Zombie apocalypse, what you choosing

[Halifax]

AFAIK, experts in HEMA who fight each other with edged weapons and polearms overwhelmingly cite the superiority of the spear over the sword or axes, FWIW

*although* as long as I have a sharp blade and access to long pieces of wood, I can DIY a spear, so feels superfluous?

if was gonna have an axe it wouldn't be that double-headed monstrosity which compounds and basically doubles the axe's biggest problem, the amount of time to retract after a strike, seriously, fuck that axe, absolute piece of shit.

i like the renewability of the crossbow projectiles.

i think I'mma go with the glock *and* the crossbow for when the glock runs out- i don't want to be fighting at close enough range for a sword/etc to be relevant, if that's happening likely I'm fucked, I'll put all my eggs in the fight at distance basket.

and assume i have a knife to fashion a spear as a backup as I do like to hedge my bets

The spear is far superior if in the open. Sucks balls in close quarters though.

 

[Cole train]

Boxing gloves then lace them in barbed wire from bat

 

[Halifax]

AFAIK, experts in HEMA who fight each other with edged weapons and polearms overwhelmingly cite the superiority of the spear over the sword or axes, FWIW

Also, depends on the spear and terrain. Longer spears/2 handed pikes absolutely suck outside of a formation lol
A sword's mobility in a forest will harm the spear wielder's chances, as will Spear vs one handed sword and shield. There really are a million variations.

By the 1st Cent BC, when Romans were at their peak in expansion and also regularly fighting one another in civil wars, they shitcanned the spear armed legionary in favor of big shield/Gladius.
Choosing the sword over the spear when spears are significantly cheaper to produce and easier to train with tells me that the practical Romans found a distinct advantage in using swords with the since they were willing to pay the greater cost of sword production and invest in the additional needed drilling. If the choice of weapon is comparatively less important than the quality of training and discipline of the troops, I'm confused as to why one would opt for a more expensive and difficult to use weapon. It all changed over and over and they were highly adaptable, between the manipular armies switching to cohorts

Im really overthinking it now lol

but stab slow zombie through eye with spear sounds more appealing than closing the distance

 

[Pizza Werewolf]

Squirrels??

As ammo?
I'm down to see how this plays out.

 

[Brother Numsi]

I guess a spear and Glock

Obviously, you will run out of ammo at some point but you need a piece not just for zombies but for punk ass humans trying to start shit.

Crossbow would be solid because you can make ammo and they are quiet. Main reason Daryl Dixon was such a bad ass.

A sword would be a good option (machete would be better) but unless I can hold it with one hand and a shield I’ll pass.

With the spear and Glock I won’t let them get close like Chael Sonnen

 

[Streeter]

Katana and the crossbow.. the Long sword I or Axe would be better but it's to heavy the Katana is better due to being light. The gun is grest but it attacts others n bullets run out.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Are we talking slow zombies or fast zombies?

If they're fast zombies the weapon choice would just be delaying the inevitable.


By the way, everyone, the glock would be the absolute worst choice. The shots can be heard from a mile away and attract dozens, or more, zombies from all directions. You'd eventually run out of ammo. Head shots would be required and its very tough to aim accurately when your heart rate is 150+ BPM.

Same as the crossbow or arrows - at least they're silent, but don't count on carrying dozens of bolts around or getting them all back unless there's so few zombies you can kill them all.

 

[jeff7b9]

The cool thing about choosing the glock is that it comes with an endless supply of free weapons from all the idiots that didn't choose the gun.

I just want to say thanks for all the spears and swords and crossbows, and your food and your vehicles and house but most of all for your women. We are all gonna have a lovely apocalypse and really it is thanks in big part to whatever you no gun dopes collected for us.


And don't yall worry ... me and my gun are gonna take good care of the women.

 

[IanEdwards]

Also, depends on the spear and terrain. Longer spears/2 handed pikes absolutely suck outside of a formation lol
A sword's mobility in a forest will harm the spear wielder's chances, as will Spear vs one handed sword and shield. There really are a million variations.

By the 1st Cent BC, when Romans were at their peak in expansion and also regularly fighting one another in civil wars, they shitcanned the spear armed legionary in favor of big shield/Gladius.

they only chose the gladius in combination with the scutum, though

without a shield as well the HEMA guys again go for spear > sword, FWIW.

 

[HenryFlower]

i want a guandao or glaive + a katana (tactical wakizashi) for secondary

 

[IanEdwards]

As ammo?
I'm down to see how this plays out.

Ok, so if you can get a squirrel in its death-rictus pose, mouth open in an expression of last-moments desperation where the teeth are exposed, you know like rats do if you catch them in a trap?

well if it freezes in that rictus pose with its teeth bared in that horrific death-grin, either once rigour mortis sets in or if you live in a cold climate you could literally freeze it solid.....

then, you can hold that bitch by its feet and attack the throat of your enemies with its exposed teeth using the rigour-frozen squirrel as an ad-hoc axe and the teeth as the sharp edge.

