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Thankfully these knuckleheads in Chicago still don’t know how to properly use a firearm. 8/58 is a horrible %.
Crime 58 shot, 8 dead in Chicago over weekend. Trump and governor and mayor clash over threats to send in troops.
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Can you please provide the dataset for both
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Don't worry, it's just until the Schutzstaffel - sorry, ICE - have reached sufficient numbers and firepower to take over, "security" duties.
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I know man. 58 shootings in a single weekend but people still say that statistics show that crime is low.
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For Chicago this is pretty par for the course.
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Trump says he’s set to order federal intervention in Chicago and Baltimore, despite local opposition
BY WILL WEISSERT AND SOPHIA TAREEN
Updated 8:34 PM BRT, September 2, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he’s ready to order federal authorities to mobilize and combat crime in Chicago and Baltimore, despite staunch opposition from elected leaders and many residents in both cities.
Asked by reporters in the Oval Office about sending National Guard troops to the nation’s third-largest city, Trump said, “We’re going in,” but added, “I didn’t say when.”
“I have an obligation,” the president said. ”This isn’t a political thing.”
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, a potential 2028 Democratic presidential contender, scoffed at the notion of sending military troops and federal agents into Chicago, reiterating Tuesday that federal intervention was not required or wanted.
Local officials in Baltimore have joined Democratic Maryland Gov. Wes Moore in similarly opposing federal law enforcement intervention.
Trump has already sent National Guard troops into Los Angeles and Washington, where he’s also federalized the police force. He has said he plans similar moves in other Democrat-run cities even as a federal judge on Tuesday deemed the California deployment illegal.
Trump criticizes leaders in Chicago
The president praised Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser for working with federal forces, but repeated his criticism of Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, a Democrat. Trump said he’d love to have Pritzker call and say, “Send in the troops” — even though the two-term governor has repeatedly said he won’t be doing that.He said if Pritzker would “call me up, I would love to do it,” Trump said. “Now, we’re going to do it anyway. We have the right to do it. Because I have an obligation to protect this country and that includes Baltimore.”
He added, “Baltimore’s a very unsafe place”
Pritzker deemed Trump’s comments to call him for help as “unhinged.” The two have been locked in an escalating war of words for days as Trump called Chicago “the world’s most dangerous city” earlier Tuesday.
“No, I will not call the president asking him to send troops to Chicago,” Pritzker said Tuesday at a news conference with Johnson and other leaders. “I’ve made that clear already.”
Illinois notified of federal plan
The state received its first contact about federal intervention on Saturday when the head of the Illinois State Police got a call from Gregory Bovino, chief of the Border Patrol’s El Centro, California, sector, saying immigration agents would come to Chicago, according to Pritzker. The governor said no further details were offered.Pritzker urged the public not to let the presence of federal agents spark tensions in the city but asked residents to look out for neighbors, and to film interactions with federal agents and share them publicly.
“Authoritarians thrive on your silence,” he said. “Be loud for America.”
Chicago has been bracing for the expanded federal presence, with activists, pastors and schools prepared for the deluge of national attention.
Even without knowing exactly what is coming, the city’s organized activist network began circulating protest schedules, vowing to demonstrate within hours of troops or federal agents arriving.
The measures are familiar in a city that has long tried to counteract Trump’s bid to deport more people, including adding more staff at a hotline to report immigration arrests.
Dozens of pastors write a letter to Trump Tuesday saying the focus should instead be on underfunded schools and unemployment.
“To the faithful of Chicago, I say this: prepare your hearts for resistance,” the letter said.
Crime in Chicago
Johnson said violence in the city stems from guns on the streets that are trafficked to Illinois from neighboring states, including Republican-led Indiana.“Chicago will continue to have a violence problem as long as red states continue to have a gun problem,” Johnson said.
Echoing a trend in other major U.S. cities, Chicago’s violent crime has dropped significantly overall, though it remains a persistent issue in parts of the city.
