Elections 2016 Democratic/GOP Super Tuesday Primary Thread

[Hogey]

Good for Trump because he can keep winning with 32-49% of the vote as long as Cruz and Rubio stay in. Rubio vows to stay in to stop Trump, but by staying in he may actually help Trump win the nomination except for the slight chance of the brokered convention.

Well then Cruz should get the fuck out.

 

[Tol]

Watching Texas really closely right now. That asshole Cruz did better than expected, and it's hurting Rubio. Cruz has won three states, but he has no presence outside the South, and Kasich (though I am pulling for him) has no presence outside the Northeast.

Whether or not Hillary Clinton is our next President likely rides on whether or not he can close those 1%-2% gaps in the lower three states. If not, the delegates will be too split, and the GOP will either be forced to go with Trump, who again showed tonight that he can't manage a truly dominating victory anywhere and break his disfavorability "ceiling", nor who has proven he can do well with anybody but white GOP voters; or, alternatively, to "play defense" on the 1,237 with a split convention.

It has become relatively clear tonight that either of these scenarios will result in an lay-up general election win for Hillary.

A Rubio/Kasich or Rubio/Haley ticket would have been nice, but Kasich is starting to get on my nerves by not dropping out. And lacking eyebrows reminds me of a burn victim.

There's only one way I see Trump going down, and that's if Cruz and Rubio team up. Like after the next debate and before Florida. If Cruz offered Rubio VP right now to drop out after the debate, they could tag team Trump again, Rubio can play hitman while Cruz takes the high road not stooping to Trumps level. Rubio can save some face by staying in the race as a VP candidate and not have to suffer losing his home state of Florida. Cruz would in theory get most all of Rubio's supporters, instead of risking some going to Trump or Kasich. Crubio need to unite like 5th Element to stop Trump before it's too late.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

I would say the people talking about black voters being lower IQ, and the only reason they do not vote for Bernie because they have not heard of him is fairly racist. It flat out saying they are dumber than others in one point, and saying they cannot research and come to their own opinions in the other.

Its worse some go further than that. Some say that those who have heard of Bernie and still don't vote for him are stupid and have no idea what they are talking about.

Then they proceed to post the arrest picture of Sanders from the 60s at civil rights March and then Demand that all black people should not think for themselves. In fact several people in this thread have done some of these things. There is also a belief among some that all people in the south are of low intelligence including the whites.

 

[Sycho Sid]

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-julian-castro-iowa-clinton-20160125-story.html

There you go

I do not know much about him, so I will have to read up. But from a purely demographic standpoint, he is a great choice. Young, Hispanic, charismatic, and seemingly liberal.

 

[Diamond Jim]

Well then Cruz should get the fuck out.

Why Cruz? He's won 3 states, including his home state. Rubio won Minnesota and is down in all the polls in Florida.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I would say the people talking about black voters being lower IQ, and the only reason they do not vote for Bernie because they have not heard of him is fairly racist. It flat out saying they are dumber than others in one point, and saying they cannot research and come to their own opinions in the other.

He didn't say they were lower IQ, he said "Low IQ Voters", the same term we would use for every single person who votes for Donald Trump, who wasn't in the 1%. And its not even remotely racist to say "they" voted for Hillary from name recognition or that "they" weren't familiar with Bernie Sanders. That is pretty factual. When you look at why blacks support the Clintons it is pretty much spot on with name recognition and myth. A lot of the praise the Clintons get from all walks of life is based on myth. And there are low IQ voters of all walks of life, not just blacks or rednecks. The only reason black voters are discussed so much re: Bernie Sanders is because 1. their support is essential for the Democratic nominee and 2. he polls so poorly in that demographic in spite of his record and message compared to Hillary Clintons.
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/01/468185698/understanding-the-clintons-popularity-with-black-voters

edit: he didn't even say "low iq" he said uninformed.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

My guess is one of the Castro brothers . They've been grooming him for awhile
Julian Castro vice

I hope not I do not want him on the ticket.

There are so many better options. People are only picking him because he is 'Hispanic'. And in racist white liberal mind that is all that matters.

How about picking someone with some skin in the game who can be tasked to do more than act like a trophy? Joe Biden was an excellent pick by Obama.

 

[bad seed]

Ben Carson blames rotten political system for poor showing.

lmao

 

[Diamond Jim]

Bernie wins Minnesota.

That's 4 states tonight.

