Rewatch 17 years ago, Hong Man Choi had Fedor scared

[HHJ]

Too bad we never got Bob Sapp vs Fedor in Pride

Sapp actually wasnt in Pride for very long. He mostly fought in K-1 and Heroes

 

[Johnnny]

 

[Kingz]

Not as scared as that time Mark Hunt “brutalized” Fedor for 8 minutes, Joe

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

 

[Bullitt68]

I believe there was even special rules like HMC couldn't knee or something too, don't think any other Fedor fight had rules like that

Yeah that's kinda weak sauce as that was clearly only going to disadvantage HMC

In that instance FEdor was helped by the same russian maffia that helped him dodge Ubereem and the entire UFC.

I’m pretty sure the Yaranoka! org was using Pride rules, where if there’s a significant weight advantage knees to the head were disallowed. I believe Vitor/Heath Herring had that rule in place when they fought at heavyweight in Pride, just as an example.

Another one was the Nogueira vs. Sapp fight, where PRIDE rules were modified. Nogueira was significantly smaller than Sapp and requested a special rule to ban knee strikes to the head of a grounded opponent. This was done due to the large size disparity and to protect Nogueira from Sapp's power.

Didnt know that...that changes things in retrospect maybe HMC could have been the guy to dethrone Fedor but it was a safety thing for these freakshow fights.

Still remembering the time when Fedor was seen an unstoppable machine, never be times like those.

Because the weight disparity was over 100 lbs. It was probably something, even the japanese couldnt do with whatever semblance of athletic comissions they had there.

HMC was never in a position to throw 4 point knees anyway

For reference, the PRIDE rule was if a fighter was outweighed by 15 kg, then it was their call whether to allow knees to the head, soccer kicks, and stomps. The best was Cro Cop always allowing it because he knew he'd be the one using those strikes on his bigger opponents

 

[don't ask]

Because he's 7 feet tall?

I read about this in DUH magazine.

Semmy is six ten and Fedor took him down with ease. Sounds like Duh Magazine doesn't really think about its own opinions.

 

[HHJ]

Semmy is six ten and Fedor took him down with ease. Sounds like Duh Magazine doesn't really think about its own opinions.

HMC is 7 2

DO THE MATH

 

[Fight Professor]

That fight could have been every interesting if submissions were not allowed.

 

[HHJ]

I’m pretty sure the Yaranoka! org was using Pride rules, where if there’s a significant weight advantage knees to the head were disallowed. I believe Vitor/Heath Herring had that rule in place when they fought at heavyweight in Pride, just as an example.

Another one was the Nogueira vs. Sapp fight, where PRIDE rules were modified. Nogueira was significantly smaller than Sapp and requested a special rule to ban knee strikes to the head of a grounded opponent. This was done due to the large size disparity and to protect Nogueira from Sapp's power.

Yep. It might be a japanese comission thing tbh. I wonder if they did that in K1-heroes.

 

[don't ask]

HMC is 7 2

DO THE MATH

So you got his height wrong the first time and now you're insisting like an idiot that it's his 4 inches of height that made a difference and not his legendary wrestling career?

You're not equipped to instruct anyone on any part of education.

 

[HHJ]

So you got his height wrong the first time and now you're insisting like an idiot that it's his 4 inches of height that made a difference and not his legendary wrestling career?

You're not equipped to instruct anyone on any part of education.

 

[icemun]

MMA Trivia

Went to see Brock make his debut against HMC in Los Angeles


Choi couldnt actually get sanctioned to fight in the US dues a medical disability

 

[Ibm]

People can say as they will but I honestly think Hong would have beaten Brock at Dynamite in his MMA debut.

 

[mkt]

There is one bigger

Yeah, but Choi was also pretty heavily muscled. A super tall, jacked Asian dude is super rare. I realize he was in orgs like K-1 which didn't test for PEDs.

I wonder if Jake Paul woud've been willing to box a prime Choi? He was probably too slow and awkward to land much, but had a lot of force behind his blows. No one was able to KO him in his early fights either, not Sapp, Schilt or Bonjasky.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

For reference, the PRIDE rule was if a fighter was outweighed by 15 kg, then it was their call whether to allow knees to the head, soccer kicks, and stomps. The best was Cro Cop always allowing it because he knew he'd be the one using those strikes on his bigger opponents

They don't make em like they used to

 

[mkt]

Since Choi fought Jose Canseco, this is a good opportunity to show the only known recorded foot race between two MMA competitors: Canseco and Herschel Walker. Gotta love Canseco starting the race like he's about to steal a base. Walker was an athletic freak in his prime (long before MMA).

 

[Trabaho]

If HMC had average skill he'd be a top 5 HW

 

[THE PIT VEGAS]

After HMC escaped the first armbar, Fedor's face was like: "wtf am I gonna do now?". When he got the second armbar attempt he was fist-pumping like "well I'm glad that's over".

So this was a scary fight for Fedor? The guy was a kickboxer, not an MMA fighter. He couldn't even knock out Kaoklai Kaennorsing in K-1 and Kaoklai was 5'9 175lbs.

 

[don't ask]

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Oh, I didn't realize you knew that based on the way you kept doing it. You don't seem like someone who thinks about their ideas.

 

[don't ask]

Since Choi fought Jose Canseco, this is a good opportunity to show the only known recorded foot race between two MMA competitors: Canseco and Herschel Walker. Gotta love Canseco starting the race like he's about to steal a base. Walker was an athletic freak in his prime (long before MMA).

Thoughts:

1. How is Darrel Green the fastest man in the NFL if Hershel Walker is in the NFL? Walker never posted a faster time than him before?

2. I was hoping Danny Sullivan would pull an upset, like when that skinny track dude significantly out-lifted hulking Joe Frazier in that athletic competition NBC held.