Let's remember Chuck Liddell...A masterful LHW MMA fighter.

[JustBleed69]

I know you love Chuck but he isn’t top 3 LHW of all time. He isn’t even top 5.

1. Jones
2. DC
3. Wand
4. Shogun
5. Rampage

Either way, war Chuck! A true legend of the sport

Nah

 

[RawkyMarciano]

Tito just cracked your "Chuck as a top 3 LHW" thesis. Chuck was solid in his day, but he wasn't even dominate over the best LHWs of the time. Rampage, Wand, Shogun, and even LHW Dan are better. In the modern era, Jones, DC, Rumble, Gus all smoke Chuck. Let it go. Jesus.

You won't ever have the sight to see greatness like true Iceman fans do. Prime Chuck is a always top 3 LHW.

 

[wlu.29]

Chuck never had the wars Wand had, and Chuck did not take vicious beatings and knockouts against Dan Henderson and Cro Cop, though.....

The Cro Cop fight finished Wand as a top fighter.

Did wanderlei fight little nog, overeem, randy, shogun,

He was able to avoid many top guys in his weight class

Sure he has great wins over rampage but other than that hes defined by his losses and beating up sakuraba

 

[Carl25]

 

[moreorless87]

Jones, DC, Gus, Rumble, Glover etc would all beat Chuck

I don't think the "etc" stands up since its really those 4 at the top(not Glover) who might be favoured over Chuck although I wouldn't be certain of it for Gus and Jones personally, for Jones that's quite a different style matchup to anyone he's faced previously.

 

[MuayThaiBX]

Hard hitter with a granite chin. Not master of anything. Randy took him to school in the first fight. He was also losing both those fights against metzger and overeem until he connected. He was good but this day and age his skills would not get him very far.

Exactly a hard hitter with granite chin. He always had bad defense but he could take a good shot and his punches were like anvils so he could get away with it. He'd either land first or take a punch and land a harder one of his own It also helped his legacy that while in the UFC he fought a lot of grapplers who didn't really test that open chin. When you're fighting guys like Babalu, Tito, Horn, Tiger White, etc you can leave your hands down and only worry about TDD and landing your right hand.

 

[the ambush]

Hard hitter with a granite chin. Not master of anything. Randy took him to school in the first fight. He was also losing both those fights against metzger and overeem until he connected. He was good but this day and age his skills would not get him very far.

Classic revisionist narrative in bold. What would be your point with that comment? There were other fights where Liddell was winning on points and lost, where it was reversed. It works both ways.

 

[moreorless87]

Exactly a hard hitter with granite chin. He always had bad defense but he could take a good shot and his punches were like anvils so he could get away with it. He'd either land first or take a punch and land a harder one of his own It also helped his legacy that while in the UFC he fought a lot of grapplers who didn't really test that open chin. When you're fighting guys like Babalu, Tito, Horn, Tiger White, etc you can leave your hands down and only worry about TDD and landing your right hand.

Honestly though you could say the same with Jon Jones and Gus in terms of bad defence and chin.

Its also a question of when your talking about IMHO as Chuck changed style quite significantly after losing to Randy becoming more of an anti grappler fighter.

 

[Langinbang187]

Did wanderlei fight little nog, overeem, randy, shogun,

He was able to avoid many top guys in his weight class

Sure he has great wins over rampage but other than that hes defined by his losses and beating up sakuraba

Overeem wasn't a top guy in pride.

 

[SHAZAM]

Ah the original eye gouger. The original "can't win without cheating " only surpassed by Jones. The "Eyes Man".

 

[RawkyMarciano]

Ah the original eye gouger. The original "can't win without cheating " only surpassed by Jones. The "Eyes Man".

Lmfao, no wonder you have double yellows. Gtfo.

Do not ever mention a foul character like Jones who is inextricably associated with PEDs and other criminal activity (hit and run incidence, DUI, etc.) next to Chuck liddell's name.

 

[NILLI]

Classic revisionist narrative in bold. What would be your point with that comment? There were other fights where Liddell was winning on points and lost, where it was reversed. It works both ways.

What are those other fights where he was winning on points and then lost? The one fight with Horn? Are you serious? He was almost every time having trouble but his chin and punching power carried him.

 

[20falarVerdades]

Lmfao, no wonder you have double yellows. Gtfo.

Do not ever mention a foul character like Jones who is inextricably associated with PEDs and other criminal activity (hit and run incidence, DUI, etc.) next to Chuck liddell's name.

Wasn't Jones going to be banned for 8 years ? LMAO

 

[gono btw]

Did wanderlei fight little nog, overeem, randy, shogun,

He was able to avoid many top guys in his weight class

Sure he has great wins over rampage but other than that hes defined by his losses and beating up sakuraba

Kondo,Tamura,Arona (controversial though),Fujita,Hendo,Mezger, Draw vs Crocop, controversial loss vs Hunto...pretty decent, no?

 

[savemgs]

The man was a beast and a Class Act much respect to the Iceman.
It's just unfortunate that he was in the UFC at the time because we never got to see him test his skills against the best. Wandy Shogun Dan Henderson Ricardo Arona.
Don't get me wrong Tito Ortiz and Randy Couture ware good but not the best.

 

[wlu.29]

Overeem wasn't a top guy in pride.

He was a top 10 guy at 205

 

[wlu.29]

Kondo,Tamura,Arona (controversial though),Fujita,Hendo,Mezger, Draw vs Crocop, controversial loss vs Hunto...pretty decent, no?

Arona beat him both times

Like I said more who he lost to than who he beat

Mezger was a good win

 

[Jack O'Neill]

Chuck was a bar brawler who wrestled in college. Far from "masterful" Just someone who hit hard and could take a hard hit and sprawl and brawl.

with a 20-2 record in kickboxing with 18 ko's.
and a black belt in kenpo

who left high kick ko'd babalu
ko'd babalu and several others while running backwards
hit with pinpoint accuracy
landed a jump spinning side kick to vitor belfort's liver


but yeah sure he was "a bar brawler who wrestled." the fuck out of here with that crap.

 

[RawkyMarciano]

Wasn't Jones going to be banned for 8 years ? LMAO

His sentence is a life sentence. That of being recognized like he is and will always be in the eyes of true MMA fans and any reputable authority in the sport.

 

[daniel san]

UFC legend but top 3 LHW? Lower top 10 maybe.