International 248 people, 66 children Palestinian dead after "Apartheid state" Israel launches airstrikes in Gaza

[helltoupee]

People don’t appreciate nor agree with being evicted. Shock horror.
Let me guess, people also aren’t fans of being arrested nor punished either? Fucking crazy world this..

In order to evict someone, that infers you have claim of ownership to the property in question. What is so hard to understand about that?

But I noticed you skipped over my analogy given the only consistent answer you could provide would prove you either a hypocrite, a liar, or a complete imbecile.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

I misunderstood the argument....read human targets as human shields. My fault.

Human targets is a strange term. Most targets in conflicts are human.

Even the israelis target humans.....even unarmed ones.

Most targets aren’t human ,most targets are factories or utilities or other weapons, most of Israel’s targets for example are the rockets being indiscriminately fired over into Israel from Gaza. The iron dome intercepts 80-90% of the ones that would have landed in civilian territories killing innocent Israeli people.
But fair play for owning that about your misunderstanding though, respect for that. Many would have simply logged off.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

In order to evict someone, that infers you have claim of ownership to the property in question. What is so hard to understand about that?

But I noticed you skipped over my analogy given the only consistent answer you could provide would prove you either a hypocrite, a liar, or a complete imbecile.

Virtually all evictions are opposed. What’s so hard to get? Just because it is Palestine? What are you some kind of bleeding heart? Have you with your own eyes seen the decrees or the eviction notices? Has your lawyer looked into this and confirmed the evictions are unsafe?

No? Thought not. So fuck off.

 

[helltoupee]

Why are all you Hamas supporters incapable of using logic or forming legitimate arguments? You just make foolish comparisons and think you've made a point, meanwhile anyone with a 3-digit IQ is just shaking their head at your word salad bullshit.

Why don't you explicitly state why my analogy was wrong, instead of giving me some weak commentary full of idiotic opinion?

If my comparisons are foolish, educate me. I have an open mind. It should be rather easy given your inferred 3 digit IQ.

 

[helltoupee]

Virtually all evictions are opposed. What’s so hard to get? Just because it is Palestine? What are you some kind of bleeding heart? Have you with your own eyes seen the decrees or the eviction notices? Has your lawyer looked into this and confirmed the evictions are unsafe?

No? Thought not. So fuck off.

Do you even understand what you are typing?

What you are basically saying is that nobody should be upset, because nobody likes to be evicted and they are 'perfectly safe'.

So you'd have no problem with me evicting you from your house if I declare it's mine now? There's a reason you refuse to address this. Instead, you cling to some idiotic tangent about bleeding hearts and lawyers.



FIGHTING TALK: Hey guys, did you hear? Some innocent old woman was raped last night!

everyone else: Oh my god that's terrible. We shouldn't be supporting whoever did this!

FIGHTING TALK: Like hell! Fuck off with that shit! What are you guys some bleeding hearts or some shit? Nobody likes being raped, that comes with the territory, nothing to see here.

Your argument is so incredibly asinine, I'm wondering what it was that caused you to drift out of the WWE and video game forums to make an attempt at political discourse, because you suck at this.

 

[DoctorDeelon]

I misunderstood the argument....read human targets as human shields. My fault.

Human targets is a strange term. Most targets in conflicts are human.

Even the israelis target humans.....even unarmed ones.

That was a typo by me, I meant human shields because that's what the Palestinians do. The "men" hide behind women, children and the disabled. They put them in the middle because they want them to be killed, because it just pushes their propaganda that the Israeli's are the uncivilized ones.

All over the world you can see Palestinian supporters beating up Jews on the streets. These are violent, uncivilized people. Hamas, who headquarter in hospitals and hide behind women and children to protect themselves. Absolute cowards.

Not that I think the Israeli's are without sin. They have also done some repugnant shit. But they will always be above scumbag coward Hamas, who should be wiped off the map.

Long live the great state of Israel.

 

[DoctorDeelon]

Why don't you explicitly state why my analogy was wrong, instead of giving me some weak commentary full of idiotic opinion?

If my comparisons are foolish, educate me. I have an open mind. It should be rather easy given your inferred 3 digit IQ.

You're comparing war/turf battles in the middle east to home ownership in North America. If you need someone to explain to you why that is absolutely retarded, you're a lost case my friend.

 

[TheWave111]

That was a typo by me, I meant human shields because that's what the Palestinians do. The "men" hide behind women, children and the disabled. They put them in the middle because they want them to be killed, because it just pushes their propaganda that the Israeli's are the uncivilized ones.

All over the world you can see Palestinian supporters beating up Jews on the streets. These are violent, uncivilized people. Hamas, who headquarter in hospitals and hide behind women and children to protect themselves. Absolute cowards.

Not that I think the Israeli's are without sin. They have also done some repugnant shit. But they will always be above scumbag coward Hamas, who should be wiped off the map.

Long live the great state of Israel.

Can you show me evidence of human shields?
I can show you the lies of human shields.
Where is your evidence?

 

[Oceanmachine]

Do you even understand what you are typing?

