"YOU F****** DID QUINTON!!!" - White guy in rampage's corner after Arona fight

[anuscakes]

Probably because people dont generally get knocked out by slams it has only happened a handfull of times in major orgs that russian guy last week, shamrock and ortiz have kos from slams but not too many do. On the same card fedor took a much more dangerous ride and won seconds later generally fighters recover.

From the arona footage his arms go limp the second the headbutt lands not a fraction before, it is very hard to tell if he is ok his head would bolt forward from the momentum either way. I think he deserves the win the same way sakara vs cote, hendo vs fedor or wand vs mezger deserve wins they all threw some illegal shots at crucial times but would have been in control either way.

That's really stupid. He landed perfectly on the back of his head. Fedor actually landed more on his neck shoulder area.

 

[cluegoo**]

They both hit each other at the same point in the head. If it had enough momentum to knock out Arona it had just as much to knock out Rampage. It wasn't the headbutt.

You forget aronas head just bounced off the floor from the bottom to collide with a much faster head coming down on it. Heads are not the same size and do not have equal tolerances either. You dont have to be a physicist to work out this is not equal.

 

[Thrawn33]

No kidding lol, I thought he broke his neck when I first saw that

I literally screamed "Holy Fucking Shit!" at the TV when I saw it for the first time.

 

[anuscakes]

You forget aronas head just bounced off the floor from the bottom to collide with a much faster head coming down on it. Heads are not the same size and do not have equal tolerances either. You dont have to be a physicist to work out this is not equal.

First off that's completely wrong. Second Rampage's head hit at the same spot with the exact amount of force it has the exact same chance to knock both men out.

 

[cluegoo**]

That's really stupid. He landed perfectly on the back of his head. Fedor actually landed more on his neck shoulder area.

It is on page 1 arona landed right shoulder first but had pretty good contact with his back, shoulders and head from the initial hit, the impact was fairly spread out which is what you want to happen as someone on the receiving end. Fedor got spiked on his neck basically which should have done much more damage. As I said though everyone reacts differenly.

Aronas arms went limp the second the headbutt landed, without the headbutt landing he was in a terrible position or knocked out they are pretty much the facts.

 

[spaghettisauce]

Probably because people dont generally get knocked out by slams it has only happened a handfull of times in major orgs that russian guy last week, shamrock and ortiz have kos from slams but not too many do. On the same card fedor took a much more dangerous ride and won seconds later generally fighters recover.

you've got to be kidding me. The back of Arona's head hit the matt probably harder than anyone we've ever seen in MMA. Fedor got spiked and was in much greater risk of having his neck snapped, but the back of his head did not take nearly as hard of a hit

we've seen people get KOed by slams not even half as hard as Rampage's slam. I dare you to find a comparable slam that didn't KO the person

From the arona footage his arms go limp the second the headbutt lands not a fraction before

that's 100% bullshit. you can see Arona's grip go loose before the headbutt

 

[jstnslby]

arona upkicked rampage from his back earlier in the fight causing the cut. Then arona persists rampage is out because the kick was vicious. he then
got ktfo. Not from a headbutt....a fucking power bomb. Arona was also tensed up trying to hold onto that triangle which would increase the damage tenfold vs being loose like fedora.

 

[spaghettisauce]

It is on page 1 arona landed right shoulder first but had pretty good contact with his back, shoulders and head from the initial hit, the impact was fairly spread out which is what you want to happen as someone on the receiving end. Fedor got spiked on his neck basically which should have done much more damage. As I said though everyone reacts differenly.

what the hell are you talking about. Despite the arm posting, Arona's head hits the mat INCREDIBLY hard. You only have to look at the whiplash

The back of Fedor's head did not hit the matt nearly as hard. It may have had more potential to injure his neck/spine, but that's not at all the same.

Aronas arms went limp the second the headbutt landed

nope, he let go of his grip before the headbutt

 

[Valor]

Arona was actually doing really well before the slam.

The funny/crazy thing is that both the Randleplex and Arona bomb happened on the same night. You can't bring up one without discussing the other. Hell, Rampage was commentating for Randleman-Fedor.

 

[cluegoo**]

First off that's completely wrong. Second Rampage's head hit at the same spot with the exact amount of force it has the exact same chance to knock both men out.

So everyone has an equal tolerance to getting hit? If mark hunt and brendan schaub headbutt each other increasingly harder untill one gets knocked out they will both fall at the same time?

You also see no difference between being the head bouncing off a mat and the one rocketing down from above?

I can accept people thinking he knocked him out pre headbutt I personally think he may have, but your statements are incredibly stupid, sorry.

 

[trane]

One of the biggest moment of his carrer? Of course it is, he has only two big moments in his career (with the first fight against Liddell), lol. Rampage is very overrated, and please don't bring the Henderson and Machida fights.

What do you mean don't bring up the Henderson fight? And sorry your karate hero was running scared for two rounds.

 

[spaghettisauce]

So everyone has an equal tolerance to getting hit? If mark hunt and brendan schaub headbutt each other increasingly harder untill one gets knocked out they will both fall at the same time?

very fair point. too bad Arona himself claimed to have gotten severely dazed when he screwed up a take down against Shogun and hit the back of his head on the matt. In fact, he said it dazed him so much that it cost him the fight

And his head did not hit the matt nearly as hard as when Rampage dumped him

So please explain how a mere fall could severely daze Arona, and yet a monstrous slam that caused his head to bounce off the matt like a basketball wouldn't KO him

 

[PAPERCLIP30]

The slam makes up for rampage getting ko'd from the upkick.

