Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Amerikuracana, Jun 3, 2014.
^^^Probably gets winded walking up a flight of stairs:icon_chee
I agree. I'm OK with keeping the early prelims at 3 five minute rounds. But anything on the main card should be 5 rounds. Less fights. Make them all meaningful fights. 5 rounds. Or, at least, I want longer rounds. 5 minute rounds kills grappling strategies. Imagine you take 3 minutes to get the guy down, now you have 2 minutes to tap them. It sucks. Plus, it leaves a lot of fights feeling anti climactic. Like you know the fight could've turned around if there were one more round, you know?
That would be a great improvement.
5 5min rounds just make fighters pull back to conserve energy...
grappling is about 100x more exhausting then straight boxing or standup
Agreed, I hate weight cutting. People don't even understand how much better a shot you can take when you're not dehydrated.
Meh, fighting larger men is apart of the game. Plus there would still be fighters who could make the cut on the night of the fight. I would do it the same way, but if you come in over weight at the night of the fight you lose 80% of your purse. Easy!
Just stop, all sport is physically taxing. What, you want to make this like K-1? Annoyingly short? This isn't a tournament pal.
Do you understand the difference between sprinting and long distance running? Yes, it is a matter of poor cardio and poor choices. You're telling me the best conditioned athletes in the world can't sprint for 15 minutes straight? YOU DON'T SAY SHERLOCK! Go train or something, you're clueless. Grappling IS NOT FAR MORE EXHAUSTING THAN BOXING, pfff, get out of here already pal. Put any wrestler in a boxing ring and watch him die in 3 minutes. The human body adapts to the work we give it, this is called understanding biology and the human anatomy. Even kickboxing is more tiring than boxing? You're clueless. Go take a few classes is physiology please...and in the meantime INTO THE CORNER WITH YOU!
So you're talking about rounds being invented in the 1800s, mind telling me when boxing was invented? Mind telling me how many rounds of rest the first fighters of all time got? Why are you so clueless? Rounds are used for betting, you think they introduced rounds so fighters could rest? PFFF! Yeah right! The CORRELATION is apparent huh? You are putting more emphasis on the wrestling and less emphasis on the weight cutting. Wrestling isn't exhausting when you're in shape, wrestling is exhausting when your body is recovering from being dehydrated and depleted. Now you're going on about inferiority complexes? Seriously, go get an education already, you are clueless! "The speed of pro boxers...makes it look more like eminent fireworks." Again, how long have you trained and what do you train in?
It is tougher because as a fighter you might be anticipating the rest period, pushing at the end of the round for points, etc. However in the 10 minute round that rest period is a long way off and you should just buckle down and focus on the fight instead of focusing on the time. Which is why rounds in my opinion should go bye bye!
10 minute 1st round is great if u wanna see every HW fighter (save Cain) gas in the first round of every fight.
Also, comparing MMA to boxing in this regard is asinine. MMA, with wrestling, clinching, etc. is far more physically demanding than boxing. T
I also don't agree with this, I don't think fighters should be allowed coaching at all. Nobody gets to yell instruction, nobody gets to coach you, nothing. There are no rounds, and there is no coaching.
Revealing scorecards to the fighters after every round would do away with stalling if you're in the lead because the other fighter would be desperate with no delusions that the fight is in his favor.
Oh yeah, than what?
Here is another clueless individual who is probably overweight and can't do one push-up.
Fighting is brutal, stop crying.
Yes, you easily can, except you don't have the knowledge to do so. Go take a Biology, Anatomy, and Physiology course.
Lol, everyone is saying it is too tiring, now this guy is saying it isn't tiring enough.
Just stop. Should I use your life as an example of what can be accomplished? No.
Exactly, 3 minute rounds would be a joke, especially with a grappling element. How are you supposed to work? No stand-ups, no rounds, no coaching, 15 or 20 minutes I don't care, fence grabbing allowed.
