8K physical media

Without reading the thread:
They'll probably just be on flash media with some kind of DRM/proprietary codec/unique form factor rather than a disc of some kind.
 
What would pixel stacking do?

Even more intricate colors and shadings and details. Imagine they are stacked but offset by half a pixel so that it creates a web of pixels. Then you could do things like stack orange and yellows and reds on top of each other, imagine how could that would make rendering the sun look. I'm talking real depth fx without the need for 3d or glasses or anything bruh real smoke and atmospherix haze bruh
 
Even more intricate colors and shadings and details. Imagine they are stacked but offset by half a pixel so that it creates a web of pixels. Then you could do things like stack orange and yellows and reds on top of each other, imagine how could that would make rendering the sun look. I'm talking real depth fx without the need for 3d or glasses or anything bruh real smoke and atmospherix haze bruh

Ok... yeah shading could be done, but not 3D.
 
Without reading the thread:
They'll probably just be on flash media with some kind of DRM/proprietary codec/unique form factor rather than a disc of some kind.

Similar to how theaters currently distribute media which Digital Cinema Packages which I think can theoretically be around 2.5 times the bitrate of UHD Bluray. Though I don't think there is a shot in hell large scale consumer movies will be distributed via flash as the margins would be too small no matter how cheap we think flash storage has gotten..... not to mention disc format media doesn't have the same data volatility that flash storage has. Lastly I'd venture most collectors of physical would rather have some kind of disc format for different nostalgic reasons.
 
This reminds me of CD Players "oversampling rates" when they first came out. I think we stopped at 16x. If 4k isn't the end, it will surely be 8k. Beyond that we'll probably be viewing our Media on something or in some way we can't even imagine right now.
I wanna say I have an old 32x somewhere.
 
I don’t see why anything better than 4K on a TV is going to be noticeably better at this point. They need to figure out how to make VR a lot better at this point, that’s where the next wild shit could come from.
 
I saw something on TV where this scientist guy said you could put a crazy amount of terabytes on this maybe square inch crystal thin slab looking like Dexter's blood drop souvenir where some laser etches data in it. He said it could last forever. Indestructible.
 
I saw something on TV where this scientist guy said you could put a crazy amount of terabytes on this maybe square inch crystal thin slab looking like Dexter's blood drop souvenir where some laser etches data in it. He said it could last forever. Indestructible.
I know for a fact I have seen something exactly like you are describing in a movie before.

cant for the life of me remember which movie but it was in space and the space station used large crystals sheets with handles on them that were full of data/information. like the brain of the AI system running the ship.

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I know for a fact I have seen something exactly like you are describing in a movie before.

cant for the life of me remember which movie but it was in space and the space station used large crystals sheets with handles on them that were full of data/information. like the brain of the AI system running the ship.

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Sounds like Man of Steel, the codex
 
Lol if you buy TVs from another brand

While I will never own another TV again (fuck moving those damned things) I can say that of all the brands, Vizio is probably the best bang for your buck right now. I owned a few of them over the years, and they were by far the best TVs I ever owned.
 
While I will never own another TV again (fuck moving those damned things) I can say that of all the brands, Vizio is probably the best bang for your buck right now. I owned a few of them over the years, and they were by far the best TVs I ever owned.

TVs today weigh like 15 pounds for like 65 inch TVs.
 
So, what's the general consensus here? Do we think that 4K UHD discs are the peak of what will be available on physical media? Or do we think that there will eventually be 8K Blu-ray players & media to go with it?
If the demand is there I could see a couple of hardware manufacturers producing 8K machines but I don't know if it's going to be there or if enough of the general public will be interested in buying 8K discs. The last I knew there wasn't even that much interest in upgrading to 4K players. This is surprising to me but then I don't know why it should be because I still know plenty of folks who haven't even upgraded to Blue-ray players yet.
 
I know a lot of TV networks didn't upgrade to 4k because the knew 8k was around the corner and have to upgrade twice. So, maybe people will buy 8k when 8k TV is broadcast. And, maybe that will create interest for 8k players.
 
