2014 War Room Awards

[Perfidious]

the one major problem with your conclusion is this.

http://ohtopten.com/top-10-safest-countries-in-the-world/4/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

http://lifestyle9.com/top-10-safest-countries-to-live-in-the-world/2/

and which people are the majority in this safe countries.

let just settle this, do you believes that some race are more inherently violence than others ?

He was making a BS point to combat BS. He was arguing against races being inherently violent. This isn't difficult.

 

[Lovestorm]

Apparently, my racist one liners still carry some degree of substance lol

 

[IDL]

HateStorm is a bitter racist who pops into threads with one liners of very little substance. IDL is a troll or a psychopath slowly losing the battle with insanity who believes a small group of devil worshipers are slowly and silently molding the world to their will.

These are your peers.

I was going to make a charitable donation in your name to help needy children in Israel, but after these pot shots I'm afraid the offer is no longer valid.

You have just caused children to go hungry and it was completely avoidable.

 

[Jukai]

Now now, psychopath is a strong word. But he is definitely in a losing battle with his sanity.
I think he's an odd character. Most CT'ers, like TrollGrappler or Gotti, are really aggressive in their stances. Most likely because they've been ridiculed for so long. But IDL keeps marching on with the same theories, no matter how much he get ridiculed, with the same "nice" attitude in every thread. I don't know if that's admirable or concerning. That he believes his theory is definitely concerning though.

I wouldn't call him a psychopath though. But i sincerely hope he don't start turning into some form of pre-mental institution John Nash (without the smarts), where he will start acting upon his crazy theories. That could turn ugly.

You're right, my language was too strong. Apologies.

If we're going to throw on our psychoanalytical hats, I think IDL is half conspiracy theorist and half troll-- and I believe that because his evolution happened right infront of our eyes.

He isn't like the now legendary Payak, who over his five year tenure on this message board slowly went from an amateur fighter worried about his broken nose to a Muay Thai pro with over 300 fights who once gave Jomhod a run for his money, a transformation that was so subtle it went unnoticed... IDL came in as a reasonable young libertarian, but then started making threads like "omg I read this article on this alternative news site, is this true?" and "Holy cow, how does Israel exist when we know about the Scrolls of the Elder Zion!"
Of course, a problem immediately arose: he was proven wrong. A lot. And this sucked, because he was beginning to develop all these elaborate conspiracy theories about our world, and by being wrong so much, he kept having to remake these theories.
To resolve this, he started being intentionally vague almost to a comical extent. He would make these bold claims, then when pressed for information, he simply replied with the fact that he has done so much research that he couldn't possibly relay what he had learned to us and even if he could, it would cheapen the experience of finding out for ourselves. It is like he went around the comment sections on all these alternative news websites and took all the keywords he could find and made a persona out of it. He still believes these conspiracy theories, but his posting style is an act to prevent being embarrassed again.
After the way-too-much-fun Bingo fiasco, he's widened his vocabulary and doesn't really make predictions anymore, simply responds to any pro-Russian or race-involved thread with snide "I told you, my predictions are all coming true!!!" remarks. He still believes everything he says, but his posting style is one big facade.

Eh? Wadya think?

 

[IDL]

LMAO. You get points for creativity and story telling Jukai. Sounds like something you might end up telling your kids about around the campfire.

 

[sickc0d3r]

You're right, my language was too strong. Apologies.

If we're going to throw on our psychoanalytical hats, I think IDL is half conspiracy theorist and half troll-- and I believe that because his evolution happened right infront of our eyes.