What you are basically saying is that nobody should be upset, because nobody likes to be evicted and they are 'perfectly safe'.

So you'd have no problem with me evicting you from your house if I declare it's mine now? There's a reason you refuse to address this. Instead, you cling to some idiotic tangent about bleeding hearts and lawyers.



FIGHTING TALK: Hey guys, did you hear? Some innocent old woman was raped last night!

everyone else: Oh my god that's terrible. We shouldn't be supporting whoever did this!

FIGHTING TALK: Like hell! Fuck off with that shit! What are you guys some bleeding hearts or some shit? Nobody likes being raped, that comes with the territory, nothing to see here.

Your argument is so incredibly asinine, I'm wondering what it was that caused you to drift out of the WWE and video game forums to make an attempt at political discourse, because you suck at this.

The eviction is legal. The only hypocrisy is Israel doesnt allow those expelled to claim homes taken from them before the war. This eviction case are properties owned by Jews prior to Jews veing kicked from them during war when Jordan controlled the West Bank and East Jerusalem and apparently involves not paying rent

 

[TheWave111]

Taba Map offer after the Camp David Summit

Olmert's offer:

Israel would have withdrawn completely from the small Gaza Strip. But it would annex strategically important and highly valuable sections of the West Bank–while retaining “security control” over other parts–that would have made it impossible for the Palestinians to travel or trade freely within their own state without the permission of the Israeli government.
The annexations and security arrangements would divide the West Bank into three disconnected cantons. In exchange for taking fertile West Bank lands that happen to contain most of the region’s scarce water aquifers, Israel offered to give up a piece of its own territory in the Negev Desert–about one-tenth the size of the land it would annex–including a former toxic waste dump.
Palestinians living in their new “independent state” would be forced to cross Israeli territory every time they traveled or shipped goods from one section of the West Bank to another, and Israel could close those routes at will. Israel would also retain a network of so-called “bypass roads” that would crisscross the Palestinian state while remaining sovereign Israeli territory, further dividing the West Bank.
Israel was also to have kept “security control” for an indefinite period of time over the Jordan Valley, the strip of territory that forms the border between the West Bank and neighboring Jordan. Palestine would not have free access to its own international borders with Jordan and Egypt–putting Palestinian trade, and therefore its economy, at the mercy of the Israeli military.
Had Arafat agreed to these arrangements, the Palestinians would have permanently locked in place many of the worst aspects of the very occupation they were trying to bring to an end.

 

[TheWave111]

The eviction is legal. The only hypocrisy is Israel doesnt allow those expelled to claim homes taken from them before the war. This eviction case are properties owned by Jews prior to Jews veing kicked from them during war when Jordan controlled the West Bank and East Jerusalem and apparently involves not paying rent

The eviction is illegal under International Law. Israel has no legal rights in East Jerusalem.
That's like China making court decisions for homes in the US.

 

[Bubzeh]

Keep bending. Keeeeeep bending boys.

 

[and 68 others like this]

That was a typo by me, I meant human shields because that's what the Palestinians do. The "men" hide behind women, children and the disabled. They put them in the middle because they want them to be killed, because it just pushes their propaganda that the Israeli's are the uncivilized ones.

All over the world you can see Palestinian supporters beating up Jews on the streets. These are violent, uncivilized people. Hamas, who headquarter in hospitals and hide behind women and children to protect themselves. Absolute cowards.

Not that I think the Israeli's are without sin. They have also done some repugnant shit. But they will always be above scumbag coward Hamas, who should be wiped off the map.

Long live the great state of Israel.

There are no documented events of Hamas using Palestinians as human shield. If you have independent sources, please share.

On the other hand, the IDF using Palestinians as human shields IN THE LITERAL FORM (physically holding on to civilians in dangerous situations or battles) is actually a well documented and a known IDF technique when moving into Palestinian areas to terrorize its people. There are countless of reports, videos and picture evidences to proof this.

Also in 2005, the Israeli high court found that Israeli soldiers had used Palestinian civilians as human shields more then 1,200 times in the past 5 years only. The UN also concluded this

Gaza is one of the most densely populated places in the world. Its over 1, 300 square kilometers and home to more then 2 million people. I doubt you could find many places to fire a rocket where you weren't within range of a civilian installation.

But even IF what you said would actually have been true, lets say it is...for the sake of argument. How does that justify the collective killing? It makes ZERO sense. Its like blowing up an entire bank filled with hostages just to get 2 of the bad guys.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/israel-gaza-idf-used-palestinians-as-human-shields-1200-occasions-in-last-five-years-say-israeli-defence-officials-30483468.html#:~:text=World-,Israel%2DGaza%3A%20IDF%20used%20Palestinians%20as%20human%20shields%201%2C200%20occasions,years%2C%20say%20Israeli%20defence%20officials&text=The%20Israeli%20supreme%20court,illegal%20and%20violates%20international%20law.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/busting-the-myth-of-palestinian-human-shields-in-gaza-46645

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/israel

 

[Halifax]

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Your account still seems to be shadowmuted to a lot of people.