Recently, the Trump administration has renewed interest in the city’s daily crime log, including using a spate of shootings during the Labor Day weekend as justification for increased military presence.
Chicago’s homicide rate is 21.7 per 100,000 residents in 2024, according to analysis of federal crime data by the Rochester Institute of Technology. It cites seven other major U.S. cities — St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Washington, D.C., Atlanta, Indianapolis and Richmond, Virginia — with higher rates.
Chicago reported 573 homicides in 2024, the most of any U.S. city that year. But violent crime dropped significantly in the first half of the year, representing the steepest decline in over a decade, according to city data. Shootings and homicides were down more than 30% in the first half of 2025 compared to the same time last year.
Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul has said the city and state will sue once the federal intervention begins.
Trump says intervention in Baltimore is necessary
Trump’s comments about Baltimore being included in his obligation to protect the country follows local officials in that city and Moore opposing federal law enforcement intervention.
Moore spokesman David Turner said, “While we try to decipher exactly what the President meant today, the Governor has been consistently clear: The use of the National Guard for municipal policing is theatrical and not sustainable.”
Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott listed some of the city’s recent accomplishments in curbing gun violence. Scott has repeatedly accused the president of using racist rhetoric and targeting Black-led cities, like Baltimore and Chicago.
“Here’s the reality in Baltimore,” Scott wrote on X, noting that Baltimore homicides have reached historic lows amid sustained declines including the lowest number of homicides on record for the month of August.
Trump said his efforts in Washington have ensured it “is now a safe zone. We have no crime.”
The White House announced separately Tuesday that more than 1,650 people have been arrested since the Trump administration first mobilized federal officials on Aug. 7.
“This was a beautiful thing that happened in Washington,” Trump said “because we showed that it could be done.”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-chicago-baltimore-law-enforcement-6d7c80258f17c3d679358467531f7e9d
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Trump is going about this wrong for sure. Yes sending in the guard would reduce crime a great deal but that means nothing and does nothing in the long run.
He should offer the guard if they want it. If not dont offer any federal help of any kind and leave to whatever happens on their own. If they change their mind once shit gets so bad make them come hat in hand and beg for help.
The only way the guard should be used in these cities is to protect federal agencies and facilities. The rest of the city is on them and let happen whatever happens.
He should offer the guard if they want it. If not dont offer any federal help of any kind and leave to whatever happens on their own. If they change their mind once shit gets so bad make them come hat in hand and beg for help.
The only way the guard should be used in these cities is to protect federal agencies and facilities. The rest of the city is on them and let happen whatever happens.
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This is a gross misrepresentation. You do realize the homicides rate for the state includes Chicago, right?
For instance, in 2023, the state had 823 homicides while Chicago had 617. So 206 without chicago
State population of 12.3 million in 2023, with Chicago being 2.69 million. Making the state population without Chicago 9.6 million.
So Chicago has a murder rate of about 22 per 100k in 2023, while the state is 2.15 per 100,000
Meaning Chicago has a murder rate about 10x higher.
Even with the highest estimated of homicides of 1150 in the state for 2023, meaning 533 not including Chicago, that is still 5.5 per 100k… meaning Chicago is still 4x higher
It is almost as if Chicago was included in the state wide homicide rate lol. Plus the year isn’t finished and data not available
It is almost as if these pro crime degenerates have an agenda
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I think it does a good job showing the citizens in these cities what a shit job their elected officials are doing keeping them safe. People are too accepting of the criminal elements in their cities, they've grown too used to it.
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Trump says he’s set to order federal intervention in Chicago and Baltimore, despite local opposition
BY WILL WEISSERT AND SOPHIA TAREEN
Updated 8:34 PM BRT, September 2, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he’s ready to order federal authorities to mobilize and combat crime in Chicago and Baltimore, despite staunch opposition from elected leaders and many residents in both cities.
Asked by reporters in the Oval Office about sending National Guard troops to the nation’s third-largest city, Trump said, “We’re going in,” but added, “I didn’t say when.”
