GSP refused to fight Silva, yet he's considered the GOAT... | Page 5

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  1. Fyreborn Brown Belt

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    I agree with most of this, but obviously MM did refuse to fight TJ. That's exactly what happened.

    I think he made the right choice for himself though. TJ wasn't champ. Why take such a high risk fight? Better to get a much weaker opponent in Ray Borg if the money is the same.
     
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  2. SherdogJoe Black Belt

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    Agreed. Goats don't turn down fights.

    Jones turned down Chael.

    GSP turned down Silva.

    Fedor would fight anyone
    Conor would fight anyone.

    The Goats name ends with an "or".
     
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  3. soulsstealer Red Belt

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    i thought mm issue was weight cutting. and it was borg who actually couldnt make weight, funnily enuff.

    also if you are ducking clear competition you are not a champ. imagine all the other champs ducking better fighters cuz they want more money sounds ridiculous.
     
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  4. Fyreborn Brown Belt

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    Champs do duck guys who they think aren't big draws. Happens all the time in MMA and boxing.

    MM used the weight cut thing as an excuse. He demanded the UFC guarantee his pay and cancel the fight if TJ missed weight, and UFC agreed, but said they'd have Ray Borg on the card as a backup opponent. That's perfectly reasonable. MM refused this. He just didn't want to fight TJ.

    And again, I think he made the right call for his career.
     
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    DJ did not refuse to fight TJ.
    He wanted to get paid fairly for it.

    There's a BIG difference.

    If UFC would pay him fairly, he would have accepted.
    But they wanted to replace Borg without adding any compensation for it.

    he did not refuse TJ. He refused the deal.
     
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  6. soulsstealer Red Belt

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    well how is ray borg a bigger draw than tj?

    ducking fights im sure is impressive to some ppl but those in the know cant actually respect someone like that.
     
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    Stop being so butt hurt just because people have a different opinion than you. Do you really want the entire world agreeing with you all the time?
     
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    Boy, but you are a dumb one.
    I don't care if anyone agrees with me.
    But there's a difference in opinion and denying facts just to bash a fighter.
    You are lying and blatantly ignoring facts just so you can bash DJ... how great a person does that make you?
     
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    You are filled with so much rage. Seriously, not good for your blood pressure. Chill man. Have a joint or something.
     
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  10. Lint2 Purple Belt

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    Come on, TJ is way better competition than anyone at DJ's weight.

    Still, he's not obligated to do anything, he doesn't complain about never being considered GOAT. (And I admire that.)
     
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    I always thought he was a small welterweight so I never felt he needed to move to middleweight to prove himself.
     
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    Well mm isn't a goat! He fights weak ass competition! He ducked a real opponent
     
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    Anderson has always been on PEDS. Cheater.
     
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    source?
     
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    Fedor turned down the UFC
    Conor turned down defending his title
     
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    you know it's not the same poster making a thread about every single fighter and that everyone is gonna have different opinions, right?
     
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    Because Jones & GSP were defending against legitimate & respected fighters. MM is not & when he gets the opportunity to do so with TJ he bottles it.

    He claims its because TJ couldn't make the weight but then schedules a fight with Borg who is notorious for missing weight.

    Also there is only a ten pound difference between their weight classes whilst there is a significantly higher jump between WW & MW or LHW & HW
     
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    Because there is a big question mark in the opponents he's beaten... None of them looked elite or dangerous, thats why for MM's case, fighting Dillashaw is so important to solidify his status as a worthy P4P fighter.
     
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    Not to mention MM isn't moving up, but TJ IS COMING DOWN to his weight class, so your argument is irrelevant.
     
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    Well simply if the weight difference at that point in Georges' career was not as obviously crippling as it is to him now when he went up to face Bisping, I think he would take it for definite. Anderson would just be wrestlefucked tbh.
     
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