205 is in shambles. Only One Man can save the division...

[svmr_db]

nc saved him from losing to Corey but now he's the LHW savior, lol

Prozachka has had moments of adversity, so has Hill, Ankalaev, Blachowicz and pretty much every LHW anyone would name as the best in the world. Don't think this gif says too much.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Yes!! bring him into UFC. I can easily see him being champ, the LHW belt just gets passed around like confetti since Jones left the scene, Glover 44 champ, Jan 40 champ, Jamahal Hill who is the weakest UFC LHW champ in a long time

 

[gspieler]

nc saved him from losing to Corey but now he's the LHW savior, lol

Prozachka has had moments of adversity, so has Hill, Ankalaev, Blachowicz and pretty much every LHW anyone would name as the best in the world. Don't think this gif says too much.

Jones has looked mediocre in several fights, and he's the LHW GOAT. And all due respect to his competitors, and they're all excellent fighters, but Reyes, Santos, and Gus were never considered elite, outside of the fact that they all came close to beating Jones.

 

[mkt]

Bisping took way more damage against Hendo than Nemkov did from Yoel. I don’t see how that’s debatable.

It seems like you sort of shifted your point from saying Nemkov didn’t look good against Yoel, to talking about the significance of the win. I agree it’s not the greatest win in the world, but I disagree that Nemkov didn’t look good against him. He handled Yoel fine.

Yoel hurt Nemkov at one point, too. I'm not shifting anything. And I think current Nemkov is a better fighter than a late 30's Bisping who would've lost his belt in his first defense if he faced a legit MW contender at the time (Jacare, Whittaker, etc.). I'm just saying Nemkov has faced mostly old guys who couldn't win a belt in the UFC during their primes. Corey isn't too old, but he went 10-5 in the UFC and never earned a title shot while there. If Nemkov consistently fought the likes of Jiri (who beat him once already), Hill, Jan, Poatan, etc., he'd have some losses. He's not going to dominate the division with ease, even if it's at its weakest point in a long time. I don't know if he could even earn a title shot if he came to the UFC when prime version of Jones, Cormier and Rumble were in it.

 

[mkt]

Jones has looked mediocre in several fights, and he's the LHW GOAT. And all due respect to his competitors, and they're all excellent fighters, but Reyes, Santos, and Gus were never considered elite, outside of the fact that they all came close to beating Jones.

True, but the Jones who fought those guys was nothing like the version who beat Rampage, Shogun, Machida, Rashad, Cormier, etc. It's similar to GSP who still won his final fights against Condit, Shields, Diaz, Hendricks, etc. after his ACL inuries/surgeries, but didn't look like his prime, circa 2009 self.

 

[mkt]

No + you don't know his level under USADA.

True. I don't know if Nemkov is on anything or not, but testing in Coker's organizations is a joke. Overeem, Barnett, Bigfoot and Werdum never failed a test in Strikeforce and all of them got busted with a few years in the UFC.

 

[BFoe]

Yoel hurt Nemkov at one point, too. I'm not shifting anything. And I think current Nemkov is a better fighter than a late 30's Bisping who would've lost his belt in his first defense if he faced a legit MW contender at the time (Jacare, Whittaker, etc.). I'm just saying Nemkov has faced mostly old guys who couldn't win a belt in the UFC during their primes. Corey isn't too old, but he went 10-5 in the UFC and never earned a title shot while there. If Nemkov consistently fought the likes of Jiri (who beat him once already), Hill, Jan, Poatan, etc., he'd have some losses. He's not going to dominate the division with ease, even if it's at its weakest point in a long time. I don't know if he could even earn a title shot if he came to the UFC when prime version of Jones, Cormier and Rumble were in it.

People said the same thing about Jiri before he came over from RIZIN.
And Nemkov got the better of Jiri when they fought, actually. He had no idea how to pave himself for a 10 minute round, but if you were to simply watch the round they fought and score it, Nemkov won the round. That’s definitely a fight I’d love to see run back. I’m a big fan of both guys.

In a world where #7 ranked Jamahal Hill won the belt, I think it’s pretty clear that Nemkov is championship material. How long or short his reign would be? Who knows.

 

[BOTTICELLI]

Jiri Prochazka retired him tho

 

[Cptn1NSAN0]

Fuck it, why not. Get him in there!

 

[Frank Kain]

Ddin't look that great against a 46-year old recently.

He won, didn’t he?