I have to stress that is only possible if the thing is frozen absolutely solid, any kind of articulated movement of the body will make it a very unwieldy weapon

or, if you have someone unconscious, in sleep, or otherwise immobilised (hands tied behind back maybe) , shove the squirrel's front feet up the nostrils, the remainder stuffed in the mouth, and suffocate them with that bitch.

 

[blaseblase]

I'll take the battle axe. Is more durable and does more damage than a sword.

 

[blaseblase]

Also for the people saying crossbow for stealth, they are not that quiet in real life. It'd be better to have a bow for stealth.

 

[IanEdwards]

bro that two bladed battleaxe

 

[IanEdwards]

nobody in history ever actually used double-bladed axes

that should tell you all something.

this is the sherhill i have chosen to die on. not whether or not Mighty Mouse or JBJ is the GOAT. Not some WR shit. fantasy axes that nobody ever used in real life, I'm drawing the fucking line, right here sherbro, cross it and we have a problem.

 

[Halifax]

they only chose the gladius in combination with the scutum, though

without a shield as well the HEMA guys again go for spear > sword, FWIW.

Oh yes. That's why I said sword and shield changes the Game. 2 hands required for spear vs 1 hand for sword makes that an option. The added mobility in the semnite wars made that an option on the terrain and it was a big advantage to the swordsmen

 

[Halifax]

If they're fast zombies the weapon choice would just be delaying the inevitable.


By the way, everyone, the glock would be the absolute worst choice. The shots can be heard from a mile away and attract dozens, or more, zombies from all directions. You'd eventually run out of ammo. Head shots would be required and its very tough to aim accurately when your heart rate is 150+ BPM.

Same as the crossbow or arrows - at least they're silent, but don't count on carrying dozens of bolts around or getting them all back unless there's so few zombies you can kill them all.

Yeah crossbow becomes an option if you are in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with small population and need to quietly dispatch a few at a time.

 

[IanEdwards]

Oh yes. That's why I said sword and shield changes the Game

cool story. Scutum isn't an option in the OP and even if it was, scutum + longsword is a shitty combination. Which = spear FTW

 

[Phlog]

AFAIK, experts in HEMA who fight each other with edged weapons and polearms overwhelmingly cite the superiority of the spear over the sword or axes, FWIW

*although* as long as I have a sharp blade and access to long pieces of wood, I can DIY a spear, so feels superfluous?

and assume i have a knife to fashion a spear as a backup as I do like to hedge my bets

I ain't an expert but I have probably about 6yrs of HEMA study. Yes, spear beats most everything, the only downside is that there is the possibility that zombies are slightly more resistant to puncture wounds than slashing weapon wounds. I think there's more chance of a spear to the head glancing off the skull than the longsword or axe to head/neck area. But I don't think it's much different. The other thing is that one can take a leg off with a slashing weapon and slow the zombie but spearing the leg may do nothing but trap your spear.

I agree that a spear is easily manufactured though so I'd not pick it for that reason alone.

The cool thing about choosing the glock is that it comes with an endless supply of free weapons from all the idiots that didn't choose the gun.

I just want to say thanks for all the spears and swords and crossbows, and your food and your vehicles and house but most of all for your women. We are all gonna have a lovely apocalypse and really it is thanks in big part to whatever you no gun dopes collected for us.


And don't yall worry ... me and my gun are gonna take good care of the women.

My second go with my new crossbow I hit a grouping of 6 inches with 6 bolts at 75yrds. I don't think a Glock will do anything like that. So I'll have your Glock thanks

Also for the people saying crossbow for stealth, they are not that quiet in real life. It'd be better to have a bow for stealth.

There's not a huge difference in sound between them maybe 80 decibels for the bow, 84 for the crossbow. The benefit of the crossbow is that you'll hit a target at three times the distance with 1/100 of the training time. Also the crossbow is able to be much more powerful, and one doesn't have to be a physical specimen trained in its use to load it. I have a 180lb draw compound crossbow shooting over 400fps but only a 60lb compound bow. I could use a bigger bow but I don't shoot often enough to make it worth it as I'd have to be shooting regularly to be strong enough to use it.

Another benefit of the Xbow is that you can cock it before an ambush whereas with the bow you have to draw just before release, especially if heavy, and the drawing makes a noise tho quiet. And of course compound bows make it much easier to hold at full draw.

But yeah they ain't quiet, just a lot more quiet than a gun, which is over double as loud, 160db approx.

 

[jeff7b9]

My second go with my new crossbow I hit a grouping of 6 inches with 6 bolts at 75yrds. I don't think a Glock will do anything like that. So I'll have your Glock thanks

You won't be the first person I meet.

I live among rich cowards. I would run this town and everything in it in short order.

I'll have an arsenal and an army by the time we cross paths.

We can discuss whether your crossbow skills warrant employment.

But cool as fuck that you can hit tight groups like that. You are correct I couldn't hit that group with a glock.