true about diminishing returns. First, the jump from 480p to 1080p was a more significant raw jump than it is from 1080p to 4K (~5x the pixels vs. 4x the pixels). More importantly, across that jump, the perceived difference in the increased resolution is even less. This truth is compounded jumping from 4K to 8K.

We'll get there, eventually, if they don't decide to just skip over 8K to a higher resolution, or different way of rendering that puts more emphasis on stuff like sub-pixels, but it's going to be about a decade.
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The funny part is all the 4k tv services are still 1080p at best. Most people don't even have good enough vision to see the difference and think anything with soap opera effect is 4k.
 
Madmick said:
And it was right to be said about 1080p. It took nearly a decade for that to become the household standard.

Same is true for 8K. We're getting ahead of ourselves, here. Almost every TV on the shelf at places like Wal-Mart or Best Buy is 4K, these days, even the budget offerings, and yet just 32% of American households had a 4K TV as of the midpoint last year. Meanwhile, only half of those TVs were actually utilizing 4K. The rest were glorified, upscaled 1080p displays. Do the math. That means right now 4K is only utilized-- just some of the time-- in about 16% of homes. I bet even most of the media and TV watched in the households that did utilize 4K at times is still 1080p native.

Meanwhile, what he says is true about diminishing returns. First, the jump from 480p to 1080p was a more significant raw jump than it is from 1080p to 4K (~5x the pixels vs. 4x the pixels). More importantly, across that jump, the perceived difference in the increased resolution is even less. This truth is compounded jumping from 4K to 8K.

We'll get there, eventually, if they don't decide to just skip over 8K to a higher resolution, or different way of rendering that puts more emphasis on stuff like sub-pixels, but it's going to be about a decade.
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What if they start stacking pixels on top of each other?

To create different kind of shading/depth fx? Could be kind of cool.

I think that will be the next step.
 
Drain Bamage said:
What if they start stacking pixels on top of each other?

To create different kind of shading/depth fx? Could be kind of cool.

I think that will be the next step.
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What would pixel stacking do?
 
TSO said:
The funny part is all the 4k tv services are still 1080p at best. Most people don't even have good enough vision to see the difference and think anything with soap opera effect is 4k.
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Xbox has this demo you can download free to turn toggle between 1080p and 4k. The difference is very clear and not subtle.

It's true most TV is in 4k, but Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon have been 4k for a long time.
 
rj144 said:
Xbox has this demo you can download free to turn toggle between 1080p and 4k. The difference is very clear and not subtle.

It's true most TV is in 4k, but Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon have been 4k for a long time.
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I do this on some of my games and have run triple monitors at 1080/1440/"4k" and just like with FPS most people (small sample size) that I've shown it to can't tell which is which.
 
TSO said:
I do this on some of my games and have run triple monitors at 1080/1440/"4k" and just like with FPS most people (small sample size) that I've shown it to can't tell which is which.
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How big are your monitors?
 
rj144 said:
Fair enough but it's quite a big difference on my 55" TV... it's not even a 65" TV.
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Yeah, just like on my projector it's quite obvious. But I only have one 4k projector and one wall made to project on so it's hard to do it there.
 
TSO said:
The funny part is all the 4k tv services are still 1080p at best. Most people don't even have good enough vision to see the difference and think anything with soap opera effect is 4k.
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Yes, my post you quoted just made reference to that.
rj144 said:
Xbox has this demo you can download free to turn toggle between 1080p and 4k. The difference is very clear and not subtle.

It's true most TV is in 4k, but Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon have been 4k for a long time.
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Yeah, but for YouTube, only the major channels that are technically well produced tend to upload in 4K, still, especially at 60fps.
 
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