He isn't like the now legendary Payak, who over his five year tenure on this message board slowly went from an amateur fighter worried about his broken nose to a Muay Thai pro with over 300 fights who once gave Jomhod a run for his money, a transformation that was so subtle it went unnoticed... IDL came in as a reasonable young libertarian, but then started making threads like "omg I read this article on this alternative news site, is this true?" and "Holy cow, how does Israel exist when we know about the Scrolls of the Elder Zion!"
Of course, a problem immediately arose: he was proven wrong. A lot. And this sucked, because he was beginning to develop all these elaborate conspiracy theories about our world, and by being wrong so much, he kept having to remake these theories.
To resolve this, he started being intentionally vague almost to a comical extent. He would make these bold claims, then when pressed for information, he simply replied with the fact that he has done so much research that he couldn't possibly relay what he had learned to us and even if he could, it would cheapen the experience of finding out for ourselves. It is like he went around the comment sections on all these alternative news websites and took all the keywords he could find and made a persona out of it. He still believes these conspiracy theories, but his posting style is an act to prevent being embarrassed again.
After the way-too-much-fun Bingo fiasco, he's widened his vocabulary and doesn't really make predictions anymore, simply responds to any pro-Russian or race-involved thread with snide "I told you, my predictions are all coming true!!!" remarks. He still believes everything he says, but his posting style is one big facade.

Eh? Wadya think?

I think it's more like 75% troll. Any War Room vet knows a true CT'er would have been hurling the "shill" label at half the posters in here by now.

 

[Thames]

You're right, my language was too strong. Apologies.

If we're going to throw on our psychoanalytical hats, I think IDL is half conspiracy theorist and half troll-- and I believe that because his evolution happened right infront of our eyes.

He isn't like the now legendary Payak, who over his five year tenure on this message board slowly went from an amateur fighter worried about his broken nose to a Muay Thai pro with over 300 fights who once gave Jomhod a run for his money, a transformation that was so subtle it went unnoticed... IDL came in as a reasonable young libertarian, but then started making threads like "omg I read this article on this alternative news site, is this true?" and "Holy cow, how does Israel exist when we know about the Scrolls of the Elder Zion!"
Of course, a problem immediately arose: he was proven wrong. A lot. And this sucked, because he was beginning to develop all these elaborate conspiracy theories about our world, and by being wrong so much, he kept having to remake these theories.
To resolve this, he started being intentionally vague almost to a comical extent. He would make these bold claims, then when pressed for information, he simply replied with the fact that he has done so much research that he couldn't possibly relay what he had learned to us and even if he could, it would cheapen the experience of finding out for ourselves. It is like he went around the comment sections on all these alternative news websites and took all the keywords he could find and made a persona out of it. He still believes these conspiracy theories, but his posting style is an act to prevent being embarrassed again.
After the way-too-much-fun Bingo fiasco, he's widened his vocabulary and doesn't really make predictions anymore, simply responds to any pro-Russian or race-involved thread with snide "I told you, my predictions are all coming true!!!" remarks. He still believes everything he says, but his posting style is one big facade.

Eh? Wadya think?

Well done professor.

I kind of hoped that the change in his posting style was reflecting of the fact that he had gotten smarter. But recent threads has shown me that he just needs someone to appear interested in his theories, and he will start spouting the same old stuff all over again (just without linking to any "sources" anymore). Which just goes to show that he knows that the places were he read his information were bad.

It's super odd. The most reasonable explanation would be that he is in fact just trolling. But then he is one dedicated troll, I have to say.

LMAO. You get points for creativity and story telling Jukai. Sounds like something you might end up telling your kids about around the campfire.

Some points you felt were inaccurate?

 

[Gandhi]

What is IDL bingo?

Is that like you have a bingo board but instead of letters you have IDL sayings?

 

[Pem123]

Erhhhhhh... That was not part of his conclusion.. His conclusion was that correlation does not always equal causation. Large black prison population ≠ blacks are more prone to crime -> reduction in overall crime rate with increasing immigration rates ≠ immigrants are less prone to crime.

Secondly. Is it not you why are trying to say that some races are inherently more violent with those links you just posted?

wut.

 

[Jukai]

LMAO. You get points for creativity and story telling Jukai. Sounds like something you might end up telling your kids about around the campfire.

No offense, but I wouldn't tell my kids about you. You're no Conan Memories. My grandchildren will know his name.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

He was making a BS point to combat BS. He was arguing against races being inherently violent. This isn't difficult.

