Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread: The Announcements

[JamesRussler]

YES!!!

I AM SO HAPPY!!!

 

[Four]

Gives perfect example of empty suit President.

Obama was the best president of the last 2 decades. You can argue all you want, but I’m right.

 

[Trotsky]

Idk why you’re doing this. Do you just like arguing with people?

Am I missing something? Looks like he's just supplying you with Beto's rationale (whether it's an accurate account, I do not know).

 

[Trotsky]

Obama was the best president of the last 2 decades. You can argue all you want, but I’m right.

Yeah, it's not close. The nearest president that you could in good faith argue was better was Lyndon Johnson, and that was 50 years ago.

 

[Lead]

Am I missing something? Looks like he's just supplying you with Beto's rationale (whether it's an accurate account, I do not know).

But I believe he disagrees with tearing the fence down as well and is just playing devils advocate.

 

[waiguoren]

Idk why you’re doing this. Do you just like arguing with people?

But I believe he disagrees with tearing the fence down as well and is just playing devils advocate.

I like to keep an open mind. I don't have a strong opinion on this matter anyway. Seems like you are against open borders but can't offer your reasoning.

 

[Lead]

I like to keep an open mind. I don't have a strong opinion on this matter anyway. Seems like you are against open borders but can't offer your reasoning.

I’m fine with discussing something if you actually had a different stance than I originally thought. Laws and policies shouldn’t be catered to those who violate them. An open border policy could only work effectively where the two countries essentially had similar economies and social programs. With Mexico or any of the countries South of it, that isn’t the case.

Very interesting you don’t have a strong opinion on open borders with Mexico. I wouldn’t have guessed that as most people here make a point to say they are against it.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

@Trotsky

 

[Lead]

Stacey Abrams says Biden 2020 running mate rumors are 'made up'
Washington Examiner

Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams tried to deflect claims that former Vice President Joe Biden might choose her as his 2020 running mate.

Abrams, 45, said reports that Biden, 76, was considering choosing her for the number two spoton his ticket were “pure speculation made up by somebody else.” Biden and Abrams sat down for a meeting over breakfast this month, fueling conjecture of the two joining forces.

"Vice President Biden and I had a lovely lunch. And we talked about food and we talked about, I mean look, we talked about the presidency and what it means,” Abrams said at a Los Angeles event promoting her new book.

 

[Lead]

Not too significant as it's one poll but interesting none the less:

Buttigieg surges to third place in new Iowa poll
The Hill

South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) surged into third place in a poll of the Iowa caucus released Sunday.

Eleven percent of likely Democratic Iowa caucusgoers surveyed by Emerson Polling said they would pick Buttigieg to be their 2020 presidential nominee.

Overall, Buttigieg placed third behind Former Vice President Joe Biden, at 25 percent, and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), at 24 percent.

The only other candidate to receive double-digit support was Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who was the choice for 10 percent of respondents.

He also placed second with younger voters, only shorter in support than Bernie with 44%

 

[bobgeese]

Obama was the best president of the last 2 decades. You can argue all you want, but I’m right.

Obama armed radical jihadists and contributed to the genocide of half a million Syrians.

So, you're either racist, or a sub potato intelligence liberal.


FFS, Bill Clinton was easily better.

 

[bobgeese]

Yeah, it's not close. The nearest president that you could in good faith argue was better was Lyndon Johnson, and that was 50 years ago.

See the post above.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Not too significant as it's one poll but interesting none the less:

Buttigieg surges to third place in new Iowa poll
The Hill


He also placed second with younger voters, only shorter in support than Bernie with 44%

Can't see any reason to prefer him to Warren, but he's pretty impressive. Probably takes the third spot for me.

 

[Four]

Obama armed radical jihadists and contributed to the genocide of half a million Syrians.

So, you're either racist, or a sub potato intelligence liberal.


FFS, Bill Clinton was easily better.

That’s a lot of stupid to unwrap in one post.

If you were anyone else besides bobgeese, I would consider actually addressing, but instead I’m just going to call you stupid, since you’re too stupid to have an honest discussion and potentially change your mind.

 

[bobgeese]

That’s a lot of stupid to unwrap in one post.

If you were anyone else besides bobgeese, I would consider actually addressing, but instead I’m just going to call you stupid, since you’re too stupid to have an honest discussion and potentially change your mind.

Concession accepted.

 

[Lead]

Can't see any reason to prefer him to Warren, but he's pretty impressive. Probably takes the third spot for me.

I haven't heard a lot of his campaign speeches but Warren is doing a bad job campaign wise imo. I honestly thought she was going to be more of a presence in this race but I'm beginning to doubt it. I don't how what candidates fill in that lane if she leaves or if it just gets consolidated into Bernie or Biden.

He seems like he could get a higher office than Mayor with his credentials. I don't really know why he's making a play for president but he probably will get some national name recognition at the least. He qualifies for the first debate.

 

[BarryDillon]

Not too significant as it's one poll but interesting none the less:

Buttigieg surges to third place in new Iowa poll
The Hill


He also placed second with younger voters, only shorter in support than Bernie with 44%

I like Pete a lot. He's intelligent, and comes across very well.

 

[Lead]

I like Pete a lot. He's intelligent, and comes across very well.

Does it come as a surprise he's third for Iowa? I suppose I haven't thought out who I believe has the best chance at the early states (Iowa, NH, SC, NV) but I guess he could get transaction there. With how crowded the field is and how I think some candidates are planning strategies for later states like SC or California, I think it does take a little bit of weight off Iowa. It might consolidate the lane of whoever wins it but that may be all.

 

[BarryDillon]

Does it come as a surprise he's third for Iowa? I suppose I haven't thought out who I believe has the best chance at the early states (Iowa, NH, SC, NV) but I guess he could get transaction there. With how crowded the field is and how I think some candidates are planning strategies for later states like SC or California, I think it does take a little bit of weight off Iowa. It might consolidate the lane of whoever wins it but that may be all.

It is surprising to me somewhat. But, with so many candidates, it may be easier to stand out with consistently good performances. Everyone else is kind of blending together.

 

[Happy Man]

Not too significant as it's one poll but interesting none the less:

Buttigieg surges to third place in new Iowa poll
The Hill


He also placed second with younger voters, only shorter in support than Bernie with 44%

Great news! This guy doesn’t play the divisive identitarian political game. Thank God for that.

Still like tulsi more. Also like yang and Bernie. Only four worthy of any respect from the Democrat party