“I have an obligation,” the president said. ”This isn’t a political thing.”
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, a potential 2028 Democratic presidential contender, scoffed at the notion of sending military troops and federal agents into Chicago, reiterating Tuesday that federal intervention was not required or wanted.
Local officials in Baltimore have joined Democratic Maryland Gov. Wes Moore in similarly opposing federal law enforcement intervention.
Trump has already sent National Guard troops into Los Angeles and Washington, where he’s also federalized the police force. He has said he plans similar moves in other Democrat-run cities even as a federal judge on Tuesday deemed the California deployment illegal.
Trump criticizes leaders in Chicago
The president praised Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser for working with federal forces, but repeated his criticism of Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, a Democrat. Trump said he’d love to have Pritzker call and say, “Send in the troops” — even though the two-term governor has repeatedly said he won’t be doing that.
He said if Pritzker would “call me up, I would love to do it,” Trump said. “Now, we’re going to do it anyway. We have the right to do it. Because I have an obligation to protect this country and that includes Baltimore.”
He added, “Baltimore’s a very unsafe place”
Pritzker deemed Trump’s comments to call him for help as “unhinged.” The two have been locked in an escalating war of words for days as Trump called Chicago “the world’s most dangerous city” earlier Tuesday.
“No, I will not call the president asking him to send troops to Chicago,” Pritzker said Tuesday at a news conference with Johnson and other leaders. “I’ve made that clear already.”
Illinois notified of federal plan
The state received its first contact about federal intervention on Saturday when the head of the Illinois State Police got a call from Gregory Bovino, chief of the Border Patrol’s El Centro, California, sector, saying immigration agents would come to Chicago, according to Pritzker. The governor said no further details were offered.
Pritzker urged the public not to let the presence of federal agents spark tensions in the city but asked residents to look out for neighbors, and to film interactions with federal agents and share them publicly.
“Authoritarians thrive on your silence,” he said. “Be loud for America.”
Chicago has been bracing for the expanded federal presence, with activists, pastors and schools prepared for the deluge of national attention.
Even without knowing exactly what is coming, the city’s organized activist network began circulating protest schedules, vowing to demonstrate within hours of troops or federal agents arriving.
The measures are familiar in a city that has long tried to counteract Trump’s bid to deport more people, including adding more staff at a hotline to report immigration arrests.
Dozens of pastors write a letter to Trump Tuesday saying the focus should instead be on underfunded schools and unemployment.
“To the faithful of Chicago, I say this: prepare your hearts for resistance,” the letter said.
Crime in Chicago
Johnson said violence in the city stems from guns on the streets that are trafficked to Illinois from neighboring states, including Republican-led Indiana.
“Chicago will continue to have a violence problem as long as red states continue to have a gun problem,” Johnson said.
Echoing a trend in other major U.S. cities, Chicago’s violent crime has dropped significantly overall, though it remains a persistent issue in parts of the city.
Recently, the Trump administration has renewed interest in the city’s daily crime log, including using a spate of shootings during the Labor Day weekend as justification for increased military presence.
Chicago’s homicide rate is 21.7 per 100,000 residents in 2024, according to analysis of federal crime data by the Rochester Institute of Technology. It cites seven other major U.S. cities — St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Washington, D.C., Atlanta, Indianapolis and Richmond, Virginia — with higher rates.
Chicago reported 573 homicides in 2024, the most of any U.S. city that year. But violent crime dropped significantly in the first half of the year, representing the steepest decline in over a decade, according to city data. Shootings and homicides were down more than 30% in the first half of 2025 compared to the same time last year.
Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul has said the city and state will sue once the federal intervention begins.
Trump says intervention in Baltimore is necessary
Trump’s comments about Baltimore being included in his obligation to protect the country follows local officials in that city and Moore opposing federal law enforcement intervention.
Moore spokesman David Turner said, “While we try to decipher exactly what the President meant today, the Governor has been consistently clear: The use of the National Guard for municipal policing is theatrical and not sustainable.”
Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott listed some of the city’s recent accomplishments in curbing gun violence. Scott has repeatedly accused the president of using racist rhetoric and targeting Black-led cities, like Baltimore and Chicago.
“Here’s the reality in Baltimore,” Scott wrote on X, noting that Baltimore homicides have reached historic lows amid sustained declines including the lowest number of homicides on record for the month of August.
Trump said his efforts in Washington have ensured it “is now a safe zone. We have no crime.”
The White House announced separately Tuesday that more than 1,650 people have been arrested since the Trump administration first mobilized federal officials on Aug. 7.
“This was a beautiful thing that happened in Washington,” Trump said “because we showed that it could be done.”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-chicago-baltimore-law-enforcement-6d7c80258f17c3d679358467531f7e9d
I’m looking forward to the deeply partisan coverage.
The lib side:
Person A was just enjoying a beer in the local park when he was set upon by Feds and arrested. “They treated me like some kind of criminal.”
The arrests have a disparate impact on communities of color.
And then the conservative side:
Black residents are extremely grateful for Fed intervention and the reduction in violent crime.
“God bless Trump for intervening. Johnson just wasn’t keeping the city safe from violence.”
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Image bragging about something that doesn't work.
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Yeah, he's Speaker of the House, an even higher position, in a much higher crime state. And he's not asking for deployments there. I wonder why?
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What works then Scott?
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Releasing the Epstein files.
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Too many powerful people involved Scott. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting.
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Trump says he’s set to order federal intervention in Chicago and Baltimore, despite local opposition
BY WILL WEISSERT AND SOPHIA TAREEN
Updated 8:34 PM BRT, September 2, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he’s ready to order federal authorities to mobilize and combat crime in Chicago and Baltimore, despite staunch opposition from elected leaders and many residents in both cities.
Asked by reporters in the Oval Office about sending National Guard troops to the nation’s third-largest city, Trump said, “We’re going in,” but added, “I didn’t say when.”
“I have an obligation,” the president said. ”This isn’t a political thing.”
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, a potential 2028 Democratic presidential contender, scoffed at the notion of sending military troops and federal agents into Chicago, reiterating Tuesday that federal intervention was not required or wanted.
Local officials in Baltimore have joined Democratic Maryland Gov. Wes Moore in similarly opposing federal law enforcement intervention.
Trump has already sent National Guard troops into Los Angeles and Washington, where he’s also federalized the police force. He has said he plans similar moves in other Democrat-run cities even as a federal judge on Tuesday deemed the California deployment illegal.
Trump criticizes leaders in Chicago
The president praised Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser for working with federal forces, but repeated his criticism of Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, a Democrat. Trump said he’d love to have Pritzker call and say, “Send in the troops” — even though the two-term governor has repeatedly said he won’t be doing that.
He said if Pritzker would “call me up, I would love to do it,” Trump said. “Now, we’re going to do it anyway. We have the right to do it. Because I have an obligation to protect this country and that includes Baltimore.”
He added, “Baltimore’s a very unsafe place”
Pritzker deemed Trump’s comments to call him for help as “unhinged.” The two have been locked in an escalating war of words for days as Trump called Chicago “the world’s most dangerous city” earlier Tuesday.
“No, I will not call the president asking him to send troops to Chicago,” Pritzker said Tuesday at a news conference with Johnson and other leaders. “I’ve made that clear already.”
Illinois notified of federal plan
The state received its first contact about federal intervention on Saturday when the head of the Illinois State Police got a call from Gregory Bovino, chief of the Border Patrol’s El Centro, California, sector, saying immigration agents would come to Chicago, according to Pritzker. The governor said no further details were offered.
Pritzker urged the public not to let the presence of federal agents spark tensions in the city but asked residents to look out for neighbors, and to film interactions with federal agents and share them publicly.
“Authoritarians thrive on your silence,” he said. “Be loud for America.”