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Yoel hurt Nemkov at one point, too. I'm not shifting anything. And I think current Nemkov is a better fighter than a late 30's Bisping who would've lost his belt in his first defense if he faced a legit MW contender at the time (Jacare, Whittaker, etc.). I'm just saying Nemkov has faced mostly old guys who couldn't win a belt in the UFC during their primes. Corey isn't too old, but he went 10-5 in the UFC and never earned a title shot while there. If Nemkov consistently fought the likes of Jiri (who beat him once already), Hill, Jan, Poatan, etc., he'd have some losses. He's not going to dominate the division with ease, even if it's at its weakest point in a long time. I don't know if he could even earn a title shot if he came to the UFC when prime version of Jones, Cormier and Rumble were in it.

Hill got mopped up by Daniel Craig who went life and death with the fossil of Shogun.

Jan got knocked and strangled by 50 year old Glover.

Jiri went life and death with 50 year old Glover.

Vadim dominated Phil Davis who mopped Glover and Jan.

Nemkov also dominated Cory Anderson in the rematch who also mopped Glover and Jan.

Nemkov has has 6 title fights and 4 title defenses in Bellator.

Nemkov is still good but it's going to be hard to maintain this peak after all these title fights. If he plans to come to the UFC he has to come now. If he comes in 2 years and loses the rats on this forum will say he was never good. It's normal.

The fact is he was already peaking 3 years ago and there is no way he will still be in peak form in 2 years.

But at his very best Nemkov is easily better Jamal Hill, Jan, Glover, Poatan and has better and more well rounded skillset than Jiri.

And is the only UFC LHW who has a skill set to match Nemkovs but his last performance against Jan left for a lot to be desired.

 

[don't ask]

But Yoel is 46 and MW Costa beat a better/younger version of him 4 years ago. In fact, Yoel lost his last 4 UFC fights at MW. It's no better than Bisping beating a 46-year old Hendo (who is very similar to Yoel stylistically).

Nemkov beat the version of Yoel that was able to juice much more freely.

Yeah, I agree he's in the Top 5 mix and could win the belt, but he's definitely not some prime Jones type fighter.

Jones wouldn't have been a prime Jones type fighter if he wasn't cheating with PEDs and poking eyes.

 

[mkt]

Nemkov beat the version of Yoel that was able to juice much more freely.

And Nemkov could juice just as much while being 15 years younger. And if Nemkov is on PEDs, he'll have to stop or curtail his use greatly in the UFC which would diminish his chances. Juicing isn't a fountain of youth, either, even if Yoel is roiding. If if it were, Vitor Belfort could go to Bellator and become a champ.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

No + you don't know his level under USADA.

OK so basically UFC fighters aren't as good because they don't get to use PEDs but they are better then Nemkov because they are in the UFC? Which is it? Bellator fighters are at an advantage or UFC fighters are just better?

Nemkov beat Corey Anderson. Corey Anderson is as good or better than anyone in the UFC LHW division right now. Saying No and also excuse excuse excuse is lazy and stupid.

 

[mkt]

Nemkov is still good but it's going to be hard to maintain this peak after all these title fights.

After all these title fights against UFC rejects, who are mostly old guys and none of whom could win a UFC strap in their prime. But I see you already have a ready-made excuse if Nemkov comes to the UFC. I hope you realize everything you said (including the "50 year old" repetitive line) negates everything you're trying to prove about Nemkov. He just beat a guy who's several years older than Glover.

 

[don't ask]

And Nemkov could juice just as much while being 15 years younger.

That's exactly my point: his UFC opponents didn't have the same option.

And if Nemkov is on PEDs, he'll have to stop or curtail his use greatly in the UFC which would diminish his chances. Juicing isn't a fountain of youth, either, even if Yoel is roiding. If if it were, Vitor Belfort could go to Bellator and become a champ.

There's a reason fighters like Randy Couture and Dan Henderson were able to fight at the top level so late in their careers.

 

[don't ask]

After all these title fights against UFC rejects, who are mostly old guys and none of whom could win a UFC strap in their prime..

It's more accurate to say they couldn't beat Jones, not that they couldn't win the belt today.

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

After all these title fights against UFC rejects, who are mostly old guys and none of whom could win a UFC strap in their prime. But I see you already have a ready-made excuse if Nemkov comes to the UFC. I hope you realize everything you said (including the "50 year old" repetitive line) negates everything you're trying to prove about Nemkov. He just beat a guy who's several years older than Glover.

You call them UFC rejects because you're an insecure UFC fanboy.

If they're "UFC rejects" what does that say about the last two UFC champions who got mopped by them?

Insecure UFC fanboys are the best.

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Jiri beat him once already.

Jiri got the shit beat out of him. Then Nemkov gassed from the 10 minute round and couldn't continue. He got tired from beating the shit out if Jiri. Since then he's had multiple 5 round fights and didn't get tired.

 

[krelianx]

Ankalaev is the uncrowned champion of the division. But he's being blocked by Dana because of his style and utter lack of charisma, alas.