Now you want a 7x5 minute fight? Lol, seriously dude...10 minute rounds aren't fan friendly? FAN FRIENDLY? GO SIT IN THE CORNER!
Fights got sloppy? Guys got worn out? How many Pride fights have you actually seen?
Just stop you have no idea what you're talking about...at all.
Good point, I have thought so for awhile as well.
You're just another sheep repeating what other people say so they can pat you on the back. You have no formal education in Biology, Physiology, or Anatomy. The human body ADAPTS to the type of work you give it. So no, a wrestler being put in a boxing ring will die, a wrestler put in a swimming pool will die, a wrestler forced to run long distance will die. That isn't what a wrestler does on a day to day basis, he might cross-train but his main sport is wrestling, if you want to have wrestling cardio you wrestle. So no, it isn't more physically demanding, not at all. The body has simply been conditioned for two different activities.
Why are so many Sherdoggers trying to reinvent the wheel as of late???
Is it because they're over their I Love MMA fad???
Some fights have more action in one round than other fights do in five!
Do what I do...throw some chicken wings in the oven (375 degrees for 28-33 minutes, depending on your oven), pop in a CPK BBQ Chicken personal pizza, grab a cold brewsky and enjoy the dang fights! There's so many frickin' events and orgs nowadays, that something's bound to rekindle your love for this awesome sport!
10 minute rounds? Not in this day and age. Watch PPV buys plummet even more.
Who the fuck aside from the middle aged 40+ Pride fan boy club wants 10 minute first rounds?
Also, this thread reeks of the average, overweight American with no formal training in sports at all.
Remember to apply all that to WMMA also. Because we all want to see 10-15 minutes MORE of them putting on white belt clinics.
like Konster said i would love the first round to be a ten minute round Pride style. the problem i see in adding more rounds would be in the heavyweight division primary. Some heavy's gas after one round.
Simmer down, Jack LaLanne!
Valid points, though!
The sport is awesome, and I love watching all fights even if they are boring. However I think all things can improve, and that is all we're doing here trying to figure out a way to improve upon the model we already have.
I'm not 40, I'm not a Pride fanboy and I want to get rid of rounds and have only one 15 minute fight, and championship would be one 25 minute fight. No stand-ups, 12 to 6 elbow is allowed, fence grabbing is allowed. Average overweight american with no formal training? 10 years BJJ, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Boxing, Kickboxing, you know the Martial Arts trend. So I think you're clueless and you need to go sit in the corner...
I love WMMA, and the best part is if the fight ever stalls on the ground I really enjoy looking at the women's bodies. White belt clinic? I have a few women I would like you to step into the ring with...
Ugh...the logic fail by people amazes me. So heavy guys get tired more easily huh? I guess we should always consider the heavyweights when making rules because we don't want them to get too tired right? INTO THE CORNER WITH YOU!
"The sport is awesome...I love watching all fights even if they are boring."
See how that might conflict with your desire/quest to improve the sport?
The sport was once a bare-knuckle, ball-punching circus show!
Minor adjustments can be made here and there like in mainstream sports, but you can't go around changing the number of quarters, periods, and/or innings.
Yes, boxing went from 15 to 12, but it simply doesn't translate to MMA.
and there would be no gloves or rules!
i'm not sure if your serious, but ya i think its obvious heavy's gas quicker then everyone else.?? and ya the UFC should consider how longer rounds would effect every division, that seems logical to me. whats the logic fail ?
Last time I heard sport was a business. Without the business there is no athletes & the main competitors are bums.
A 25 minute fight is pointless. The break is there is improve lactate levels. 25minutes irrespective of the athlete will end up one big sloppy mess, much akin to a 36 minute straight boxing bout.
7x5 is more than reasonable. I've spent 15 years boxing and 10 in MMA & Boxing has a higher movement output. MMA fighters should be able to last 7 rounds & if they can't they're inferior athletes.
... because every account here is a prepubescent.
Relating this to boxing, I have to watch Floyds fights on 30 minute delay to fast forward his point fest. More time would be more tap n run.