 

[spaghettisauce]

The slam makes up for rampage getting ko'd from the upkick.

quinton was not KOed from the upkick. you can see he was maintaining a grip the entire time he was recouperating. a KOed person is not usually capable of maintaining a grip on his opponent

do you people seriously believe all of Arona's excuses? the guy could make any other brazilian blush

 

[cluegoo**]

what the hell are you talking about. Despite the arm posting, Arona's head hits the mat INCREDIBLY hard. You only have to look at the whiplash

The back of Fedor's head did not hit the matt nearly as hard. It may have had more potential to injure his neck/spine, but that's not at all the same.

nope, he let go of his grip before the headbutt

You can let go of grip conscious in fact you are much better off not holding on when a slam is inevitable. Arms going limp are a great sign of being knocked out, aronas are the second the headbutt lands, of course there would be a small amount of time between incidents but as I said you cant really say for sure. I think there are a lot of wwe fans desperate for a powerbomb knockout in mma, sorry but it is pretty inconclusive.

 

[spaghettisauce]

You can let go of grip conscious in fact you are much better off not holding on when a slam is inevitable.

oh ok so Arona just decided to let go of the hold after he was slammed, despite him still being conscious. yeah that makes sense

Arona was intent on holding onto the choke even when he was hoisted up in the air and knew the slam was inevitable. He let go of the grip immediately after the slam because HE HAD NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER

Oh and also his legs go completely loose immediately after his head hits the matt. his body is clearly flailing

 

[cluegoo**]

very fair point. too bad Arona himself claimed to have gotten severely dazed when he screwed up a take down against Shogun and hit the back of his head on the matt. In fact, he said it dazed him so much that it cost him the fight

And his head did not hit the matt nearly as hard as when Rampage dumped him

So please explain how a mere fall could severely daze Arona, and yet a monstrous slam that caused his head to bounce off the matt like a basketball wouldn't KO him

Because every situation is different, hunt in his career took harder shots than the one that ko'd him by melvin but he was jumping into it and it had a different effect. You cant see something on tv and claim that was a harder shot to take than another there are hundreds of factors at play. If you land the right way you will be ok from a slam even if you dont you probably wont be knocked out hence the extremely low amount of finishes by that method in top level mma. It was an extremely powerful hit and may well have finished him on its own but there isnt evidence there for sure to say it did.

 

[spaghettisauce]

Because every situation is different

what a copout

hunt in his career took harder shots than the one that ko'd him by melvin but he was jumping into it and it had a different effect.

completely different. a) Hunt's chin is deteriorated compared to his heyday, b) even a relatively light punch can KO you if you don't see it coming

You cant see something on tv and claim that was a harder shot to take than another there are hundreds of factors at play.

this is a pretty simple one to judge. you can see how hard Quinton slammed him, you can see how hard the back of his head hit the matt. it fucking bounced like a basketball

please explain to me how arona's fall could've hit his head harder than quinton's slam. i'm dying to hear this

If you land the right way you will be ok from a slam even if you dont you probably wont be knocked out

Guess what? having the back of your head whiplash super hard into the matt is not the right way to land, genius

hence the extremely low amount of finishes by that method in top level mma.

you've yet to bring up a comparable slam that didn't finish the victim

 

[cluegoo**]

oh ok so Arona just decided to let go of the hold after he was slammed, despite him still being conscious. yeah that makes sense

Arona was intent on holding onto the choke even when he was hoisted up in the air and knew the slam was inevitable. He let go of the grip immediately after the slam because HE HAD NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER

Oh and also his legs go completely loose immediately after his head hits the matt. his body is clearly flailing

Ha funny take on it, his grip was loosened when he went on the ride, being thrown around at that speed will disrupt you somewhat. His legs were functional unlike his arms after the headbutt, you cant deny the point of him being visibly limp was right after the headbutt surely? You guys are funny, nobody can be sure what put him out there is far too little time between the incidents and no physical sign of being knocked out in that half a second before the headbutt.

 

[cluegoo**]

what a copout
completely different. a) Hunt's chin is deteriorated compared to his heyday, b) even a relatively light punch can KO you if you don't see it coming

this is a pretty simple one to judge. you can see how hard Quinton slammed him, you can see how hard the back of his head hit the matt. it fucking bounced like a basketball

please explain to me how arona's fall could've hit his head harder than quinton's slam. i'm dying to hear this

Guess what? having the back of your head whiplash super hard into the matt is not the right way to land, genius
you've yet to bring up a comparable slam that didn't finish the victim

All your arguments are based on how hard it looks to you on tv, go watch wwe the slams there look much harder but they dont get knocked out, tell me why they dont finish the victim? You cant judge how hard a shot is or how much damage it should do by watching tv, your arguments are childish and absurd. Again watch the clip he didn't land on his head (and again ignore the limp arms after the headbutt by the way) the whiplash was a result of the force of the hit he took, watch nogs head bounce off the mat vs fedor was he ko'd? It means nothing.