Exactly.

But now I'm thinking HE wants to argue that whites are inherently less violent. Either that or he's trolling because I trolled him. Which is really just overkill at this point.

 

[Jukai]

What is IDL bingo?

Is that like you have a bingo board but instead of letters you have IDL sayings?

My card:

I think Wolveswithkeys was the winner.

 

[TheyAreSurfers]

IDL thinks everything has a massive underlying conspiracy theory-some very grand.

Unlike some hating on him here, it's hard to actually tell if he's wrong or right, but we do see world going to hell and this country getting taken over by special interests. We do know secret societies are real, since Alex Jones infiltration.


But not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, of course. It's just become hard to discern what is and what isn't these days. IDL is just there to get you thinking critically.
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Is some a CTer if they belive:

1. Flight 93 was shot down to prevent it from flying into white house
2. Kennedy was killed by generals and Oswald was set up(he was never even indicted before being killed in prison transfer)
3. 9/11 attack was known up the food chain in advance
4. Secret societies are battling for world control.
5. Media is owned by zionists and members of secret societies.

Odds are half of these theories/hypotheses are true.

 

[Gandhi]

My card:

I think Wolveswithkeys was the winner.

That is off the charts funny..def PM string of the year

 

[IDL]

Some points you felt were inaccurate?

Almost all of it, except he did correctly notice a change in my posting as time has progressed.

I understand what triggers people and what doesn't better, after observing peoples reactions to various views on things. I don't want to trigger people because it is destructive. I understand that some views and information has the potential to set people off, and I understand why.

I'll go into things if there is interest in doing so, but I won't press the issue as much. Some people are interested and some aren't, which is fine.

When I started here I was certainly not a libertarian, not sure where he got that from. Left of center, moderate liberal I would say would be more accurate. I trusted government to take care of things because I thought it worked for the people.

I'm also 0% troll. I don't take any pleasure whatsoever of getting a rise out of people just for the sake of it. I don't see the point.

conspiracy theorist is such a vague term as well to the point where it is meaningless beyond silly labels. If someone digs into a corporation and finds that they paid off a politician for something against the public best interest does that make someone a conspiracy theorist, and thus someone not to be listened to? It's not like it's some sort of profession. It's basically just a label to slap on people who dig into things and try to make sense of what goes on behind the scenes.

 

[Jukai]

That is off the charts funny..def PM string of the year

I found the thread.

 

[Thames]

wut.

You just said his conclusion was wrong. Then you posted 4 links showing that places that overwhelmingly white or japanese, are the best places on earth.

Almost all of it, except he did correctly notice a change in my posting as time has progressed.

I understand what triggers people and what doesn't better, after observing peoples reactions to various views on things. I don't want to trigger people because it is destructive. I understand that some views and information has the potential to set people off, and I understand why.

I'll go into things if there is interest in doing so, but I won't press the issue as much. Some people are interested and some aren't, which is fine.

When I started here I was certainly not a libertarian, not sure where he got that from. Left of center, moderate liberal I would say would be more accurate.

I'm also 0% troll. I don't take any pleasure whatsoever of getting a rise out of people just for the sake of it. I don't see the point.

conspiracy theorist is such a vague term as well to the point where it is meaningless beyond silly labels. If someone digs into a corporation and finds that they paid off a politician for something against the public best interest does that make someone a conspiracy theorist, and thus someone not to be listened to? It's not like it's some sort of profession. It's basically just a label to slap on people who dig into things.

mhmm
What I noticed however is that you never post "sources" anymore. Is that not because you have acknowledged that your sources were shit? Then why do you still post the exact same information from those sources (just without linking to them), If you're not trolling?

 

[IDL]

No offense, but I wouldn't tell my kids about you. You're no Conan Memories. My grandchildren will know his name.

That's good, I'm sure it will be an epic tale regardless of the character.

 

[Gandhi]

Worst banning

Kevin Rudd

 

[Jukai]

Worst banning

Kevin Rudd

Literally one of the best posters in the War Room. Total horseshit.