Chicago has been bracing for the expanded federal presence, with activists, pastors and schools prepared for the deluge of national attention.
Even without knowing exactly what is coming, the city’s organized activist network began circulating protest schedules, vowing to demonstrate within hours of troops or federal agents arriving.
The measures are familiar in a city that has long tried to counteract Trump’s bid to deport more people, including adding more staff at a hotline to report immigration arrests.
Dozens of pastors write a letter to Trump Tuesday saying the focus should instead be on underfunded schools and unemployment.
“To the faithful of Chicago, I say this: prepare your hearts for resistance,” the letter said.
Crime in Chicago
Johnson said violence in the city stems from guns on the streets that are trafficked to Illinois from neighboring states, including Republican-led Indiana.
“Chicago will continue to have a violence problem as long as red states continue to have a gun problem,” Johnson said.
Echoing a trend in other major U.S. cities, Chicago’s violent crime has dropped significantly overall, though it remains a persistent issue in parts of the city.
Recently, the Trump administration has renewed interest in the city’s daily crime log, including using a spate of shootings during the Labor Day weekend as justification for increased military presence.
Chicago’s homicide rate is 21.7 per 100,000 residents in 2024, according to analysis of federal crime data by the Rochester Institute of Technology. It cites seven other major U.S. cities — St. Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Washington, D.C., Atlanta, Indianapolis and Richmond, Virginia — with higher rates.
Chicago reported 573 homicides in 2024, the most of any U.S. city that year. But violent crime dropped significantly in the first half of the year, representing the steepest decline in over a decade, according to city data. Shootings and homicides were down more than 30% in the first half of 2025 compared to the same time last year.
Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul has said the city and state will sue once the federal intervention begins.
Trump says intervention in Baltimore is necessary
Trump’s comments about Baltimore being included in his obligation to protect the country follows local officials in that city and Moore opposing federal law enforcement intervention.
Moore spokesman David Turner said, “While we try to decipher exactly what the President meant today, the Governor has been consistently clear: The use of the National Guard for municipal policing is theatrical and not sustainable.”
Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott listed some of the city’s recent accomplishments in curbing gun violence. Scott has repeatedly accused the president of using racist rhetoric and targeting Black-led cities, like Baltimore and Chicago.
“Here’s the reality in Baltimore,” Scott wrote on X, noting that Baltimore homicides have reached historic lows amid sustained declines including the lowest number of homicides on record for the month of August.
Trump said his efforts in Washington have ensured it “is now a safe zone. We have no crime.”
The White House announced separately Tuesday that more than 1,650 people have been arrested since the Trump administration first mobilized federal officials on Aug. 7.
“This was a beautiful thing that happened in Washington,” Trump said “because we showed that it could be done.”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-chicago-baltimore-law-enforcement-6d7c80258f17c3d679358467531f7e9d
Baltimore has lows because the police don't arrest anyone. I've seen drug deals done right in front of police as well as assaults and they just sit in their patrol car ignoring it. After the Baltimore riots police do not care anymore.
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Anyone who isn't stupid knows that the crime/violence in Chicago happens mostly in some very very nasty areas on the west and south side. The majority of the rest of the city is very safe, including most of downtown where a tourist would actually go when they visited. It is quite literally a world class city - Trump even has a tower downtown lol
I don't know how this would solve anything though - this is a way of life for the less fortunate in those communities. It seems like it could just escalate/make things worse.
I'm willing to listen to any serious considerations though - not political attacks just because you hate the fat democratic Governor.
I don't know how this would solve anything though - this is a way of life for the less fortunate in those communities. It seems like it could just escalate/make things worse.
I'm willing to listen to any serious considerations though - not political attacks just because you hate the fat democratic Governor.
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That’s because the last generation raised a bunch of stormtroopers..
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That moment when "small Government" dingbat who said masks were tyranny suddenly applaud Big Brother because they feel the Police State will be targeted towards their "enemies."
I prefer a different approach:
I prefer a different approach:
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It is a career of learning and training to do it properly
