Social WR Lounge v270 Hesitation Kills

[Unknown Pleasures]

Poll needs George Costanza.

 

[CubicleGangster]

I wish we could have seen more of Keema going full McNulty at the end.

I'm on Season 3 of my re-watch which is when she really starts to follow the path of McNulty

 

[Gregolian]

I wish we could have seen more of Keema going full McNulty at the end.

I do like how she got paired with Bunk though. That was the one feel good moment from that final montage while McNulty is parked on the side of the freeway.



Everything else about it is sad other than maybe Lester living a happy post police force life and Bubbles.

- Dookie is the new Bubbles
- Michael is the new Omar
- There's new folks taking over Marlo's old corners
- The corners that had characters like Bodie are now vacant as Bodie and his guys are all dead or out of the game

 

[essie]

literally me

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Omar Little is based on a real person that Simon and Burns knew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_Andrews

That's what makes Omar so great is that someone like that actually existed.

And there's the scene where he completely bushwhacks the drug attorney:


"Same as you right?"
"EXCUSE ME?!"
"I have the shotgun, you have the briefcase.... but it's all in the game though right?"


Randy is one of the better characters in the show that got a completely raw deal.

Perhaps he's to The Wire what Frank Dux was to Bloodsport.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Damn, RIP

 

[Gregolian]

Perhaps he's to The Wire what Frank Six was to Bloodsport.

Considering he actually spent time in Prison and was known to Burns who was a Baltimore homicide detective.... I'd wager a decent amount of what he said he did he did.

This scene is rough:


Randy wanted to do the right thing then a mistake on the cops end gets his foster mother's apartment firebombed and ends with him in a group home getting his ass kicked day in and day out to the point he's unwilling to help Bunk when Bunk finally catches up to him.



The actress that played Snoop literally lived the life.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Anung Un Rama]

poll is meh, you're better than that @Sara

 

[Anung Un Rama]

RIP Paul Mooney

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Considering he actually spent time in Prison and was known to Burns who was a Baltimore homicide detective.... I'd wager a decent amount of what he said he did he did.

This scene is rough:


Randy wanted to do the right thing then a mistake on the cops end gets his foster mother's apartment firebombed and ends with him in a group home getting his ass kicked day in and day out to the point he's unwilling to help Bunk when Bunk finally catches up to him.



The actress that played Snoop literally lived the life.

Sadder ending, Randy or Dookie?

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Other;

 

[essie]

Sadder ending, Randy or Dookie?

Dookie not close and he was my favorite.

 

[Trotsky]

I think it's a little deeper than that, though this is part of the story. Goes to my point about there being multiple factions. For example, I don't think it's widely appreciated, but people who opposed Clinton's nomination because they thought she was too far to the left were a big part of Bernie's support in 2016. They get completely written out of the discussion when it's portrayed as the left vs. moderates. So you did see a lot of hardcore sexism against Clinton, and then when it's pointed out, you get a lot of leftists (who are also leftists on social issues) assuming and then claiming bad faith. And around it goes. A general habit of a portion of the left (particularly people who identify with hatred of elected leadership of the Democratic Party) is hysterical accusations of bad faith.

I'm not sure that your description of the vote is necessarily reflective of the participants in political discourse. That is, I don't think disaffected moderates that went to Bernie were all that engaged in the primary process. The group that was engaged was disproportionately left and disproportionately young.

Separately, I didn't think the allegation was very explosive. It was leaked that Bernie told her her gender was a fatal liability in the race, which Bernie denied and then she confirmed. That it's a disadvantage is a pretty widely held (and likely accurate, IMO) view. That it's an insurmountable one is clearly false, but also might be somewhat widely held, and the difference seems to be exactly the kind of thing that happens when you have two different people's memory of a private conversation.

I don't want to get too deeply into this because I would have to reacquaint myself with the reports. But my recollection is that even Warren's own staffers sided with Sanders' version of the events, that no one confirmed Warren's version, and that Sanders' version was the only one that was remotely consistent with his past actions (namely, urging Warren to run in the previous cycle). Yet Warren confirmed on the stage (iirc) her claim that Sanders flat out said "a woman can't win."

