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I agree, Conor is not close, and since GSP is the actual GOAT he is not close to it, he is it.Fun Fact: Neither GSP or Conor are close to being the GOAT.
I agree, Conor is not close, and since GSP is the actual GOAT he is not close to it, he is it.Fun Fact: Neither GSP or Conor are close to being the GOAT.
Realistically there are 3 people up for the title of GOAT, Anderson, Jones and GSP. Unless Vaseline is on the USADA banned substance list I'm going for GSP as GOAT.
*Awaits the Fedor nuthuggers*
So you admit it was not GSP who did anything .. but you will continue to disparage him over it, even though everyone agrees he literally had nothing to do with it.GSP barely skimmed past Penn in the first fight so for him to cheat in the second one (his corner cheated, not him, whatever) was pretty bad.
That is illegal, as well. What are you, on drugs, pal?It is illegal for a cutman to put vaseline anywhere but the face. It is not illegal for the fighter to take vaseline off their face and rub it on their body.
The fanciful cheating concoction is destroyed by the simple fact it would have been 100% legal for GSP to take vaseline off his face to rub it on his shoulders, chest, and back. There is literally no reason to hide it.
I like the post but don't agree with the GOAT stamp at the end. Good job breaking it down and my whole point is that, whether he knew it or not, he cheated. Penn was cheated and we didn't get to see two of the GOATs battle on a level playing field. You had both guys, in their primes, and GSP, Jackson or Nurse fuckked it up! If you are a GSP fan, it was great.... if you were a Penn fan, it was horrible... if you are a True Fight Fan... you were ROBBED.Oh look I already did the TLDR garbage post for ya lazy c*unts but I expect quite a few more anyway because it's just SO funny!!!
Anyway --
I think it's time for everybody to accept that basically every single fighter has cheated in some way, especially those who've been at the top for a long time and even more so for the ones we consider the GOAT's. Anderson and Jones have definitely taken PED's and there's been tons of accusations thrown at GSP for many years about steroids, HGH, etc, and 'grease-gate' like what this thread is about. All the greats have likely done something, including Fedor back in Pride as well as the other earlier promotions he fought in, and maybe even in Strikeforce.
It's not just the greats, though, the vast majority of fighters have most likely used some sort of PED at least once and possibly still are today. To hate some fighters for it is completely understandable, but we also need to realize that this is happening in basically every single sport out there. I believe American Football is quite possibly the dirtiest sport in the world, far worse than MMA and any other combat sport, honestly. I could be wrong, but that's just what I believe. If USADA was cracking down on Football like they are with the UFC, I guarantee that tons of big stars would be popped and many of you guys (those that watch Football) would look at the athletes very similarly to how they look at the fighters in the UFC that have been caught.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Georges has taken something throughout his career at all, but for some reason I just can't look at him like he's a cheater. He doesn't seem like the kind of person to do it based on his personality and such, but his body may tell a different story. It's best not to judge a book by it's cover and in this case it's best not to judge a fighter by the way their body looks no matter how suspicious it may seem. That may not come off as well as I'd like it to, but I'm sure you all know what I'm getting at when I say that. Georges must had known that Phil Nurse was rubbing vaseline on him during the fight, though, but.. what if he somehow didn't?
I know it's crazy to think that way, but hey, there was just a nice little conspiracy thread about Conor doing what he did at Bellator to 'duck' Tony and every other top guy, so literally anything can be said here and be believed, right? I mean, why not? anything goes at this point on here if people believe that trash about Conor, but most just twist the situation(s) surrounding him all the time in order to hate on him in some way. It's amazing how good people are at twisting the facts about everything here. MMA fans.. the worst of the worst.
As I was saying - In the GSP/Penn 2 fight, we saw the ring/cage officials (the guys assigned by the commission I believe) wipe Georges off with towels going into one or two rounds of the fight, so although he did get vaseline rubbed on him, the in-ring/cage officials or whatever you want to call them did wipe him down going into a few rounds from what I remember. Unfortunately, vaseline can't always just be wiped off that easily especially when mixed with sweat and Georges sweats A LOT. It all comes down to whether you believe Georges himself chose to have one of his cornermen put vaseline on him or that he (Phil Nurse) did it without Georges' knowledge (highly unlikely, Georges must had known..).