 

[COTUR1@43]

Minnesota Berning according to Fox.

 

[Fatt Hughes]

Bernie mounting some wins tonight. Impressive.

 

[NelmarksGhost]

• Julian Castro +255
• Field -365

• Tim Kaine +380
• Field -570

• Elizabeth Warren +550
• Field -1050

• Cory Booker +600
• Field -1200

• Martin O’Malley +1100
• Field -2300

• Bernie Sanders +1200
• Field -2600
  
  http://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/usa-presidential-election-2016-vice-president-odds

 

[Hogey]

Why Cruz? He's won 3 states, including his home state. Rubio won Minnesota and is down in all the polls in Florida.

Because I want him to ......

 

[bad seed]

my VP pick for Bern.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

He didn't say they were lower IQ, he said "Low IQ Voters", the same term we would use for every single person who votes for Donald Trump, who wasn't in the 1%. And its not even remotely racist to say "they" voted for Hillary from name recognition or that "they" weren't familiar with Bernie Sanders. That is pretty factual. When you look at why blacks support the Clintons it is pretty much spot on with name recognition and myth. A lot of the praise the Clintons get from all walks of life is based on myth. And there are low IQ voters of all walks of life, not just blacks or rednecks. The only reason black voters are discussed so much re: Bernie Sanders is because 1. their support is essential for the Democratic nominee and 2. he polls so poorly in that demographic in spite of his record and message compared to Hillary Clintons.
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/01/468185698/understanding-the-clintons-popularity-with-black-voters

BLAH BLAH BLAH "black people and minorities and working class whites are all idiots who can't think for themselves like urban liberal under 4p whites" oh and "only the rich won't clinton".

You are doing it again.

FYI Bernie thinks people like you are gross. I also wonder what he would think about a self admitted conspiracy theorist right winger libertarian who supports him out of some false identity politics thing.

A man who admits he would vote against leftists interests by refusing to vote Hillary in the general if she wins the Democratic nomination.

 

[Quipling]

I would say the people talking about black voters being lower IQ, and the only reason they do not vote for Bernie because they have not heard of him is fairly racist. It flat out saying they are dumber than others in one point, and saying they cannot research and come to their own opinions in the other.

I don't know if it's racism per se, but it strongly resembles the remarks one hears from certain conservative elements along the lines of "Why won't these blacks listen to me? I know what's best for them, they're just too ignorant to know it."

 

[VivaRevolution]

I would say the people talking about black voters being lower IQ, and the only reason they do not vote for Bernie because they have not heard of him is fairly racist. It flat out saying they are dumber than others in one point, and saying they cannot research and come to their own opinions in the other.

You guys must have read a different post than I did, because I read no mention of race, and thought he was calling southerners dumb, which is apparently ok as long as we are talking about republicans.

 

[Madmick]

He can't keep losing states. He has yet to win I mean how can he win at this point?

Also I'd bet that Clinton destroys Rubio but think he has the best shot at beating her.

I think the polls are probably off about Rubio or Kasich beating Clinton, but yes, they clearly have the best chance.

He has to win more states, I agree, and he is winning Minnesota decisively, but you have to remember that all delegates are apportioned, so long as you meet the minimums, through Super Tuesday. The requirement to win states becomes much more pressing as the winner-take-all states come around. Before today the emphasis on winning is on positioning yourself as "electable" prior to Super Tuesday. So Cruz could actually pull a higher delegate count, due to his concentration of support in the South, but nobody likes Cruz anywhere else. A couple southern states can't carry a general election. If Cruz can beat Rubio in Florida, then that would put it to bed, but right now, he's still clearly a less threatening alternative to Trump in a general election.

 

[Lead]

Castro has been like 90% of the speculation at this point. Can't really think of a shortlist beyond him at this point. He is the clearest guy that is younger and they can move the party forward with. Most of the Dem stars are older and a VP term could be their last ambition rather than running President after (kinda like Biden). With Hillary being older, you'd have to assume she would counter on age with a younger politician.

 

[Handsomebwonderfull]

I hope not I do not want him on the ticket.

There are so many better options. People are only picking him because he is 'Hispanic'. And in racist white liberal mind that is all that matters.

How about picking someone with some skin in the game who can be tasked to do more than act like a trophy? Joe Biden was an excellent pick by Obama.

Nah. He's a good pick. Charismatic, intelligent, he's connected well. Obama brought him in to groom him for the spot years ago. He's qualified