I kind of expected to drift toward your position (that it wasn't a big deal) over time. But, more than a year later, it still strikes me as a particularly toxic and unseemly thing: to purposefully leak a report like that, which has no bearing on policy but rather is specifically aimed at an opponent's character, in a pivotal point in a race and to then more or less refuse to engage the topic and instead feign indignation.

Omar is actually one of the least interesting characters in the Wire

Damn. We disagree greatly here as well.

Omar is an iconic character to me. He was pretty unprecedented as a character. Gay, black, functionally illiterate, a violent criminal, and yet exceptionally moral and revered by all. Probably the first gay character in a major drama to become a fan favorite of straight white men.

Can't think of any other characters I was really interested in. Frank Sobota obviously. A couple of the kid actors, Wee Bey's son and the kid who looked like Lil Bow Wow.

Yes Chapo Trap House, thank you. I don't know what being woke really means, it seems like a defense mechanism by the right to combat legitimate claims of bigotry but I just know those guys suck.

I'm not meaning it as a pejorative. I think there needs to be a term to describe the phenomenon of culturally updated standards of discourse, especially when language varies so much by class. And I think there has been a process of partial reclamation and de-stigmatization of "woke" by the left. Anyways, what I meant was that I would expect that CTH would be more sensitive to sexism and problematic language (using "undocumented" rather than "illegal" immigrant, using "transgender" rather than "transgendered" or "transsexual," etc.).

However, as an aside, I do think that scorning about language (or what Michael Brooks called "woke-scolding") can be problematic, particularly when it is done across class. Having been a working class person in upper class contexts, I can attest to it being very humiliating at times.

 

[CubicleGangster]

Sadder ending, Randy or Dookie?

Dookie, imo. Was a brilliant kid with potential who never had a chance and ends up a homeless heroin addict.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[irish_thug]

RIP Paul Mooney

For real?

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I'm not sure that your description of the vote is necessarily reflective of the participants in political discourse. That is, I don't think disaffected moderates that went to Bernie were all that engaged in the primary process. The group that was engaged was disproportionately left and disproportionately young.



I don't want to get too deeply into this because I would have to reacquaint myself with the reports. But my recollection is that even Warren's own staffers sided with Sanders' version of the events, that no one confirmed Warren's version, and that Sanders' version was the only one that was remotely consistent with his past actions (namely, urging Warren to run in the previous cycle). Yet Warren confirmed on the stage (iirc) her claim that Sanders flat out said "a woman can't win."

I kind of expected to drift toward your position (that it wasn't a big deal) over time. But, more than a year later, it still strikes me as a particularly toxic and unseemly thing: to purposefully leak a report like that, which has no bearing on policy but rather is specifically aimed at an opponent's character, in a pivotal point in a race and to then more or less refuse to engage the topic and instead feign indignation.



Damn. We disagree greatly here as well.

Omar is an iconic character to me. He was pretty unprecedented as a character. Gay, black, functionally illiterate, a violent criminal, and yet exceptionally moral and revered by all. Probably the first gay character in a major drama to become a fan favorite of straight white men.

Can't think of any other characters I was really interested in. Frank Sobota obviously. A couple of the kid actors, Wee Bey's son and the kid who looked like Lil Bow Wow.



I'm not meaning it as a pejorative. I think there needs to be a term to describe the phenomenon of culturally updated standards of discourse, especially when language varies so much by class. And I think there has been a process of partial reclamation and de-stigmatization of "woke" by the left. Anyways, what I meant was that I would expect that CTH would be more sensitive to sexism and problematic language (using "undocumented" rather than "illegal" immigrant, using "transgender" rather than "transgendered" or "transsexual," etc.).

However, as an aside, I do think that scorning about language (or what Michael Brooks called "woke-scolding") can be problematic, particularly when it is done across class. Having been a working class person in upper class contexts, I can attest to it being very humiliating at times.

The precursor to Omar (badass gay dude) was Willem Defoe's character in Boondock Saints

 

[Sara]

You are clearly very sexist against women. You should feel deep shame imo.

I think you may have a learning disability.

 

[Sara]

Given the options, went with Tyrion. But he wasn't even my favorite character.

I was surprised by the list as it was voted for by the fans....like Buffybisnt even the best character on her own show.