It doesn't matter, though. It really doesn't matter anymore because again, basically every single top guy has done something cheap, especially the all-time greats. It's just the way it is and unfortunately for those that don't want to accept it and would like to DQ Georges from the GOAT discussion because of this, he's easily still one of the GOAT's whether people like it or not. He never failed a test. He's been accused like almost everybody but he never failed a test and that's all there is to it. I see this same shit applied to others that many believe are on something, so the same will be applied with Georges.
He's actually one of the few (wasn't he the first?) that said he wanted USADA, right? I believe before the Hendricks fight he said he wanted USADA testing but Johny didn't because he wanted testing from some other place (was it WADA? I forget now, but USADA > everything). Then Georges left and a few years later the testing came in like he wanted and boom, just like that, everything changed for quite a few top guys with Hendricks being one of the most effected. Hmm.. I wonder why Johny didn't want USADA testing.. very strange, huh?
Until/if Georges is caught, he's the GOAT right now. That's just how it is, b'ys!
Lame thread made by a Conor fanboy who's only threatened by the real GOAT returning to action... is normal. Expect hundreds more shit threads just like this one in the days and weeks to come.
Let me tell you something you might already know, kid... the world ain't all sunshine and rainbows but if you win the championship by beating Mike Tyson in "Mike Tyson's Super Punch Out", the game ends. There ain't no defending... you don't defend... roll the credits, jam the cool nintendo music and move on. Let it go, kid.... just let it go.View attachment 300259
Forgey then!!
Forgey then Jesus!!!
They never knew the true GOATNESS of a real GOAT!
Cheated by a false idol! View attachment 300261
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WHO DOESNT DEFEND!!
HE!!
WHO SLAP JUDGES!!
HE!!!
WHO SPARS WITH BRITTLE OLD MAN FOR MONEY!!
They dont know!!
The dont know NOTHING!!!
LolLet me tell you something you might already know, kid... the world ain't all sunshine and rainbows but if you win the championship by beating Mike Tyson in "Mike Tyson's Super Punch Out", the game ends. There ain't no defending... you don't defend... roll the credits, jam the cool nintendo music and move on. Let it go, kid.... just let it go.
I "admit" he may have not known, however, that is a difficult one to believe because he wouldn't have charged recklessly into Penn's guard if he didn't think he was "protected". Either way, if he knew or didn't know... PENN WAS CHEATED. Don't know why you can't, at least, admit that.So you admit it was not GSP who did anything .. but you will continue to disparage him over it, even though everyone agrees he literally had nothing to do with it.
I like the post but don't agree with the GOAT stamp at the end. Good job breaking it down and my whole point is that, whether he knew it or not, he cheated. Penn was cheated and we didn't get to see two of the GOATs battle on a level playing field. You had both guys, in their primes, and GSP, Jackson or Nurse fuckked it up! If you are a GSP fan, it was great.... if you were a Penn fan, it was horrible... if you are a True Fight Fan... you were ROBBED.
uhhh hemmm.. its pronounced fairly squarly.I believe one should never quote Dana White unless it is to make fun of him. Even then, he states he didn't think it affected the outcome of the fight and quite frankly, neither did anyone except Penn. And we're not talking about the fact that GSP beat him fair and square before as well in a tough, tough fight.
Lol my apologies! I totally misunderstood. Yeah GSP smashed MattSerra? That was what you were talking about by adversity right? He fucked Serra hard
against BJ.
If he didn't think it affected the fight, why is he screaming about how illegal it is and asking that someone's license be pulled? Hell, if it has no effect, the crap wouldn't be illegal. As for quoting Dana, this is to show that both sides of the fence AGREE that greasing is bad. Saving face for the UFC, however, is why he would say it had no effect. However, they could have really built that up into a HUGE rematch and played on the "greasegate" narrative.
I "admit" he may have not known, however, that is a difficult one to believe because he wouldn't have charged recklessly into Penn's guard if he didn't think he was "protected". Either way, if he knew or didn't know... PENN WAS CHEATED. Don't know why you can't, at least, admit that.