International Zelensky Rejects Trump's Idiotic "Minerals Deal" - Might Tell The US to go F*ck Itself

[Crazy Source]

Daddy like. If true, I'm curious to see if/how much this sours Putin towards Trump. I would love to see the US stand up to Russia (again).

I'm definitely taking a wait and see approach to anything at this point. Extremely cautiously optimistic.

 

[curryjunkie]

Daddy like. If true, I'm curious to see if/how much this sours Putin towards Trump. I would love to see the US stand up to Russia (again).

its only tuesday, the cunt could renege on it by the end of the week, im guessing its nowhere near what he originally asked for, but if it sticks, it seems like the blowback he got from everyone has made him flip. maybe macron blew smoke up his ass telling him he would go down in history as the one who made peace , early days yet though, lets see what the russians do now. their economy is held together with duct tape, if the US stays on board and putin sees the EU aint backing down , maybe he will realise its time to negotiate for real. i heard a podcast with some high level us diplomats who described russian negotiating style, they said the russians make outrageous demands throughout and its a very slow process getting them to a realistic solution, they hate to lose face.

 

[Cajun]

jesus christ, wut?

Reading his post along with your response made me laugh a ton.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Reading his post along with your response made me laugh a ton.

I seriously want to have a drinking sesh with him.

 

[SandisLL]

Zelonka if will not be dumb idiot really today might tell Trump that Ukraine will cede to U.S Luansk oblastj. Why not, nice 6 coal mining companies, cool other stuff etc.

Or maybe declare war vs U.S. Why not? It is really pragmatic choice because then Trump will order to install occupation forces in Kiev.

Not like senile Chamberlain, Winston and old senile fossil FDL degenerate peace of shit. All these appeared that were idiots.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Trump "winning" by being scummy is indeed better than Putin winning. I'm guessing Kyiv agreed to this (once non-anonymous sources verify it) because Putin (pretty smartly) "counter-offered" Kyiv by offering Trump access to mineral mines in the taken (Ukrainian) lands.

But exploiting the country that is doing your dirty work (taking on Russian expansion) is definitely scummy. . . .classic Trumpian "Good Business" I guess.

Realpolitik. Everyone does it, but it's never a nice thing to watch.

 

[Patrick Jane]

No I just wanted to point out that it isn't a strategy at all. It's off the table, unless ukr army was at the gates of Kremlin, which will never happen.

According to leaked documents, nuclear weapons use doesn't seem to be off the table at all for Russia.

https://kyivindependent.com/ft-leaked-files-russia-criteria-nuclear-strike/

 

[curryjunkie]

This deal just gave Ukraine the victory it so desperately needed. You war mongers should be happy.

LOL!

 

[Fanu]

Russia is a 3rd world country and its leadership should be ignored.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

By backing do you mean the loans?

I guess you didn't watch Macron correcting this claim made by Trump.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

You sound like a soy-laden left wing cuck TDS sufferer

I'm a moderate Republican but you can claim that in order to justify your loyalty to a wannabe Authoritarian.

 

[Badr Hari]

The right wing needs to make villains out of these comically innocent guys like Fauci and Zelenskyy, one of whom is a doctor/scientist who spent decades resolving various public health crises, and one of whom is an elected president defending his country from a much bigger invading force

Why they hate him I don't get it, Zelensky is right wing himself, with a sense of humor and learnt english while stopping the russian army on its tracks... a person with some level of integrity obviously but clearly pro-american and a hard worker... from what i've read even some russians acknowledge the work he has done... the other part of course generally describe him as the drug man from Kyiv, 70% of them are for reasons I don't understand convinced Zelensky takes cocaine nonstop lmao

 

[KeepingItReal]

Pump and U S are cretines not lesser than huelensky.

According to Pentagon delivered aid was something between 60 and 70 b $.
Ofc American shit will lie 24/365 like russian shit.
U.S are weak, living in fear from China and Russia, really weak country. Fear.
XI is happy to see reality.

Brother, take it easy and lay off the Marijuana.

 

[SandisLL]

Brother, take it easy and lay off the Marijuana.

I don't smoke. Nothing btw.

 

[Snubnoze707]

And it doesn't seem like their sacrifices have been in vain if you think Putin has limited leverage

Are you stupid? You made the claim that Putin was going to demand more regions he wasn't in control of. I said he would have no leverage to do that. He absolutely has leverage for the regions that he DOES control. His leverage isn't limited, Zelensky's is.

 

[syct23]

I don't smoke. Nothing btw.

Don’t worry,

I’ll smoke it for you.. just keep the vodka poring!

*clinks glass

 

[Badr Hari]

According to leaked documents, nuclear weapons use doesn't seem to be off the table at all for Russia.

https://kyivindependent.com/ft-leaked-files-russia-criteria-nuclear-strike/

This is simple barking. It's off the table not because they decided to put it off the table, but because of the response they would get. It's their shortest most guaranteed way to loss. And see the date of the article. February 28th 2024. Very telling. They had intel that Ukr is planning an incursion in their territory and started the barking campaign. 5 months later Ukr did the incursion and they didn't do shit other than call on north koreans and kadyrov... not because they want to be human and nice to Ukr people, but because they don't have a benefit from using it, or to put it better the damage far out weighs the momental benefit. I am too tired tonight to find a video of Prigozhin telling you when is Rus going to use nuclear weapons and it's sort of funny, will help you release some of the nuclear anxiety.

 

[Snubnoze707]

If you actually cared about conscripts you would be demanding that Russia cease their invasion. But you don’t actually care so you say this retarded shit like “Ukraine should stop defending itself and you’re a warmonger if you think they should”.

This is serious brain rot if you arrive to this conclusion.

I bring up Ukrainians being conscripts because I'm debating someone in favor of sending them in to go die you imbecile.

Retarded shit is saying Ukrainians should continue to lose their lives while making zero gains over a region that was literally trying to BREAK AWAY FROM UKRAINE rather than work out a peace deal. Continuing war does make you a warmonger. YES, Putin is a WARMONGER TOO. That doesn't change the reality of what options are available to resolve this.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Trump is leading us into isolationism.

AWESOME.

That is a great change from NeoConservatism/NeoLiberalism.

 

[SandisLL]

Are you stupid? You made the claim that Putin was going to demand more regions he wasn't in control of. I said he would have no leverage to do that. He absolutely has leverage for the regions that he DOES control. His leverage isn't limited, Zelensky's is.

If Calin will win pres elections in Romania Putin will demand Odessa oblastj ...you will see. Also please don't be too cocky here, I do know european geopolitics more than abdirstantowich and Co.
I had proved this here during years. So for you solution maybe will he to press report button again. Stuff I never had did against you here. Taste reality.