I know a lot of TV networks didn't upgrade to 4k because the knew 8k was around the corner and have to upgrade twice. So, maybe people will buy 8k when 8k TV is broadcast. And, maybe that will create interest for 8k players.

Good points, bro.
All I know for sure is that I'm going to wait for at least two pr three more years before I worry about going 8K. I just upgraded to a 70" 4K television after buying a 65" 4K back in August. So, even though my wife is totally cool with how I spend our money I think if I mention buying another TV any sooner than a couple of years from now she'll have me committed.
Besides I want the whole 8K thing to balance out for a bit & the prices to come down before I look into them.
 
And it was right to be said about 1080p. It took nearly a decade for that to become the household standard.

Same is true for 8K. We're getting ahead of ourselves, here. Almost every TV on the shelf at places like Wal-Mart or Best Buy is 4K, these days, even the budget offerings, and yet just 32% of American households had a 4K TV as of the midpoint last year. Meanwhile, only half of those TVs were actually utilizing 4K. The rest were glorified, upscaled 1080p displays. Do the math. That means right now 4K is only utilized-- just some of the time-- in about 16% of homes. I bet even most of the media and TV watched in the households that did utilize 4K at times is still 1080p native.

Meanwhile, what he says is true about diminishing returns. First, the jump from 480p to 1080p was a more significant raw jump than it is from 1080p to 4K (~5x the pixels vs. 4x the pixels). More importantly, across that jump, the perceived difference in the increased resolution is even less. This truth is compounded jumping from 4K to 8K.

We'll get there, eventually, if they don't decide to just skip over 8K to a higher resolution, or different way of rendering that puts more emphasis on stuff like sub-pixels, but it's going to be about a decade.

DVD did have the obvious shift as well of not just resolution but entirely different and much more convenient media over VHS when made that transition much more rapid than the shift to HD/BR.

I suspect part of the reason 8K had appeared is that the shift to 4K media(not the TV's themselves which as mentioned sold well) wasn't as rapid as companies would have linked early on so there was a feeling that more needed to be offered. The result is we got both 8K but also UHD which combined 4K with HDR as alternative solutions that offered more and it looks like UHD is whats preffered by the industry and it being pushed. I suspect 8K will probably stay a minor market in the near future maybe a small amount of content offered from some broadcasters and online, if theres a more major use in the near future I suspect it might be in cinemas looking for an edge over home media.

With 35mm sources I'd guess 8K would not bring a great deal of extra detail, maybe a little but it would probably be mostly the case of having even more finely resolved grain which is IMHO a positive giving a more nature look but I'm not sure something masses of people would be rushing to buy over 4K/UHD. Its probably only stuff filmed on 65mm/Imax or on 6K/8K digital that would actually show much more detail than 4K.
 
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DVD did have the obvious shift as well of not just resolution but entirely different and much more convenient media over VHS when made that transition much more rapid than the shift to HD/BR.

I suspect part of the reason 8K had appeared is that the shift to 4K media(not the TV's themselves which as mentioned sold well) wasn't as rapid as companies would have linked early on so there was a feeling that more needed to be offered. The result is we got both 8K but also UHD which combined 4K with HDR as alternative solutions that offered more and it looks like UHD is whats preffered by the industry and it being pushed. I suspect 8K will probably stay a minor market in the near future maybe a small amount of content offered from some broadcasters and online, if theres a more major use in the near future I suspect it might be in cinemas looking for an edge over home media.

With 35mm sources I'd guess 8K would not bring a great deal of extra detail, maybe a little but it would probably be mostly the case of having even more finely resolved grain which is IMHO a positive giving a more nature look but I'm not sure something masses of people would be rushing to buy over 4K/UHD. Its probably only stuff filmed on 65mm/Imax or on 6K/8K digital that would actually show much more detail than 4K.

Have you made the jump to 4K UHD media yourself yet or are you strictly a streamer?
What about your television?
 
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