I did get a good laugh at the name "and 68 other like this" tho<Lmaoo>

 

[TheWave111]

Your account still seems to be shadowmuted to a lot of people.

I did get a good laugh at the name "and 68 other like this" tho<Lmaoo>

Don't be a troll and spam the comments.
I know it hurts we live in the social media time right now. The crimes of Israel can be seen by everyone.
Keep supporting state terrorism and keep your eyes shut.

 

[DoctorDeelon]

There are no documented events of Hamas using Palestinians as human shield. If you have independent sources, please share.

How about Al Jazeera and the United Nations? Do you trust them, or are they too pro Israel for your tastes? lol

http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...ns-killed-44-palestinians-at-un-shelters.html

They reported on a UN report that detailed how the Israeli's killed 44 Palestinians. Of course they put the death toll front and centre, but if you scroll down just a bit you'll see that the United Nations confirmed what Israeli's have been saying: Hamas stored mortars and other weapons in at least three UN schools and fired rockets at Israel from two of them. What would possess someone to use a school as a launch site for rockets? UN facilities have long been popular launch sites for Hamas and there is a long history of the UN turning a blind eye to this.

Israel targets Hamas launch sites, which they just happen to set up in populated areas so their own people die and they can get good publicity, and Israel gives advanced notice of their attacks. Hamas hide behind Palestinian civilians and launch attacks indiscriminately on Israeli civilians.

Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization (or the military wing of a terrorist organization) by several countries. They are garbage.

 

[mmafan2000]

I misunderstood the argument....read human targets as human shields. My fault.

Human targets is a strange term. Most targets in conflicts are human.

Even the israelis target humans.....even unarmed ones.

The world's eyes are on Israel like it was with South African apartheid. The US can block resolutions against Israeli crimes for only so much longer. Justice will come soon.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Israel would have withdrawn completely from the small Gaza Strip. But it would annex strategically important and highly valuable sections of the West Bank–while retaining “security control” over other parts–that would have made it impossible for the Palestinians to travel or trade freely within their own state without the permission of the Israeli government.
The annexations and security arrangements would divide the West Bank into three disconnected cantons. In exchange for taking fertile West Bank lands that happen to contain most of the region’s scarce water aquifers, Israel offered to give up a piece of its own territory in the Negev Desert–about one-tenth the size of the land it would annex–including a former toxic waste dump.
Palestinians living in their new “independent state” would be forced to cross Israeli territory every time they traveled or shipped goods from one section of the West Bank to another, and Israel could close those routes at will. Israel would also retain a network of so-called “bypass roads” that would crisscross the Palestinian state while remaining sovereign Israeli territory, further dividing the West Bank.
Israel was also to have kept “security control” for an indefinite period of time over the Jordan Valley, the strip of territory that forms the border between the West Bank and neighboring Jordan. Palestine would not have free access to its own international borders with Jordan and Egypt–putting Palestinian trade, and therefore its economy, at the mercy of the Israeli military.
Had Arafat agreed to these arrangements, the Palestinians would have permanently locked in place many of the worst aspects of the very occupation they were trying to bring to an end.

Is their situation now better than what it would have been if they took those offers? They're getting squeezed further with more and more settlements and East Jerusalem annexations happening daily. The next offer if there is one will be even more restrictive. They really need to accept that they've lost, no one is coming to their aid and accept what they can get.

 

[Spiritual Sight]

How about Al Jazeera and the United Nations? Do you trust them, or are they too pro Israel for your tastes? lol

http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...ns-killed-44-palestinians-at-un-shelters.html

They reported on a UN report that detailed how the Israeli's killed 44 Palestinians. Of course they put the death toll front and centre, but if you scroll down just a bit you'll see that the United Nations confirmed what Israeli's have been saying: Hamas stored mortars and other weapons in at least three UN schools and fired rockets at Israel from two of them. What would possess someone to use a school as a launch site for rockets? UN facilities have long been popular launch sites for Hamas and there is a long history of the UN turning a blind eye to this.

Israel targets Hamas launch sites, which they just happen to set up in populated areas so their own people die and they can get good publicity, and Israel gives advanced notice of their attacks. Hamas hide behind Palestinian civilians and launch attacks indiscriminately on Israeli civilians.

Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization (or the military wing of a terrorist organization) by several countries. They are garbage.

It's okay, bro. We all unknowingly embarrass ourselves on the road of learning how to think orderly.

 

[TheWave111]

Is their situation now better than what it would have been if they took those offers? They're getting squeezed further with more and more settlements and East Jerusalem annexations happening daily. The next offer if there is one will be even more restrictive. They really need to accept that they've lost, no one is coming to their aid and accept what they can get.

If they would have accepted that. The same thing would have happened as the situation now. They would have invaded Palestine for 'security' excuses and occupy the land. The difference with now is that they didn't sign for their slavery.
Why on earth would Israel respect international agreements if they don't do it now.
That 'deal' would have been their death.
The situation now is exactly the same. But at least they didn't sign for their slavery.