GSP goat? Lol! Remember vaseline cheat?

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  1. PeterGriffin

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    Lame thread made by a Conor fanboy who's only threatened by the real GOAT returning to action... is normal. Expect hundreds more shit threads just like this one in the days and weeks to come.
     
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  2. Willek

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    Fun Fact: Neither GSP or Conor are close to being the GOAT.
     
  3. TrueFightFan

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    Are you so obsessed with McGregor that you associate everything you see and hear with him?
     
  4. BoxingMMA

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    Except it’s as official as the fact that it happened, also the fact that GSP didn’t know... so you are just believing what you want to believe.

    Also. GSP also beat him the first time
     
  5. AnotherOldGuy

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    True enough. In fact no one is. The GOAT is like a unicorn, a figment of people's imagination. People get stoned and think they see the GOAT, but when they point at what they think is the GOAT, though some people think they see it too, most people think they're delusional.
     
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    Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of Silva fans who always bring up that 1 incident which was Phil Nurse and not Georges doing the deed...Yet fail to mention the 4 times Silva took globs of it off his face and applied it to limbs and body so grapplers would not be able to take hold of him.

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  7. TrueFightFan

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    "Believing what you want to believe"? Let's break that down... I don't "believe" he cheated, HE DID CHEAT. The court determined that he CHEATED. The sticking point is this: Did he "knowingly" cheat? No one can prove that so it was decided that he ACCIDENTALLY CHEATED. Look, cheating is cheating and fair is fair but all of this could be washed under the bridge with a rematch, which he refused.

    There is no "believing" he cheated, there is just the fact that he cheated.
     
  8. tarumady

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    Serra? That was what you were talking about by adversity right? He fucked Serra hard
     
  9. TrueFightFan

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    Wait a minute.... Let GSP pull a Bisping and give Penn the first crack at the middleweight title. Ha, I don't think Penn could pull it off but a lot of people did not think GSP would, either. It could be a history making fight. Penn going for a title in a third class and GSP's chance to finally exorcise the demons of "Greasegate." Would we finally see a "motivated" Penn?
     
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    For everyone wondering about whether or not the greasing had any effect on the fight: http://m.sherdog.com/news/news/NSAC-Comments-on-Vaseline-Controversy-16028

    UFC president Dana White also thought it was a serious violation:

    "I saw the commission jump up there and flip out," said White. "They said one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on Georges' back in between rounds. It was one and two, I think. I personally didn't see it, the commission did. And that's about as illegal as you can get... I'm sure the commission is going to deal (with it)."

    White didn't believe that it affected the outcome of the fight but he re-stated that illegal is illegal:

    "You could have put Vaseline on from head to toe, that wasn't the point, the point was you don't do it. It's illegal. The guy who did it needs to be punished, it's not (St. Pierre's) fault. The question is what happens to a guy that does that. You've got to put the smack down on him. He should lose his license."
     
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  11. fightfan84

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    They both suck for doing it to be honest but I'm still a fan of each guy is that wrong? Lol. But I do agree Silva tends to take less heat or it atleast doesn't get mentioned nearly as much as gspgate. Only time I see Silva get mentioned about it is in gsp grease the.
     
  12. ThunderStruck

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    Fun fact : You're an idiot.
     
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  13. ThunderStruck

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    No the rule didnt determine that he cheated. All they did is clarify the rule so mistakes like these didn't happen. According to the rule at the time, he didn't cheat.
     
  14. BoxingMMA

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    I believe one should never quote Dana White unless it is to make fun of him. Even then, he states he didn't think it affected the outcome of the fight and quite frankly, neither did anyone except Penn. And we're not talking about the fact that GSP beat him fair and square before as well in a tough, tough fight.
     
  15. TrueFightFan

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    I don't think Silva gets mentioned as much because his transgression was against the most outspoken steroid cheat in UFC history. GSP's bout was against a much smaller fighter but it was for a piece of history. GSP barely skimmed past Penn in the first fight so for him to cheat in the second one (his corner cheated, not him, whatever) was pretty bad.
     
  16. TrueFightFan

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    I don't know what to do with guys like you. You are really out there. I even provided source links for you. Do your own research, the next time so that you can jam your head in the sand on your own time. I like how you called them "mistakes".
     
  17. TrueFightFan

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    If he didn't think it affected the fight, why is he screaming about how illegal it is and asking that someone's license be pulled? Hell, if it has no effect, the crap wouldn't be illegal. As for quoting Dana, this is to show that both sides of the fence AGREE that greasing is bad. Saving face for the UFC, however, is why he would say it had no effect. However, they could have really built that up into a HUGE rematch and played on the "greasegate" narrative.
     
  18. AnGrYcRoW

    AnGrYcRoW I've done .... questionable things .

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    Fun fact : that's opinion held by no one who knows what they are talking about
     
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  19. UJustGotChaeld

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    I remember GSP doing nothing, and his takedown control heavy gameplan making vaseline super stupid. I also remember BJ fans clinging to any stupid thing they could. I also remember it would be perfectly legal had GSP taken vaseline off his face and rubbed it on his body.
     
  20. UJustGotChaeld

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    It is illegal for a cutman to put vaseline anywhere but the face. It is not illegal for the fighter to take vaseline off their face and rub it on their body.

    The fanciful cheating concoction is destroyed by the simple fact it would have been 100% legal for GSP to take vaseline off his face to rub it on his shoulders, chest, and back. There is literally no reason to hide it.
     

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